Treating Firearms Like We Do Cars? Ye...

Treating Firearms Like We Do Cars? Yeaha Lets Do That

There are 24 comments on the AmmoLand story from Feb 15, 2012, titled Treating Firearms Like We Do Cars? Yeaha Lets Do That. In it, AmmoLand reports that:

One of the most common arguments from those that support gun control is the idea that " we should treat guns and gun ownership just like we do cars, requiring registration and licensing " . So I thought it would be a fun and informative exercise to explore that idea, while simultaneously blowing a gaping .50 cal hole in what passes for logic in ... (more)

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The Gun Guy

Red Lion, PA

#1 Feb 16, 2012
Ya gotta love it!

“Tu ne cede malis”

Since: Dec 06

Lots of different places

#2 Feb 16, 2012
THE GUNS FORUM
FORUM ISSUE: Reactions to Gun-Ban Arguments
POST # 1780
BY: Jack Burton

Do I need the governments permission to buy a car? No.

Do I need to buy the car from only certain people with licenses to sell cars? No.

Can I buy as many cars as I want each week/month/year. Yes

Can I buy small cars, big cars, slow cars, fast cars, cars that look dangerous? Yes

Can I buy Hummers virtually identical to the ones the troops use? Yes.

Do I have to wait from 5 to 15 days to pick up my car. No

If I traded in one car for a newer model do I still have to wait five to ten days to pick the new one up. No

Can I modify my car to allow more fuel, more performance, or better cornering. Yes

Would I have to turn over to the government without compensation some models of automobiles that might be banned years after I buy them. No

Do I need a license to buy a car? No
(in most states)

Can I buy a car at age 16? Yes.

Are driving lessons mandated in most high schools? Yes

Can I buy a car from anyone in any state? Yes.

Can I sell my car to anyone in any state? Yes

Can convicted felons buy, own or drive a car. Yes

In some places (e.g. NYC or New Jersey) would I first need a permit to buy from the police department which sometimes takes up to 2 years to obtain. No

In some cities (e.g. Washington D.C.) would I have to store my car partially disassembled. No

Do I need to register a car that I own? No (as long as I keep it on my own property)

Do I need a background check or waiting period to buy a car? No

Is my car held responsible if I misuse it? No

Would failure to register my car be a federal felony (prevents me from owning another one). No

Do I need to "safe store" my car even though many are stolen and used for criminal purposes? No

Will I lose my driver's license if I violate the law with my car? Most likely not

Can I legally drive my car into ANY state/city in the nation with EVERY jurisdiction honoring my registration/license? Yes

Shall I go on? Or do you really, really want to treat guns like cars?
Michael Z Williamson

Greenwood, IN

#3 Jun 21, 2014
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/w...
You can have all kinds of fun with this comparison.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#4 Jun 23, 2014
Let's treat guns exactly the way we treat vehicles.

1. You have to pass a proficiency test to get a license, and get that license renewed at specific time intervals.

2. You have to purchase vehicle/gun insurance.

3. You have to pay an annual registration fee per vehicle/gun.

4. There are restrictions to the kinds of vehicles/guns you can own and operate. And restrictions in the places you can operate them. Just like street cars with nitrous oxide injection are illegal in many places, so too can multiple-round magazines be banned.

5. You can't operate vehicles/guns if intoxicated.

6. You must abide by various safety regulations, be it wearing a seatbelt or mandating gun locks.

7. You must pay a transfer tax when selling vehicle/gun to a third party.

8. We should create a federal agency, along the lines of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, tasked with improving gun safety.
Thats What She Said

Beverly, MA

#5 Jun 26, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Let's treat guns exactly the way we treat vehicles.
1. You have to pass a proficiency test to get a license, and get that license renewed at specific time intervals.
2. You have to purchase vehicle/gun insurance.
3. You have to pay an annual registration fee per vehicle/gun.
4. There are restrictions to the kinds of vehicles/guns you can own and operate. And restrictions in the places you can operate them. Just like street cars with nitrous oxide injection are illegal in many places, so too can multiple-round magazines be banned.
5. You can't operate vehicles/guns if intoxicated.
6. You must abide by various safety regulations, be it wearing a seatbelt or mandating gun locks.
7. You must pay a transfer tax when selling vehicle/gun to a third party.
8. We should create a federal agency, along the lines of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, tasked with improving gun safety.
Excellent!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#6 Jul 12, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Let's treat guns exactly the way we treat vehicles.

1. You have to pass a proficiency test to get a license, and get that license renewed at specific time intervals.

2. You have to purchase vehicle/gun insurance.

3. You have to pay an annual registration fee per vehicle/gun.

4. There are restrictions to the kinds of vehicles/guns you can own and operate. And restrictions in the places you can operate them. Just like street cars with nitrous oxide injection are illegal in many places, so too can multiple-round magazines be banned.

5. You can't operate vehicles/guns if intoxicated.

6. You must abide by various safety regulations, be it wearing a seatbelt or mandating gun locks.

7. You must pay a transfer tax when selling vehicle/gun to a third party.

8. We should create a federal agency, along the lines of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration, tasked with improving gun safety.
Not one of those is true if the gun/car does not hit the public roads

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#7 Jul 12, 2014
Here Is One wrote:
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Not one of those is true if the gun/car does not hit the public roads
So? I'm content if you never take your gun off your private property and keep all ammo confined within your property lines. But as soon as you cross your property line with a firearm or ammo, let's apply them all.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#8 Jul 12, 2014
Here Is One wrote:
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Not one of those is true if the gun/car does not hit the public roads
And I'll be the the bank would require registration and insurance for any auto that they are financing for you. Likewise if they are financing your real estate, they could require the same things for deadly weapons kept on that real estate.

In any case, I support treating guns the same way we treat vehicles. How about you?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#9 Jul 12, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>So? I'm content if you never take your gun off your private property and keep all ammo confined within your property lines. But as soon as you cross your property line with a firearm or ammo, let's apply them all.
I can take my car any where I want on a trailer so why can't i do the same with any and all guns?

Why am I forced to buy a house in Nevada to own my full auto weapons?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

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#10 Jul 12, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>And I'll be the the bank would require registration and insurance for any auto that they are financing for you. Likewise if they are financing your real estate, they could require the same things for deadly weapons kept on that real estate.

In any case, I support treating guns the same way we treat vehicles. How about you?
Ok
If you can't afford to buy a gun and finance it the finance company can require insurance

But no finance company forced you to register your car..........LOL

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#11 Jul 12, 2014
Here Is One wrote:
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I can take my car any where I want on a trailer so why can't i do the same with any and all guns?
Why am I forced to buy a house in Nevada to own my full auto weapons?
So you haul an unregistered, uninsured car around on a trailer? For what purpose? Just because you CAN?

LOL!

Of course you don't do that. Nobody does. Here I thought we were engaged in a serious discussion. I didn't know you just wanted to play pretend.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#12 Jul 12, 2014
Here Is One wrote:
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Ok
If you can't afford to buy a gun and finance it the finance company can require insurance
But no finance company forced you to register your car..........LOL
LOL!

More playing pretend. Let me know if you ever get interested in serious, adult discussion.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#13 Jul 12, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>So you haul an unregistered, uninsured car around on a trailer? For what purpose? Just because you CAN?

LOL!

Of course you don't do that. Nobody does. Here I thought we were engaged in a serious discussion. I didn't know you just wanted to play pretend.
Yes
So let's treat guns like cars and allow me to buy any gun I want and I promise I will not drive it or ride it or shoot it on any public street........

Wrong again......
It happens all the time and as a car dealer I did just that tens of thousands of times.......
I have a friend that bout a 1960 corvette and trailered it home and put it on jack stands and just sold it in 2009
I have done the same with hundreds of guns but have not sold them yet.
I bought ten H&K p7m-10 40 s&w pistols for under 400 dollars each and today they would fetch over 2k each but liberals that are scared of a object want to say I can't do that any more

You really don't understand that there are millions if people that own hundreds of millions of guns that they don't shoot???
You have really never heard the term gun collectors????

Yes let's treat guns like cars
And I can buy any car I want
I don't have to register ,license or insure it unless I use it on a public road

There is no limit on the type or amount I can buy

I can modify it any way I want

I can take it any where I want

I can sell it to anyone I want

I can use it on any private property I want

Now for the three guns I am registered to carry concealed they are not registered other than the serial number is listed on the CCW

You said let's treat guns like cars????
Why are you changing your tune???

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#14 Jul 12, 2014
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!

More playing pretend. Let me know if you ever get interested in serious, adult discussion.
So you really don't understand that millions of cars are collected just like hundreds of millions of guns are bought with no intention of ever shooting them?

I bought on of John Brownings original prototype BAR. The Browning Automatic Rifle a full auto rifle
The gun was sold at auction for over 25k dollars and it will never ever be shot

But people like you are scared of a object so you don't want anyone to own one

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#15 Jul 12, 2014
Here Is One wrote:
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So you really don't understand that millions of cars are collected just like hundreds of millions of guns are bought with no intention of ever shooting them?
I bought on of John Brownings original prototype BAR. The Browning Automatic Rifle a full auto rifle
The gun was sold at auction for over 25k dollars and it will never ever be shot
But people like you are scared of a object so you don't want anyone to own one
Of course I know people collect guns. What a ridiculous assumption of you to make.

And I'm not afraid of guns. Another ridiculous assumption. I own many guns, but I use them all. I've never understood owning a gun or car and never using it. But then again, I don't have tens of thousands of dollars to play around with like that.

You'd do well to deal more in facts and less in assumptions.
True facts

Miami, FL

#17 Jul 2, 2015
Dan the Pussy Chambersburg wrote:
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I admit I'm a fucking retard.
There was never a doubt,

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#18 Jul 2, 2015
True facts wrote:
<quoted text>There was never a doubt,
Beaten to a pulp so bad you are forced to revert to childish school yard tactics of changing people's post proving how utterly stupid you are

Thanks..........LOL
payme

Nettleton, MS

#19 Jul 2, 2015
Here Is One wrote:
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Beaten to a pulp so bad you are forced to revert to childish school yard tactics of changing people's post proving how utterly stupid you are
Thanks..........LOL
Are you sure you posted to the right person?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#20 Jul 2, 2015
payme wrote:
<quoted text>Are you sure you posted to the right person?
I don't care what side you are on

Reverting to changing people's post like Dan and his other alias do is admitting defeat.....
payme

Nettleton, MS

#21 Jul 4, 2015
Here Is One wrote:
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I don't care what side you are on
Reverting to changing people's post like Dan and his other alias do is admitting defeat.....
Tell me where on the human body you can shoot someone with a .357 mag. at 20 feet and stop them that a .38 special +p with the same bullet won't.

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