U.S. warship leaves Sevastopol after protests

Full story: RIA Novosti 134
The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Dallas left Sevastopol Tuesday morning after anti-NATO protests in Ukraine's Crimean port. Full Story
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sageone

Manchester, NH

#1 Sep 2, 2008
so much for humanitarian aid...
Canuck

La Ronge, Canada

#2 Sep 2, 2008
Looks like the stench of the West is becoming too overwhelming for most of the people of the area.
Crimea will seek independece soon. I doesn't belong to Ukraine anyway.
The Ukrainian leadership is acting contrary to the will of the people. This is demockracy Ukrainian style.
blackrabbit

Emmenbrucke, Switzerland

#3 Sep 2, 2008
Sevastopol and the Krim are Russian Territory, even if the map says something different. So it was a rather stupid move to send an American ship there in the first place. If you want to provoke Russia, then you have to do it in a professional way and not with a half-hearted and poor plan that ends with a retreat. Pffft...
Canuck

La Ronge, Canada

#4 Sep 2, 2008
blackrabbit wrote:
Sevastopol and the Krim are Russian Territory, even if the map says something different. So it was a rather stupid move to send an American ship there in the first place. If you want to provoke Russia, then you have to do it in a professional way and not with a half-hearted and poor plan that ends with a retreat. Pffft...
Exactly, the Americans sent a warship into a Russian Port and expected to be greeted with candies and flowers. What a bunch of morons.
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#5 Sep 2, 2008
blackrabbit wrote:
Sevastopol and the Krim are Russian Territory, even if the map says something different. So it was a rather stupid move to send an American ship there in the first place. If you want to provoke Russia, then you have to do it in a professional way and not with a half-hearted and poor plan that ends with a retreat. Pffft...
Were Russian territory.

As with all Empires, when they dissolve, so does their rights to land that they once occupied.

Bye, bye Russian Black Sea Fleet in 2017. Ukraine no longer wants you.
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#6 Sep 2, 2008
Canuck wrote:
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Exactly, the Americans sent a warship into a Russian Port and expected to be greeted with candies and flowers. What a bunch of morons.
They went there to show Russia they can. And they did it. In Russia's face.
Kruger

Yekaterinburg, Russia

#7 Sep 2, 2008
Putin during his visit to Uzbekistan told that Russia will give an answer to NATO naval presence in Black Sea.
I agree. Why USA ships has to be in Black Sea, that is far off Bush Texas ranch?
And i wonder what an answer will be. To sink down some ships with new supersonic torpedo? But crews should not die. The guys serve to feed their families, they are not enemies.
Canuck

La Ronge, Canada

#8 Sep 2, 2008
Stefan wrote:
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They went there to show Russia they can. And they did it. In Russia's face.
It was very childish of them and cretainly didn't accomplish anything. It's called gunboat diplomocy, a circus act.
Neither the U.S. or NATO will fight Russia for Ukraine and the sooner that western puppet Yushchenko gets that through his thick skull, the better it will be for all of Ukraine.
Gutierrez

United States

#9 Sep 2, 2008
Canuck wrote:
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It was very childish of them and cretainly didn't accomplish anything. It's called gunboat diplomocy, a circus act.
Neither the U.S. or NATO will fight Russia for Ukraine and the sooner that western puppet Yushchenko gets that through his thick skull, the better it will be for all of Ukraine.
You are so sad! But what do I expect you are a dirty Candian!
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#10 Sep 2, 2008
Kruger wrote:
Putin during his visit to Uzbekistan told that Russia will give an answer to NATO naval presence in Black Sea.
I agree. Why USA ships has to be in Black Sea, that is far off Bush Texas ranch?
And i wonder what an answer will be. To sink down some ships with new supersonic torpedo? But crews should not die. The guys serve to feed their families, they are not enemies.
NATO patrols the Mediterranean and Black Seas because they have Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania as members.

Russia really has no business being in the Black Sea as she has a very small coast of it.
Canuck

La Ronge, Canada

#11 Sep 2, 2008
Gutierrez wrote:
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You are so sad! But what do I expect you are a dirty Candian!
LOL...The U.S. is a paper tiger without any substance. Showboating is all they can do. Always looking for a coalition of the willing to fight it's battles because it is too cowardly to look after is's own "interests". The American new world order is now officially challanged. Suck it up you retarded Yankee.
Kruger

Yekaterinburg, Russia

#12 Sep 2, 2008
Stefan wrote:
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Bye, bye Russian Black Sea Fleet in 2017. Ukraine no longer wants you.
Russian paratroops, welcome to Sask.
Canuck

La Ronge, Canada

#13 Sep 2, 2008
Stefan wrote:
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NATO patrols the Mediterranean and Black Seas because they have Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania as members.
Russia really has no business being in the Black Sea as she has a very small coast of it.
Being in NATO doesn't give them the exclusive right to be in the Mediterranean or the Black sea.
Russia has interests in the area that she must protect especially when everyone knows that NATO is a criminal organization and a war machine used by the U.S. to enforce it's foreign policies.
blackrabbit

Emmenbrucke, Switzerland

#14 Sep 2, 2008
Stefan wrote:
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They went there to show Russia they can. And they did it. In Russia's face.
And they had to back off after a day confronting a population that didn't want them to be there.

C'mon, if that sort of "propaganda-victories " is all the US can accomplish, things look even worse for them than I thought.
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#15 Sep 2, 2008
Canuck wrote:
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It was very childish of them and cretainly didn't accomplish anything. It's called gunboat diplomocy, a circus act.
Neither the U.S. or NATO will fight Russia for Ukraine and the sooner that western puppet Yushchenko gets that through his thick skull, the better it will be for all of Ukraine.
Ukrainians will fight for Ukraine. Thats they way it has always been and that the way it will continue to be. From the Princes of Kyiv to the Cossacks of the steps to the Ukrainian liberation army during WW2.

They all fought for a single reason, to preserve cultural identity and maintain independence and freedom.

Nothing has changed in this regard in over 500 years.
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#16 Sep 2, 2008
Kruger wrote:
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Russian paratroops, welcome to Sask.
Come, come.

We will feed them and let them have drink and send them home happy with their visit.
from Athens Greece EU

Athens, Greece

#17 Sep 2, 2008
Nobody wants the Americans
nobody wants NATO
blackrabbit

Emmenbrucke, Switzerland

#19 Sep 2, 2008
Stefan wrote:
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Ukrainians will fight for Ukraine.
If things blow up in Ukraine, it won't be the heroic fight for freedom against an evil external enemy but rather a civil war. And civil wars imply always the ugliest kind of warfare. Not Russia or the US will suffer in the first place, it will be the people living in Ukraine.

But since you seem to live in Canada, you don't have to care about that too much, do you?
Stefan

Saskatoon, Canada

#20 Sep 2, 2008
blackrabbit wrote:
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If things blow up in Ukraine, it won't be the heroic fight for freedom against an evil external enemy but rather a civil war. And civil wars imply always the ugliest kind of warfare. Not Russia or the US will suffer in the first place, it will be the people living in Ukraine.
But since you seem to live in Canada, you don't have to care about that too much, do you?
It will not be a civil war because Ukrainians don't want to fight each other. Ukrainians are peace loving people and fight only when there are no other choices.

I am talking about protecting oneself from a foreign power. Even Eastern ethnic Russians will defend themselves from a Russian foe who wants to take back what is no longer theirs.

“Hope for Best- Expect Worst”

Since: Jan 07

Somewhere in Colorado

#21 Sep 2, 2008
Canuck wrote:
Looks like the stench of the West is becoming too overwhelming for most of the people of the area.
Crimea will seek independece soon. I doesn't belong to Ukraine anyway.
The Ukrainian leadership is acting contrary to the will of the people. This is demockracy Ukrainian style.
At least the Ukainians are smart enough to realize that NATO is a tool of the USA in their seach for oil and gas which doesn't belong to them and they don't appreciate the USA encroaching on their territory, as they seek to bamboozle the Ukrainians into thinking NATO is good for them while they are only trying find a way to push their presence into the Black sea and the oil and gas goodies beyond. Now if they can remember NATOs role in balkanizing Yugoslavia.....

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