Athens cuts financial aid to Skopje over name dispute

[Vlad Dracula]

You FOPOTaM ( Former Ottoman Province of Thesalia and Morea)- ians really need help. I am sure that the UN could provide some world renowned specialists with blue helmets that will go into every FOPOTAM city and village. Laid on comfortable beds, you will be free to say anything that is on your mind. It will be a great relief, I'm sure. FOOD for MYANMAR, Psychiatrists sans Frontiers for Greece!!!!

[katina]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

You FOPOTaM ( Former Ottoman Province of Thesalia and Morea)- ians really need help. I am sure that the UN could provide some world renowned specialists with blue helmets that will go into every FOPOTAM city and village. Laid on comfortable beds, you will be free to say anything that is on your mind. It will be a great relief, I'm sure. FOOD for MYANMAR, Psychiatrists sans Frontiers for Greece!!!!

I would ask you how old you are but I know you can't count that high.

[Vlad Dracula]

katina wrote:

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I would ask you how old you are but I know you can't count that high.

Lovely Katina,
Teach me please!!!! I crave for knowledge, for the ultimate Greek wisdom!!! Lighten up my ignorance and inject Plato, Anaximander, Socrates into my brain cells!!! Oooo you wise men and women who took the darkness out of this world!!!!!:)

[katina]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

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Lovely Katina,
Teach me please!!!! I crave for knowledge, for the ultimate Greek wisdom!!! Lighten up my ignorance and inject Plato, Anaximander, Socrates into my brain cells!!! Oooo you wise men and women who took the darkness out of this world!!!!!:)

No chance you need a brain to learn and
you lack qualifications!!

[Istor]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

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Lovely Katina,
Teach me please!!!!......

Lets read Gruev's telegram first:

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http://members.tripod.com/~dimobetchev/docume...

" Considering the critical and terrible situation that the Bulgarian
population of the Bitola Vilayet found itself in and following the ravages and cruelties done by the Turkish troops and irregulars,... considering the fact that everything Bulgarian runs the risk of perishing and disappearing without a trace because of violence, hunger, and the upcoming misery, the Head Quarters finds it to be its obligation to draw the attention of the respected Bulgarian government to the pernicious consequences vis-a-vis the Bulgarian nation, in case the latter does not fulfill its duty towards its brethren of race here in an imposing fashion which is necessary by virtue of the present ordeal for the common Bulgarian Fatherland...

...Being in command of our people's movement, we appeal to you on behalf of the enslaved Bulgarian to help him in the most effective way - by waging war.We believe that the response of the people in free Bulgaria will be the same.

... No bulgarian school is opened, neither will it be opened... Nobody
thinks of education when he is outlawed by the state because he bears the name Bulgar...

Waiting for your patriotic intervention, we are pleased to inform you that we have in our disposition the armed forces we have spared by now.

The Head Quarters of the Ilinden Uprising"

Damian GRUEV, Boris SARAFOV, Atanas LOZANTCHEV

This memorandum was handed to Dr.Kozhuharov, the Bulgarian consul in Bitola, and transmitted by him to the government in Sofia with report N441 from September 17th, 1903. "
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So, the question is "was Gruev Macedonian"?

[Vlad Dracula]

katina wrote:

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No chance you need a brain to learn and
you lack qualifications!!

But you are a christian, orthodox, you should help the man in need. What kind of believer you are? What happenned to Byzance, to the holy Empire? You gave us the Word of God and now you are denying it? That is not very Christian, you know? St. Paul would be very angry :)

[katina]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

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But you are a christian, orthodox, you should help the man in need. What kind of believer you are? What happenned to Byzance, to the holy Empire? You gave us the Word of God and now you are denying it? That is not very Christian, you know? St. Paul would be very angry :)

I wonder how many angels could dance on his head?

[Istor]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

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But you are a christian, orthodox, you should help the man in need. What kind of believer you are? What happenned to Byzance, to the holy Empire? You gave us the Word of God and now you are denying it? That is not very Christian, you know? St. Paul would be very angry :)

We have to test if you are educatable, first.

Answer my question above!

[Guess Who]

arbeit macht Frei wrote:

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That would have been a good idea BUT why genocide them when we can have the gypsies of Skopje work for us?
Just like all the Yugoslav immigrants in the US and Australia ---who have never set foot in Skopje (yet they yap non-stop)--- did and do for USA/Australia.
Skopjans will be used for the glory of Greece.

Skopje was a land grant given by Alexander to the Scoots' to convert the Musselmen...

[Vlad Dracula]

Again with that Gruev telegram...
Don't you see that he mentioned Bulgaria 10.000 times? Isn't it obvious that he wanted to draw out some weapons and money so he had to kiss some ass.. If he said Macedonian he wasn't going to get anything for sure! And the history tells us how Bulgaria 'helped' the Ilinden uprising - by sabotaging it. So Istor - if you pretend to be true historian - read between the lines. If not - screw you.

[Guess Who]

Who were the Jugoslaves?

[Geo]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

Again with that Gruev telegram...
Don't you see that he mentioned Bulgaria 10.000 times? Isn't it obvious that he wanted to draw out some weapons and money so he had to kiss some ass.. If he said Macedonian he wasn't going to get anything for sure! And the history tells us how Bulgaria 'helped' the Ilinden uprising - by sabotaging it. So Istor - if you pretend to be true historian - read between the lines. If not - screw you.

So he was willing to renounce his fake Macedonism in order to get his hands on money and weapons? HA! We'd pay any price to keep our name and prevent others from using and abusing our beautiful name of Makedonia!

I guess we just found out who values it more.

[Filip the II reincarnated]

Here's some more evidence about (close) future and destiny of this geektar transformers and the historical distortion they provoked:
http://www.usefoundation.org/foundation/resea ...
You wont last very long geektars!

[Nearchus]

PLEASE SEE MY CONSECUTIVE POSTS

IN THE THREAD of "The Bible says....."

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[John B]

Slavs can never be Macedonian read a history book!

[cherry]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

Again with that Gruev telegram...
Don't you see that he mentioned Bulgaria 10.000 times? Isn't it obvious that he wanted to draw out some weapons and money so he had to kiss some ass.. If he said Macedonian he wasn't going to get anything for sure! And the history tells us how Bulgaria 'helped' the Ilinden uprising - by sabotaging it. So Istor - if you pretend to be true historian - read between the lines. If not - screw you.

omg,youre actually a stupid nation...so you admit that you kiss asses for some money and food??how embarassing...lol =D
and you should learn some history...yes..i know..its difficult cause youre all u-n-e-d-u-c-a-t-e-d....but that's life...my VARDARSKAN friend!and youre called ''macedonia'' for 60 years ..just because an ass called tito decided so...you were and will always be:VARDARSKA yeah,that really matches you barbarian creatures...lol
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SALONIKA!!!!!!!!!!

[from Greece]

Vlad Dracula wrote:

Again with that Gruev telegram...
Don't you see that he mentioned Bulgaria 10.000 times? Isn't it obvious that he wanted to draw out some weapons and money so he had to kiss some ass.. If he said Macedonian he wasn't going to get anything for sure! And the history tells us how Bulgaria 'helped' the Ilinden uprising - by sabotaging it. So Istor - if you pretend to be true historian - read between the lines. If not - screw you.

Vlad Dracula??????
You are romanian, or you are just trying to steal Vlad Dracula from Romania, like you are trying to steal Megas Alexandros from Greece?

FYROM=The artificial state that always wants to steal names, lands,language, symboles, and flags, from other neighbouring nations!

[Gaygreekboy]

The Truth

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/

You are the blind and I am the one-eyed man

[Nick the Greek]

Gaygreekboy wrote:

The Truth
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/
You are the blind and I am the one-eyed man

Your website is full of contradictions and half truth's.It is also inaccurate on this item:

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/ConciseMace...
This claims that you are not Slavs,see item 7

7. "The Macedonians in the Republic of Macedonia, and Macedonian minorities in Greece, Bulgaria, and Albania, continue to proudly call themselves "Macedonians" and consider the "Slav" label an insult and racial slur."

This statement is incorrect.Most of your people identify as Slav.Your language is Slavic,closely related to Bulgarian and most importantly,all the Slavic countries consider you to be a Slav people.
The include your country in all the Slav unity websites.The Slav countries say that you belong
to the Slav collective of peoples.

The Macedonians belong to the Hellenic collective
of peoples.The Macedonian's were one of 230 known
Greek/Hellenic groups tribes kingdoms.

[Gayfyromianboy]

Of course the above IS NOT The Truth!

The truth is that in Skopje i used to be fucked by albanians who had 25 centimeter dicks.
I paid them, but night after night i wanted more albanians to fuck me. I owe a lot of money to them but i don't have any money to give them that's why i escaped to Greece.