Feral cats make great mousers

Feral cats make great mousers

There are 11 comments on the Examiner.com story from Jun 14, 2011, titled Feral cats make great mousers. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Feral cats are just as deserving of a good home as cats who live with people. According to the Humane Society of the United States , feral cats are unsocialized cats who may be one or more generations removed from a home environment.A They often live in colonies/groups. These cats are the offspring of lost or abandoned pet cats, or other feral cats ...

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Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#1 Jun 15, 2011
If you want mousers, then do the RESPONSIBLE and INTELLIGENT thing. Encourage and befriend native predators that are much better suited to the task than disease-ridden, invasive-species cats which have no natural predators to keep them in check.
Encourage owls or gray-foxes to help you out. Gray foxes don't even eat poultry. And they climb trees to help keep squirrel populations in check.
Don't, for even one moment, fall for the song and dance about cat-lovers being animal-lovers, they are anything but that. They don't have ONE concern about any other animals nor even other humans. Cat-lovers are just like cats, the only thing they care about are themselves.
Their TNR (trap, neuter, release) programs are a dismal failure too. A smokescreen and time and money waster. Don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise. Do a search online for the truth about all TNR failures. Cats are an invasive species. Bred by man for manís purposes through selective-breeding, a form of genetic engineering. They are NOT an indigenous species anywhere on the planet today and have NO PLACE in nature. They have NO natural predators due to their bold patterns in their coats. ALL wildlife sees this as the universal symbol for toxic or olfactory defense mechanisms and won't go near them, even if starving. They have no more right to be out in the natural world than some genetically engineered insect that, if released out into nature, would destroy all wildlife. JUST AS CATS DO. A cat destroying wildlife is NO MORE NATURAL than if someone was raising piranha for pets and then dumping a tank of them into your bath with you in it, or in local swimming areas, or in your backyard pools. They deserve the same freedoms as cats, don't they? In fact, this would be even more natural, the piranha haven't been genetically engineered through selective breeding to make them unique from all other fishes.
These invasive-species cats that are released will still be decimating the food-chain for all native wildlife. If you feed a TNR cat-colony they kill even more wildlife. A well-fed cat kills more animals than a starving one. They don't stop killing other animals just because they're no longer hungry. The healthier they are the more they kill. It's what they do, it's what they are. Lousy little killing machines, nothing more.
It's not just the loss of bird populations either. Feral cats and farmers that let theirs roam free have decimated the natural food-chain in my woods. The resident foxes, owls, and other predator animals no longer had a food source. The feral cats destroyed all the smaller animals that all others depended on. The native species all starved to death. That's what cats do to ALL native animals.
There has also been research done to prove that cats are now spreading their potentially deadly Toxoplasma gondii parasite-disease to wildlife even in remote areas.
http://www.labspaces.net/view_news_comments.p...
When disposing of cat carcasses now, be sure to bury them deeply enough or incinerate them so no other wildlife can become infected by them from eating the cat-meat. Wear gloves while doing so to protect yourself as well. Women who are pregnant can have their child born with severe neural birth defects (microcephaly or hydrocephaly) or miscarry or be still-born; or those with compromised immune systems (taking anti-rejection medication for transplants and skin-grafts at ANY time during your lifetime) can be deadly if you have contracted this disease. People with HIV may not be able to be kept alive by drugs if they contract this cats' disease.
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Jun 15, 2011
I live where it is perfectly legal to defend your property and animals from destruction by others' animals. I lost count after dispatching the first 20 vermin with a good .22, outfitted with laser-sight and zoom rifle-scope. I didn't have to waste even one bullet, making this solution highly economical as well. 5000 rounds of .22's on sale for $15, that's 3 dead cats per penny! No further costs, ever. Think of how many dollars and hours of your lives that you have spent trapping, transporting, calling, complaining, restoring damaged property, et.al.... and still all the problems that these useless cat-lovers have caused remains. If your aim is good this is far more humane than methods that "humane" societies use. Instead of dying a slow death by animal-shelter methods they don't even know they've been shot. It is now the preferred method for disposing of feral cats in many states.(In fact, shooting is too good for them. By all rights, to make things perfectly even, they should be made to starve a slow death, just like they caused to all the predator wildlife. Or maimed with entrails hanging out to die a slow death, just like they did to all the prey they destroyed and never ate. But I'm not as inhumane as cat-lovers and their cats are.)

It's time to give cats and cat-lovers the same consideration and respect that they have for all humans and all wildlife--that means NONE. Don't waste your time arguing with disrespectful, inconsiderate, and ignorant cat-lovers either, as I stupidly tried to do for years. Just do what needs to be done and there'll be nothing to argue about.

This year owls and foxes have returned to my woods. Through a large effort of my own, including raising and releasing native mice and voles to help repopulate some of the species that their useless cats destroyed. Their lousy cats are finally gone. But I'll shoot again on first-sight the first chance I get. The rewards for ridding one's land of ALL cats and restoring the native wildlife population are far too great.

If you don't have approval from your local law enforcement like I did to fix the myriad problems that all "cat-lovers" have created for all of humanity and the world, then you might be interested in a far more effective cat management program than TNR. It's called SSS -- for Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-up. It's now popular worldwide and "legal" everywhere. It may be the only thing that saves us from this ecological disaster that all the spineless and ecologically-ignorant law-makers have created. The drastic problems that cat-lovers have created by their blatant disrespect and lack of consideration for their environment, all other humans, and all animals now requires drastic actions by all those who actually care. It takes real strength of heart to do the right thing.
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#3 Jun 15, 2011
Here's a little insight to help you further understand the root-cause of the problem. Now you'll know EXACTLY why cat-lovers do what they do. It really has nothing at all to do with their concern for cats, nor even the lives of anyone nor anything else, quite the opposite.

Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy

I have come to the inexorable conclusion that the vast majority of cat-lovers and cat-owners that let their destructive invasive-species roam free, and especially those that defend the rights of feral cats to overtake public property and wildlife areas, are only (cowardly) using cats as a proxy for their own territorial behavior. Not unlike uneducated inner-city youth that will disrespectfully and inconsiderately use loud music to stake-out a territory for themselves. As long as they can have one of their possessions defecate in another's yard or destroy their property, animals, and wildlife, and the yard-owner not have any recourse; the cat-owner owns that territory. It's time to put a stop to them using their "cute kitty" excuse for usurping and stealing others' property. If they want territory they can buy it just like anyone else. Instead they're using underhanded, disrespectful, and manipulative means. By putting (and sacrificing) live animals in the path of their envy and greed. Again proving why they don't care about cats nor anyone else at all. Cat-lovers only really want your lawn, yard, or forest while making all others and all other animals suffer for what they can't have nor own. Bottom line--they want to control you and your property. That's ALL that "cat-lovers" are really after. It's why they don't care at all if their cat nor any other animals, nor even other humans, get harmed by their goals and (lack of) values in life.

Since: May 11

Kiln, MS

#4 Jun 16, 2011
Your hatred is disgusting and I thank my lucky stars you are not my neighbor. Your hatred towards animals just because you cannot control them and your hatred towards other humans because you cannot relate to them. If you ever shot my cat, I would be liable to shoot you. It is true something needs to be done about the decline of native species... how about, oh say, STOP INTRODUCING NON-NATIVE SPECIES TO THE ENVIRONMENT! If the new species is not introduced, then it cannot effect the environment. It is not rocket science. Sadly the only way to fix some ecosystems is to remove the species which was introduced, so animals again suffer for man's mistakes. But cats are only an issue on islands and New Zealand and Australia, yet you try to act as if it is a global problem just because you dislike cats. It is humans like you who created the problems on the islands in the first place- people like you who show only hatred towards others and speak as though you own everything in nature with a high and mighty attitude. People like you who look down your noses at other people and creatures. Animals are not expendable nor are they play things for humans. Stop treating them as such. And stop singling out creatures in nature just because you dislike them. Next time you feel like shooting off about cats, look in the mirror first and ask yourself, "how have I harmed nature today?" Because if you are a consumer (and since you are typing on a computer, I know you are), then you harm nature every day. Congratulations! You are a member of the most invasive species on the planet! You are a hypocrite!
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#5 Jun 17, 2011
Your IGNORANCE AND SPINELESSNESS ARE DISGUSTING. Not only that, but you PROVE exactly what I said, you care more about your lousy fucking cats than you do about humans.

There is NOTHING natural about a cat destroying a bird nor any other native wildlife. Cats are an invasive species. Bred by man for manís purposes through selective-breeding, a form of genetic engineering. They are NOT an indigenous species anywhere on the planet today and have NO PLACE in nature. A cat killing ANY wildlife is no more natural than if someone raised piranha for pets and dumped a tank of them in your bath with you in it, or releasing them in your favorite swimming areas, or in all your neighbors' backyard pools. In fact, that would be even MORE natural than your POS cats destroying wildlife. At least the piranha weren't genetically engineered through selective breeding like all cats are today.(Are you people this amazingly stupid that you can't even comprehend this?)

They also have NO natural predators. No animals that *should* be predators of cats will even go near them. Bold stripes and patterns are a universal symbol to all wildlife EVERYWHERE, from insects, to all life in the ocean, to all life on land, that that animal is toxic or uses other hidden defense mechanisms. It's how animals have been able to remain in balance in the natural world. At least wildlife are honest with one another, unlike humans and their cats. It would take eons of adaptation before native species put them on their preferred prey list, and ONLY if cats all merged into one bland coat-pattern eventually, and ONLY if they didn't get sick from all the potentially deadly diseases that cats now carry too. Wildlife not eating cats might be the only thing that's saving wildlife from even faster mass-destruction by cats at this point.

Domestic-cats have no more right to be out in the natural world than some genetically engineered insect that, if released out into nature, would destroy all wildlife. JUST AS CATS DO.

If you delusional, misinformed, and misguided cat-lovers are going to talk about animal behavior and ecology in your pro-cat arguments, the very LEAST you could all do is go educate your ignorant selves to the true facts in this matter. How difficult can this be? Which part of the name "HOUSE-CAT" do you fools fail to comprehend? How old are any of you cat-lovers, really? Even three, four, and five-year-olds comprehend the meaning of those two words.
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#6 Jun 17, 2011
A little more info to help the rest of you understand the gravity of this worldwide cat-infestation and ecological disaster that we now all face.

Why TNR (trap, neuter, release) and Cat Advocates Even Exist ...

Toxoplasmosis: Behavioral changes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis#Be...

It has been found that Toxoplasma gondii parasite is capable of changing the brains of whatever organism it infests. In mice, they lose the fear of cats and are even attracted to cat-urine. Making the asexual portion of the Toxoplasma gondii parasite's life-cycle faster to complete in order to replicate more quickly into its sexual reproduction phase in all host cats. This loss of fear and apprehension manifesting itself in humans in a similar manner, even when common-sense tells them they should depend on that sense of fear or doubt for their own survival.

Here are other ways that this parasite have been known to alter the thinking patterns of humans: http://wildlifeprofessional.org/blog/...

I strongly suspect that it might even be responsible for all cat-lovers' wholly contradictory behavior of putting cats, all other animals, and even all humans in harm's-way through their adamant insistence of promoting TNR programs, just to ensure the survival and spread of more Toxoplasma gondii parasites throughout the food-chain and in more humans. They are, in effect, being controlled against all reason and common-sense by the very parasite that is reproducing in their cats.

Get tested for T. gondii if you are defending these invasive-species cats' lives. You're actually obeying parasites in your brain. You no longer think and reason like a human, ignoring all common-sense.

The stuff that sci-fi used to be made of comes to reality. Real-life "pod-people". They can't think nor reason beyond the need of ensuring the survival and proliferation of Toxoplasma gondii. It won't let those who are parasitized think for themselves, nor allow them to destroy itself.

Some further reading on the subject, "Toxoplasmosis and psychology: A game of cat and mouse"
http://www.economist.com/node/16271339... |hig|06-03-2010|editors_highli ghts
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#7 Jun 17, 2011
Tentencat wrote:
Your hatred is disgusting and I thank my lucky stars you are not my neighbor. Your hatred towards animals just because you cannot control them and your hatred towards other humans because you cannot relate to them. If you ever shot my cat, I would be liable to shoot you.
Wow, are you ever f***ing brain-dead. Thanks for proving EXACTLY what I said, that cat-lovers only care about themselves, they don't care at all about any other animals, even other humans.

Since: May 11

Kiln, MS

#8 Jun 17, 2011
I did not bother to read your responses to my post cause I have better things to do with my time than carry on an argument with someone who is only interested in spreading hate. Topix conveniently did not post my first response from yesterday. The previous paragraph was a continuance from a much longer post with scientific evidence that refuted your singling cats out. I would take the time to retype the my first post, if you was worth it. Now go look down your nose somewhere else spammer. Cats are part of nature. Every living creature is. Just because you dislike them and think of them as parasites does not automatically mean they have no part of nature. There were other people in history who have thought like you. They were known as nazis. I won't be responding to you anymore cause you clearly get pleasure out of getting a rise from people, and an argument is what you want though you've claimed otherwise... cause if you were truly tired of arguing, then you would be doing what you should do in the first place- stfu.
Woodsman

Santa Clara, CA

#9 Jun 18, 2011
Tentencat wrote:
I did not bother to read your responses to my post cause ....
'Cause ... that's the ONLY way that idiots like you can remain safe in your bliss of self-inflicted ignorance. Poke your own eyes out, hum with your fingers in your ears ... whatever way works, right? LOL!
I have better things to do with my time than carry on an argument with someone who is only interested in spreading hate.
Don't spread your piece-of-s*** cats around and there'll be no reason for anyone to hate them. People "hate" cats BECAUSE OF A**HOLES LIKE YOU! Got it?

For the record, I don't hate cats at all. They are perfectly fine animals when permanently kept indoors where they damn well belong. The moment they step outside, then I HATE THE OWNER for allowing their piece-of-s*** killing-machine out into the natural world to destroy anything in its path. Because THEN I have to kill the damn thing. I don't like having to kill any animal, even cats, but F***HEADS LIKE YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE.
Topix conveniently did not post my first response from yesterday. The previous paragraph was a continuance from a much longer post with scientific evidence that refuted your singling cats out.
Oh, is this the part where morons like you throw everything including the kitchen sink into the cause? I've seen you a**wipes do that a thousand times. Your way of piling on all the red-herrings that you can so that NONE OF YOU WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DISASTER THAT YOU CREATED WITH *YOUR* LOUSY CATS.
I would take the time to retype the my first post, if you was worth it. Now go look down your nose somewhere else spammer. Cats are part of nature. Every living creature is.
Oh, what the hell, let's repeat the important information for this moron just one more time. Let's see what happens....

There is NOTHING natural about a cat destroying a bird nor any other native wildlife. Cats are an invasive species. Bred by man for manís purposes through selective-breeding, a form of genetic engineering. They are NOT an indigenous species anywhere on the planet today and have NO PLACE in nature. A cat killing ANY wildlife is no more natural than if someone raised piranha for pets and dumped a tank of them in your bath with you in it, or releasing them in your favorite swimming areas, or in all your neighbors' backyard pools. In fact, that would be even MORE natural than your POS cats destroying wildlife. At least the piranha weren't genetically engineered through selective breeding like all cats are today.(Are you people this amazingly stupid that you can't even comprehend this?)

They also have NO natural predators. No animals that *should* be predators of cats will even go near them. Bold stripes and patterns are a universal symbol to all wildlife EVERYWHERE, from insects, to all life in the ocean, to all life on land, that that animal is toxic or uses other hidden defense mechanisms. It's how animals have been able to remain in balance in the natural world. At least wildlife are honest with one another, unlike humans and their cats. It would take eons of adaptation before native species put them on their preferred prey list, and ONLY if cats all merged into one bland coat-pattern eventually, and ONLY if they didn't get sick from all the potentially deadly diseases that cats now carry too. Wildlife not eating cats might be the only thing that's saving wildlife from even faster mass-destruction by cats at this point.

Domestic-cats have no more right to be out in the natural world than some genetically engineered insect that, if released out into nature, would destroy all wildlife. JUST AS CATS DO.
There were other people in history who have thought like you. They were known as nazis.
OH LOOK! The moron cat-cĶnt-licker conceded that it already lost the argument! See: "Godwin's Rule"
LOL!!!!
STINKCAT

Fleet, UK

#10 Jun 18, 2011
Woodsman wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, are you ever f***ing brain-dead. Thanks for proving EXACTLY what I said, that cat-lovers only care about themselves, they don't care at all about any other animals, even other humans.
You must like making an ar**hole of yourself
Woodsman

Pipestone, MN

#11 Jun 19, 2011
If it's illegal worldwide to torture animals using any method (bullfighters seem exempt), then why are cat-owners allowed to torture ALL wildlife with their cats? Cats don't just kill wildlife humanely (like one can kill a feral cat with a well-aimed bullet), cats torture any animal to play with it while it's still alive and twitching with its entrails hanging out. It seems that the longer they can keep an animal alive the more enjoyment that cats get out of it. Shouldn't outdoor-cat owners and all TNR groups be charged with this crime of animal-cruelty, fined heavily, and all of them serving severe jail sentences? There seems to be a drastic double-standard going on. They may not be torturing other animals with baseball-bats or other weapons in their hands, but their cats are just as much a tool of theirs.

Would a dog owner be fined with the crime of animal-cruelty if they continually let their dog attack other animals? Of course, and it's already happened, many times. Fined and convicted. It's in the news often.

This drastic double-standard needs to be corrected. With the fines that all cat-owners and TNR groups would have to pay we'd have the money to clean up this ecological disaster they created. Think of all the new jails that would have to be built to house them all too, all the new jobs. We could turn this ecological disaster into an economic recovery by finally making some use of useless cat-lovers.

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