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Georgia: Armenian-Turkish Rapprochement Could Have Significant Economic Impact on Tbilisi

There are 620 comments on the EurasiaNet story from Jan 8, 2010, titled Georgia: Armenian-Turkish Rapprochement Could Have Significant Economic Impact on Tbilisi. In it, EurasiaNet reports that:

As prospects dim for a quick reopening of the Turkish-Armenian border, Georgian business executives remain quietly content.

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Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#1 Jan 8, 2010
Does TR understand that the gate has no role to play in reconciliation of real issues between TR and RA.
Within that context NK issue does not even come close to being relevant to the opening of a trivial gate.
This then leaves two major points to be resolved.
Defunct Treaty of Kars
and
Armenian Genocide.
TR is well aware of this situation but rather tipitoe around them with the superficial issues they intentionally created themselves.
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#2 Jan 8, 2010
Does TR understand that the gate has no role to play in reconciliation of real issues between TR and RA.
Within that context NK issue does not even come close to being relevant to the opening of a trivial gate.
This then leaves two major points to be resolved.
Defunct Treaty of Kars
and
Armenian Genocide.
TR is well aware of this situation but rather tipitoe around them with the superficial issues they intentionally created themselves.
Sahakian

West Barnstable, MA

#3 Jan 8, 2010
TR is on the right track.So far TR forighn policy has been dictated by Azerbaijan in regards to RA however every country should asses its own interests after all that's the whole idea of being indipendent country anyway.Imagine Mexico saying to US don't do business with Canada becouse some terrotroal issue.Well Roger what the fk that has anything to with Country A and B trying to do business.
I firmly believe for once TR policy is shifting for regional overall approach instead of purely archaic "Turkishnes"
I am sure people like Serkan and others like him will disagree but I am hoping majority of Turks realize that 19th century is over.
Serkan

Pittsburgh, PA

#4 Jan 9, 2010
Sahakian wrote:
TR is on the right track.So far TR forighn policy has been dictated by Azerbaijan in regards to RA however every country should asses its own interests after all that's the whole idea of being indipendent country anyway.Imagine Mexico saying to US don't do business with Canada becouse some terrotroal issue.Well Roger what the fk that has anything to with Country A and B trying to do business.
I firmly believe for once TR policy is shifting for regional overall approach instead of purely archaic "Turkishnes"
I am sure people like Serkan and others like him will disagree but I am hoping majority of Turks realize that 19th century is over.
TR will do exactly what is in its interests. Offending Azerbaijan Turks is not in the interests of TR, so our foreign policy will keep taking into consideration Azerbaijan concerns as well.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#6 Jan 10, 2010
Serkan wrote:
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TR will do exactly what is in its interests. Offending Azerbaijan Turks is not in the interests of TR, so our foreign policy will keep taking into consideration Azerbaijan concerns as well.
Better worry about yourselves and leave issues that do not concern you to the interested parties.The whole world is watching how Turkey bullies Armenian to achieve their illegal goals.Better for Turkey to be part of a solution rather then becoming part of the problem, if they want to graduate to a higher level in nation building.
mumtaz

Gaziantep, Turkey

#7 Jan 10, 2010
AR got olmus durumda,halkta artik orduya guvenmiyo.Yoksulluktan,halk hareketleri baslamasi lazim.Dasnak fosillerinin tek tek temizlenmesi lazim.Bir tarafta Zavalli caresiz halk,diger tarafta yan gelip yatan diaspora fosilleri.
Akli basinda adamda yok,no lacak bu milletin hali?
Serkan

Pittsburgh, PA

#8 Jan 10, 2010
vatchakan wrote:
<quoted text>Better worry about yourselves and leave issues that do not concern you to the interested parties.The whole world is watching how Turkey bullies Armenian to achieve their illegal goals.Better for Turkey to be part of a solution rather then becoming part of the problem, if they want to graduate to a higher level in nation building.
Who hired you as a consultant of TR foreign policy?

And stop joking around. I know it hurts but the fact is noone cares about AR. If you do not sort out your issues with Azerbaijan and Turkey, noone else will do that for you.
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#9 Jan 10, 2010
We know no body cares about Ar anymore in turkey. mumtass says "Ar got olmus durumda, kimse orduya guvenmiyo."
Bir killetin ar damari catlamaya gorsun.
RA does not need arsiz turkic friendship.
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#10 Jan 11, 2010
Ulan ben AR diyorum ,ibne dander RA diyo.Siktimin tersosu.
AR needs public protests,public anarchy.And some unresolved assassinations to the Dasnak fossils,
And clever ,nationalist Armenians must come together and establish a good terror organisation,and these patriots must kill all Dasnak fasists ,fossils,especialy who are in the goverment,in rule,and in parliament.Then they have to destroy parliament building,demolish it.And THEN,a new parliament building must be constructed.
Then a good election,then new parliaments,with new brains must be elected.
Otherwise there is no way!!
Prof Mumtaz
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#11 Jan 11, 2010
RT de ki tum toplu mezarlardan cika cika 510 musluman cikmis,
yani 1.5 milyon Ermeniyi katletmek icin uydurdugunuz hikayeyi desteklemek icin 90 senede koca turkiyede bula bula 510 musluman kemigi bulmusunuz. Daha onlarinda musluman mi Hristiyan mi oldugu supheli ya hadi o kadar kazma salladiginiza verelim.
Simdi anladinmi AR damarinizin niye catlak oldugunu?
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#12 Jan 11, 2010
Dander wrote:
RT de ki tum toplu mezarlardan cika cika 510 musluman cikmis,
yani 1.5 milyon Ermeniyi katletmek icin uydurdugunuz hikayeyi desteklemek icin 90 senede koca turkiyede bula bula 510 musluman kemigi bulmusunuz. Daha onlarinda musluman mi Hristiyan mi oldugu supheli ya hadi o kadar kazma salladiginiza verelim.
Simdi anladinmi AR damarinizin niye catlak oldugunu?
510 fazla bile.Biz bi yeri kazdik,510 kisi cikti.Soykirim kanununu bi oku,sayi onemli degil.Bi kisi bile olsa ,sirf Turk oldugu icin oldurulmusse ,soykirim.Zaten hiyar ermeninin anlamadigi bu,1,5 milyon diyince kimse inanmiyo,1000 kisi deseydiniz ,simdi soykirim taninmis olacakti.Senin gibi ermenilerde matematikten anlamiyo.
1,5 MILYONU SALLAYAN ADAM KESIN TURK DOSTU.Sen bunu anlamazsin,sende beyin yok.
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#13 Jan 11, 2010
Dedik ya onlarinda musluman olup olmadiklari belli degil diye.
Yoksa nisan 1990 dan bu yana bildiginiz Zeve yi kullanip AG kararlarini durdururdunuz.
Demekki 1.5 milyonun katli icin eterli sebep degilmis.
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#14 Jan 11, 2010
Dander wrote:
Dedik ya onlarinda musluman olup olmadiklari belli degil diye.
Yoksa nisan 1990 dan bu yana bildiginiz Zeve yi kullanip AG kararlarini durdururdunuz.
Demekki 1.5 milyonun katli icin eterli sebep degilmis.
Bi kisi yeter diyorum ,dallama anlamiyomusun.Belkide 509 u hiristiyandir,ama kesin ermeni degil.Belki Yunan cumhurbaskani Karamanlisin akrabalaridir,karanbole gitmislerdir.Dallma seni.
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#15 Jan 11, 2010
mumtaz wrote:
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Bi kisi yeter diyorum ,dallama anlamiyomusun.Belkide 509 u hiristiyandir,ama kesin ermeni degil.Belki Yunan cumhurbaskani Karamanlisin akrabalaridir,karanbole gitmislerdir.Dallma seni.
Bir kisi yeterse Hrant Dink sulalenizi sikti demektir.
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#16 Jan 11, 2010
Dander wrote:
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Bir kisi yeterse Hrant Dink sulalenizi sikti demektir.
Senin sulaleni ben sikiyim,yavsak,Avrupa Hranti kahraman yapin ,yapalim,meshur edelim,herkez tanisin,herkez bilsin,televizyonlara cikarin,konussun,taninsin dedi tamam dedik,sonrada ibne oldurun dedi.Bati bu ,batinin emperyalismi bu,Her turlu taktik var.Adami oldurduk,bu seferde aman cok iyi cenaze yapin,kalabalik olsun dedi,tamam dedik,onuda kabul ettik,Bu seferde para vermis ona buna,soytarilara,hepimiz ermeniyiz diye ellerinde yazilar,sov yaptiriyo.
Ondan sonrada butun dunyaya,Hrant bir kahramandi,o iki millet arasindaki ,dostlugun kurucusuydu,soyleydi boyleydi,halbuki zavalli ,kullanilan garibandi.Ben Hranta saygi duyuyorum,mantikli adamdi,vede cok uzuldum,nedeni batinin adamcagizi kullanmasi,ve acimasizca oldurmesi.Yazik.Ama bosa olmedi.Aslinda olusu ermeniye daha faydali olabilir,bu tasnak kafalilar anlarsa.
Bence Hrant gercek ermeni sehidi.(sehidlik yerine sizde ne varsa )
Bati orospu cocugu ve acimasiz,yillarca Fransa basta olmak uzere hepsine anlattik,soykirim muhabbetini birakinda ermeniyle iyi gecinelim,ermenistan hem bize ,siz anlamiyosunuz ama,hemde size engel dedik anlatamadik,daha yeni yeni anliyolar,Rusun kucagina attilar.Rusda Karabag isgaliyle hepten icinden cikilmaz sorun yaratti,borularida dosedi,gene Turkiye varini yogunu ortaya koyup Gurcistani Rusun elinden aldi,ama Erminiye izin vermediler.Bugun Baku Ceyhan varsa Turkiyenin Gurcistani elde etme basarisi,Ama akilli Rus bu seferde Gurcistana saldirip,ermeniye gelin kardesim dedi,simdi diger borular icin Rusa taviz veriyoruz,aslinda bati veriyo,bizim yerimiz zaten burda.
Ermenide arada gelen sikiyo giden sikiyo,bu soykirim muhabbeti ,bazen dusunuyorumda Rus tezgahimi,cunku batinin cikari yok.
Neyse bunlar seni asar,ihsallah akliniz basiniza gelirde Nabukonun borusunu gotunuze sokariz.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#17 Jan 11, 2010
I notice how the dialog by Turkish poster here become profane and racist the minute they post in Turkish. But when they write in English they try to polish their language. What a hypocritical bunch of slime balls!!
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#18 Jan 11, 2010
You noticed wrong.
Dander

Whitemark, Australia

#19 Jan 11, 2010
mumtaz wrote:
<quoted text>
Senin sulaleni ben sikiyim,yavsak,Avrupa Hranti kahraman yapin ,yapalim,meshur edelim,herkez tanisin,herkez bilsin,televizyonlara cikarin,konussun,taninsin dedi tamam dedik,sonrada ibne oldurun dedi.Bati bu ,batinin emperyalismi bu,Her turlu taktik var.Adami oldurduk,bu seferde aman cok iyi cenaze yapin,kalabalik olsun dedi,tamam dedik,onuda kabul ettik,Bu seferde para vermis ona buna,soytarilara,hepimiz ermeniyiz diye ellerinde yazilar,sov yaptiriyo.
Ondan sonrada butun dunyaya,Hrant bir kahramandi,o iki millet arasindaki ,dostlugun kurucusuydu,soyleydi boyleydi,halbuki zavalli ,kullanilan garibandi.Ben Hranta saygi duyuyorum,mantikli adamdi,vede cok uzuldum,nedeni batinin adamcagizi kullanmasi,ve acimasizca oldurmesi.Yazik.Ama bosa olmedi.Aslinda olusu ermeniye daha faydali olabilir,bu tasnak kafalilar anlarsa.
Bence Hrant gercek ermeni sehidi.(sehidlik yerine sizde ne varsa )
Bati orospu cocugu ve acimasiz,yillarca Fransa basta olmak uzere hepsine anlattik,soykirim muhabbetini birakinda ermeniyle iyi gecinelim,ermenistan hem bize ,siz anlamiyosunuz ama,hemde size engel dedik anlatamadik,daha yeni yeni anliyolar,Rusun kucagina attilar.Rusda Karabag isgaliyle hepten icinden cikilmaz sorun yaratti,borularida dosedi,gene Turkiye varini yogunu ortaya koyup Gurcistani Rusun elinden aldi,ama Erminiye izin vermediler.Bugun Baku Ceyhan varsa Turkiyenin Gurcistani elde etme basarisi,Ama akilli Rus bu seferde Gurcistana saldirip,ermeniye gelin kardesim dedi,simdi diger borular icin Rusa taviz veriyoruz,aslinda bati veriyo,bizim yerimiz zaten burda.
Ermenide arada gelen sikiyo giden sikiyo,bu soykirim muhabbeti ,bazen dusunuyorumda Rus tezgahimi,cunku batinin cikari yok.
Neyse bunlar seni asar,ihsallah akliniz basiniza gelirde Nabukonun borusunu gotunuze sokariz.
Erdogan Putine domalmaya gidiyor, o da gerekeni yapacak.
Yaptigin yaygaraya bakilirsa Hrant YEDI SULALENIZI sikmis bile.
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#20 Jan 11, 2010
Dander wrote:
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Erdogan Putine domalmaya gidiyor, o da gerekeni yapacak.
Yaptigin yaygaraya bakilirsa Hrant YEDI SULALENIZI sikmis bile.
Zavalli ,ermeni:
Guney akimda Turkiye ile olmak istiyoruz diyo.
Size dunya fiyatlarindan daha aza nukleer santral yapalim diyo.
Ceyhana gelecek petrol icin,ortak rafineri yapalim diyo.
Kafkas isbirligi onerinizi kabul ediyorum diyo.
Gumruk islemlerini Turkiye lehine hafifletecem diyo.
Batya Kosovayi taniyosunuzda neden Kuzey kibrisi tanimiyosunuz,neden cifte standart uyguluyosunuz diyo.
Mavi akimin imzalari atildi,gazi Kibrisa,Israile birlikte goturelim diyo.
BE ,AMINI AVRADINI SIKTIMIN CAHILI ,SIKTIMIN BEYINSIZI,BU MU DOMALMAK?
Siz domalmayi iyi bilirsiniz,hic benziyomu ?
Senin kafani sikiyim.Dangalak!!UYUYOMUSUNUZ NE BOK NIYOSUNUZ BELLI DEGIL.
mumtaz

Kirikkale, Turkey

#21 Jan 11, 2010
Oglum siz niye salaksiniz?.Sizde beyin yokmu?
Bu kadar mal bi millet olamaz,hangi devirde yasiyosunuz,televizyondami seyretmiyosunuz,hiyar geldiniz ,hiyar gidiyosunuz.

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