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'Sweepstakes' games violate gambling law, judge says | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 16 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Feb 10, 2011, titled 'Sweepstakes' games violate gambling law, judge says | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Franklin County law-enforcement officials will ask businesses that operate so-called "sweepstakes" machines to remove them, after a judge ruled yesterday that the devices violate Ohio law.

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herman

Columbus, OH

#1 Feb 10, 2011
About time that someone determined the truth behind this racket.
PLBH

Columbus, OH

#2 Feb 10, 2011
I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM, LOTTERY IS GAMBLING, BINGO IS GAMBLING, KENO IS GAMBLING, AND THE STATE HAVE CASINO'S COMING IN SI WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL. LEAVE THE SWEEPSTEAKS
CAFE'S OPEN IT KEEPS THE MONEY IN OHIO AND NOT TAKEN TO WEST VIRGINIA, INDIANA, OR MICHIGAN.
Citizen

United States

#3 Feb 10, 2011
It's amaizing how much the State is spending trying to prosecute these gaming parlors...The laws are muted and the Judges and authorities are making up new rules along the way without Legislation.. The State is broke and instead of looking at these places as immoral the State should realize theres some money to be made here in terms of taxes..It's ok for the State to gamble. And I have played lotto's for years and never won. At least I feel when I have played Sweepstakes or games of Skill. I have had better odds. Whats more fair for the community?
North Campus

Columbus, OH

#4 Feb 10, 2011
PLBH wrote:
I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM, LOTTERY IS GAMBLING, BINGO IS GAMBLING, KENO IS GAMBLING, AND THE STATE HAVE CASINO'S COMING IN SI WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL. LEAVE THE SWEEPSTEAKS
CAFE'S OPEN IT KEEPS THE MONEY IN OHIO AND NOT TAKEN TO WEST VIRGINIA, INDIANA, OR MICHIGAN.
The voters of Ohio need to amend the state's constitution to allow that type of gambling.
Susan683

Springfield, OH

#5 Feb 10, 2011
What's a 'legitimate sweepstakes machine'? These internet cafes are all over Ohio, I thought that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, It's a duck!
Balls Deep

Columbus, OH

#6 Feb 10, 2011
Looks like Penn National is clearing out the competition before opening up for business.
rockettraveller

Las Vegas, NV

#7 Feb 10, 2011
North Campus wrote:
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The voters of Ohio need to amend the state's constitution to allow that type of gambling.
It is already legal to have a sweepstakes machine that sells a product.If you read the ruling Spinners was not offering any product.
CSD

Dublin, OH

#8 Feb 10, 2011
So is the Ohio Lottery. Scams, they are all scams...shut them down now !!!!
dph43

Mentor, OH

#9 Feb 10, 2011
hey rockettraveller how did you get a copy of the ruling that fast?
you have no idea

Westlake, OH

#10 Feb 10, 2011
rockettraveller wrote:
<quoted text> It is already legal to have a sweepstakes machine that sells a product.If you read the ruling Spinners was not offering any product.
Maybe you should of went in to spinners they did offer product. So therefore shows you that you don't know everything get your facts straight before you accuse.
herman

Columbus, OH

#11 Feb 11, 2011
Citizen wrote:
It's amaizing how much the State is spending trying to prosecute these gaming parlors...The laws are muted and the Judges and authorities are making up new rules along the way without Legislation.. The State is broke and instead of looking at these places as immoral the State should realize theres some money to be made here in terms of taxes..It's ok for the State to gamble. And I have played lotto's for years and never won. At least I feel when I have played Sweepstakes or games of Skill. I have had better odds. Whats more fair for the community?
With the way that these places operate - there is no revenue to the state. Shucks, you could even avoid paying income taxes on your 'winnings'.
Cleveland Observer

Cleveland, OH

#12 Feb 11, 2011
herman wrote:
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With the way that these places operate - there is no revenue to the state. Shucks, you could even avoid paying income taxes on your 'winnings'.
All the state would have to do is make a gaming license, which is what many cities ended up doing. The city gaming license that I'm aware of was about $30,000/year, and then there is an additional tax per computer. The cities were certainly fine with this, which is part of the reason many sweepstakes cafes opened up all over.

And in following the IRS code, any winnings over $600 must be claimed by the recipient. With the popular VS2 software that was run on these computers, if anybody won any amount over $599, the winner's full name, address, and social security number were needed to collect the cash. At the end of the year, both the IRS and the winner are sent a 1099 - the same tax form that contractors get when they do project work.

There wasn't a need to just shut everyone down. At least we had businesses up and running. This just fuels the assumption that Ohio isn't a good state for business.
Jim Randall

Steubenville, OH

#13 Feb 11, 2011
rockettraveller wrote:
<quoted text> It is already legal to have a sweepstakes machine that sells a product.If you read the ruling Spinners was not offering any product.
Is there an online link available to read the opinion? I would love to see it.

Thanks!
Cleveland Observer

Chardon, OH

#14 Feb 11, 2011
Jim Randall wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there an online link available to read the opinion? I would love to see it.
Thanks!
Jim,

You're right, they do offer a product. The "product" is usually counted as the internet time purchased, which is why many of the cafes are considered retail. Some, however, are rezoned as a gaming center.
big boss

United States

#15 Jul 10, 2011
it is ok to spend your pay check at the bar get drunk drive kill someone but not to go to game rooms my money i will spend the why i want to or ts that right taken away to
Mark Skidmark

Spring Hill, FL

#16 Jul 10, 2011
I've never been able to sit down at a poker table without constantly farting.
It helps to distract other players at the table.

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