Moving mountains

Nov 27, 2010 Full story: Sunday Times 7

BOND AMBITION: A view of the Varlaam Monastery at Meteora in central Greece, a spectacular series of rock pillars with a medieval monastery perched on each pinnacle - and the quintessential Bond film location Pictures: GETTY/GALLO IMAGES Fathers who expect their offspring to follow in their footsteps fail to take the competition into account.

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Gustav

Trollhättan, Sweden

#1 Nov 28, 2010
Want to know a few things and facts about Turkey?

Modern Turkey is nothing of what Turkey used to be, after stealing culture form every nation, Turkey transformed to a transvestite hard to be identified of what it is.

But deep inside, Turkey remains a transvestite.

Turkey is a nation that promotes propaganda, false and incorrect historical and cultural information in order to gain some glance for its self.

Glance, that never was able to posses due to the fact that Turkish culture and civilization had never achieved anything to distinguish or anything remarkable.

Someone can easily spot a few Turkish "copy paste" or borrowed customs and trademarks. Some of these are:

The Turkish flag is a symbol stolen from the Greeks, the Byzantine empire! The Turkish currency, the Turkish pound, was invented by the British.

The modern Turkish writing, stolen by Turks, directly from the European countries that used to occupy Turkey, France, Italy, England Greece etc...

Turks use to write Arabic, as their mother tongue has Arabic origins.

The modern dress and look of Turkey stolen by the West, Turks used to wear Arabic clothes till the 1900s! Turkish cousin and food, stolen by Armenia, Kurdistan, Syria and Egypt! The Turkish modern art, stolen from Italy, Greece, France and Spain! Turkish monuments, there is none! All Turkey has to show, is Agia Sofia and Greek temples and monuments! Ephesus, Miletus, Troy, Halicarnassus, Trabzon, Sinop, Smyrna, Antalya, Adana,Edessa, Mesopotamia,Elaea (Aeolis), Epibates,Ermenek,E rythrae,Eski sehir, Faustinopolis,Anti ochia, Lydia, Heraclea Pontica, Ceramus,Mallus,,Ma nisa,Mersin, Pergamon, Pessinus, Phellus, Phocaea and many others, are Ancient Greek cities with Greek monuments! Even the Mountain Ararat, was stolen from the Armenians!

The Turks today are a mix of Armenians, Serbians, Greeks, and Kurds etc. Turks were mixed in a huge portion during the Ottoman Empire when they needed vast numbers of men to serve the army.

Then, they started a program of child, youth male collection from the above nations, to use them as Janissary. Janissaries were the best Turkish military force ever, and it was not even Turkish! These soldiers were the elite of the Turkish community and were the only units allowed and promoted to mate and produce children, capable as them!

That had as a result, the vast majority of Turks today to be consisted by Armenians, Greeks and Serbs! Even the Ottoman Empire was not Turkish, it starts as an Arabic effort to unite the Arabic nomads of the area. It was consisted by Egyptians, Syrians, Bedouins, Persians and others.

Somewhere there, in the mid 1200s Mongol tribes that were driven out by the Hans, come to the area, and mixes with the Arabic nomads.

These mixes form the Turkic branch of Mongols. The Turkish lands are not even Turkish! Mosul and Hatay belong to Syria and are occupied illegally, Eastern Turkey belongs to Kurdistan, Eastern Thrace with the Islands Imbros and Tenedos belong to Greece, Northern Cyprus is occupied illegally, Ararat and parts of Eastern Turkey belong to Armenia. Constantinople ( Istanbul ) is occupied illegally as well.

Turkey doesn't belong in Europe, but Turks claim that they do not belong to Asia either! Turkey is a modern fine transvestite!

Turkey today calims that they have a Democracy (today there is a military regime that rules Turkey), even that was stollen form the West, Greece! And there is much more....
Wilhelm Muller

Germany

#2 Dec 1, 2010
Macedonia belongs to Greece.

It is historically approved by many historians from all over the world that the people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great!

Macedonians were Greeks and spoke the Greek language. Numerous excavations in all of the ancient Macedonia area have consistently unearthed relics clearly with Greek writings, and depictions of rulers clearly designated with Greek names.

In ancient Greek culture, Macedonians celebrated the same festivals with the rest of the Greeks. They took part in the Olympic games which at the time was only participated in by the Hellenes.

The regions that comprised the area of Macedonia all had Greek names.

Furthermore, the architecture of the palaces, temples, theaters & ancient markets are all characteristic samples of ancient Greek architecture of the time.

These Hellenic structures clearly included Greek writings on them which without a shodow of a doubt prove that they were dveloped by the Greeks and belonged to the Greeks.

The ancient Macedonians believed in the same 12 Gods of Olympus as the rest of the Hellenes. In addition, the Macedonians fought together with the rest of the Hellenes against barbarians.

To the Greeks at the time, a barbarian was defined as any group of people who did not share the same developed culture. Any group of people outside of civilized Greece was defended against by all of Greece, which included Macedonia.

Last but certainly not least, Macedonia was a member of the Delphic Amfictiony, an institution which was open only to Greeks.....

The people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great, the Macedonian Greeks !
Wilhelm Muller

Germany

#3 Dec 4, 2010
Macedonia belongs to Greece.

It is historically approved by many historians from all over the world that the people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great!

Macedonians were Greeks and spoke the Greek language. Numerous excavations in all of the ancient Macedonia area have consistently unearthed relics clearly with Greek writings, and depictions of rulers clearly designated with Greek names.

In ancient Greek culture, Macedonians celebrated the same festivals with the rest of the Greeks. They took part in the Olympic games which at the time was only participated in by the Hellenes.

The regions that comprised the area of Macedonia all had Greek names.

Furthermore, the architecture of the palaces, temples, theaters & ancient markets are all characteristic samples of ancient Greek architecture of the time.

These Hellenic structures clearly included Greek writings on them which without a shodow of a doubt prove that they were dveloped by the Greeks and belonged to the Greeks.

The ancient Macedonians believed in the same 12 Gods of Olympus as the rest of the Hellenes. In addition, the Macedonians fought together with the rest of the Hellenes against barbarians.

To the Greeks at the time, a barbarian was defined as any group of people who did not share the same developed culture. Any group of people outside of civilized Greece was defended against by all of Greece, which included Macedonia.

Last but certainly not least, Macedonia was a member of the Delphic Amfictiony, an institution which was open only to Greeks.....

The people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great, the Macedonian Greeks !
Hendrik Kerkman

Netherlands

#4 Dec 5, 2010
The Ancient Macedonians were undoubtedly a Greek tribe; either a north-western tribe related to the Dorians and Epirots, or an Aeolic one related to the Aeolians of Thessaly (before the north-western tribe of the Thessalians settled there), as scholars tend to accept today.

Nowadays it is not seriously doubted that they were Greeks, although some opposing views have been expressed by certain modern historians and linguists because the evidence of ancient writers has not been interpreted correctly and the relatively limited linguistic material preserved has not been evaluated correctly

The Ancient Macedonians initially settled in NW Macedonia. Later they expanded into the fertile valley of Haliakmon river, where, after having driven back or subjugated the Illyrian and Thracian tribes, they established the Macedonian state.

During this time the regions of NW Macedonia remained independent hegemonies.

Later on, the kingdom of Macedonia expanded up to the Strymon river. Their relative isolation for centuries, in the country that bears their name, greatly contributed to their developing autonomous unity, both social and political, without being greatly influenced by other Greeks and, therefore, without the cultural development of the southern regions

Ancient sources affirm that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks, and the linguistic conclusions, which are based on the study of the Macedonian dialect, also attest to this.

Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly emi-gres in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.

To end this non-sence dispitute, Yes, Macedonians were Greeks!
Wilhelm Muller

Germany

#5 Dec 7, 2010
Macedonia belongs to Greece.

It is historically approved by many historians from all over the world that the people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great!

Macedonians were Greeks and spoke the Greek language. Numerous excavations in all of the ancient Macedonia area have consistently unearthed relics clearly with Greek writings, and depictions of rulers clearly designated with Greek names.

In ancient Greek culture, Macedonians celebrated the same festivals with the rest of the Greeks. They took part in the Olympic games which at the time was only participated in by the Hellenes.

The regions that comprised the area of Macedonia all had Greek names.

Furthermore, the architecture of the palaces, temples, theaters & ancient markets are all characteristic samples of ancient Greek architecture of the time.

These Hellenic structures clearly included Greek writings on them which without a shodow of a doubt prove that they were dveloped by the Greeks and belonged to the Greeks.

The ancient Macedonians believed in the same 12 Gods of Olympus as the rest of the Hellenes. In addition, the Macedonians fought together with the rest of the Hellenes against barbarians.

To the Greeks at the time, a barbarian was defined as any group of people who did not share the same developed culture. Any group of people outside of civilized Greece was defended against by all of Greece, which included Macedonia.

Last but certainly not least, Macedonia was a member of the Delphic Amfictiony, an institution which was open only to Greeks.....

The people of Skopje are Slavs or other races, but have nothing to do with the people of Alexander the Great, the Macedonian Greeks !
just candid

AOL

#6 Dec 7, 2010
Sounds like they took the best ideas and ran with them. Sure they screwed up on somethings, but overall they sound like a smart bunch of people.
Hendrik Kerkman

Netherlands

#7 Dec 8, 2010
The Ancient Macedonians were undoubtedly a Greek tribe; either a north-western tribe related to the Dorians and Epirots, or an Aeolic one related to the Aeolians of Thessaly (before the north-western tribe of the Thessalians settled there), as scholars tend to accept today.

Nowadays it is not seriously doubted that they were Greeks, although some opposing views have been expressed by certain modern historians and linguists because the evidence of ancient writers has not been interpreted correctly and the relatively limited linguistic material preserved has not been evaluated correctly

The Ancient Macedonians initially settled in NW Macedonia. Later they expanded into the fertile valley of Haliakmon river, where, after having driven back or subjugated the Illyrian and Thracian tribes, they established the Macedonian state.

During this time the regions of NW Macedonia remained independent hegemonies.

Later on, the kingdom of Macedonia expanded up to the Strymon river. Their relative isolation for centuries, in the country that bears their name, greatly contributed to their developing autonomous unity, both social and political, without being greatly influenced by other Greeks and, therefore, without the cultural development of the southern regions

Ancient sources affirm that the ancient Macedonians were Greeks, and the linguistic conclusions, which are based on the study of the Macedonian dialect, also attest to this.

Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and Macedonians, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom.

Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émi-grés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity.

To end this non-sence dispitute, Yes, Macedonians were Greeks!

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