Can Ohio sustain all these casinos?

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Ohio Wrangler

Mogadore, OH

#1 Oct 7, 2012
All of the Ohio casinos surrounded by other states gambling facilities reminds me of the big box stores. They all crowd into an area where one was doing great--and they all must share in the sales.
I voted NO then YES

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Oct 7, 2012
Westside's problem.
Tim

West Salem, OH

#3 Oct 7, 2012
Let the market decide, though why anyone gambles is beyond me. It is a tax on the stupid.
Tim

West Salem, OH

#5 Oct 7, 2012
yeah baby wrote:
Hmmm. Wonder if Patel got his cousin Apu Nahasapeennapretelan a gig in the gift shop?
No seriously, looks like Detroit is just roaring to prosperity....it has THREE casinos!!!!
Detroit would probably be worse off without the casinos and their tax revenue, the city's leaders would have constructed "reeducation camps" on the vacant lots and shaken down every citizen that came in there, then sold their organs on the black market.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#7 Oct 7, 2012
Tim wrote:
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Detroit would probably be worse off without the casinos and their tax revenue, the city's leaders would have constructed "reeducation camps" on the vacant lots and shaken down every citizen that came in there, then sold their organs on the black market.
BLACK market? In Detroit? Was that supposed to be a pun?
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#8 Oct 7, 2012
I voted NO then YES wrote:
Westside's problem.
The casino will do just fine. If not, we'll have a nice, new, marble fronted flea market or charter school.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#11 Oct 7, 2012
Other than the lottery, I don't gamble. I never stepped foot into the new Cleveland casino hand have no plans to.

Before the casino law passed, people who went to casinos in our surrounding states say that the parking lots are usually filled with cars that have Ohio license plates on them. If these casinos do anything, it will help keep Ohio money in Ohio, and that can't be a bad thing.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#12 Oct 7, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
Other than the lottery, I don't gamble. I never stepped foot into the new Cleveland casino hand have no plans to.
Before the casino law passed, people who went to casinos in our surrounding states say that the parking lots are usually filled with cars that have Ohio license plates on them. If these casinos do anything, it will help keep Ohio money in Ohio, and that can't be a bad thing.
I'd like to go to the casino more to see how they redid the old Higbees than anything else.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#13 Oct 7, 2012
What's always amazing to me is how if you drive by the Scioto Downs casino at any given time during the day, the parking lot is almost always 2/3 full.

I understand going to the casino as a night time event, but really now? Doesn't gambling in broad daylight sound as desperate as having booze for breakfast?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14 Oct 7, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I'd like to go to the casino more to see how they redid the old Higbees than anything else.
According to my cousin, don't waste your time at the Cleveland casino. Toledo's casino is worth the drive. I understand it's ten times better than the one we have here.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#15 Oct 7, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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According to my cousin, don't waste your time at the Cleveland casino. Toledo's casino is worth the drive. I understand it's ten times better than the one we have here.
The Toledo and Columbus casinos are going to be exactly the same as the one in Lawrenceburg except not on a boat. They're all Hollywood brand so I suspect walking into one versus the other will be about the same difference as walking into the Reynoldsburg Walmart versus the Canal Winchester store.

I've been to Lawrenceburg so I really have no interest in going unless I have visitors or someone else I'm forced to entertain. I may pop into the Scioto Downs casino at some point just to see what it looks like inside.

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#16 Oct 7, 2012
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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I'd like to go to the casino more to see how they redid the old Higbees than anything else.
That's where they put the Cleveland Casino?

Good news/bad news

Bad news, it puts all the associated crime and ugliness (pawn/loan shops, prostitution, petty theft, drugs) right in the middle of downtown.

Good news--they didn't tear anything down to build it and when it is an obvious failure they can just clear it out and repurpose the building, again.

I wonder if they kept all the Art Deco decor in the Silver Grille?

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#18 Oct 7, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
What's always amazing to me is how if you drive by the Scioto Downs casino at any given time during the day, the parking lot is almost always 2/3 full.
I understand going to the casino as a night time event, but really now? Doesn't gambling in broad daylight sound as desperate as having booze for breakfast?
Yep--an addiction is an addiction.

Ever hear about kids left in the cars in the parking lots?

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#19 Oct 7, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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According to my cousin, don't waste your time at the Cleveland casino. Toledo's casino is worth the drive. I understand it's ten times better than the one we have here.
Just curious, what makes a good casino?

Nice chairs? No waiting? Free drinks?

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#20 Oct 7, 2012
Want casinos to thrive in Ohio? Call your congressmen and get them to sponsor a repeal of the Bradley Act.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#21 Oct 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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That's where they put the Cleveland Casino?
Good news/bad news
Bad news, it puts all the associated crime and ugliness (pawn/loan shops, prostitution, petty theft, drugs) right in the middle of downtown.
Good news--they didn't tear anything down to build it and when it is an obvious failure they can just clear it out and repurpose the building, again.
I wonder if they kept all the Art Deco decor in the Silver Grille?
Yeah, but those geniuses in Cleveland are the ones who gave us the lottery and gave us gambling.

Since casinos surround Ohio, this was a tough call. Generally, I'm against it because it's a waste of money that would be going elsewhere in the economy. On the other hand, when you read about the hundreds of millions of dollars going into the coffers of other states, and a big chunk of it coming from Ohio, I can see why we needed to keep the money home.

No sense in lowering PA's tax burden with Ohio money.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#22 Oct 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
B<quoted text>
That's where they put the Cleveland Casino?
Good news/bad news
Bad news, it puts all the associated crime and ugliness (pawn/loan shops, prostitution, petty theft, drugs) right in the middle of downtown.
Good news--they didn't tear anything down to build it and when it is an obvious failure they can just clear it out and repurpose the building, again.
I wonder if they kept all the Art Deco decor in the Silver Grille?
As usual, Cleveland F'd up again. Do you know how many cities would kill for a lakefront? Not Cleveland. Our lakefront looks like something from a scary movie. We have an airport that hardly anybody uses, and then there are those ugly buildings that look like barracks or something next to the marina.

What they should have done is start clearing out that property and put the casino on the lake. Then you would have something to brag about. But no, just bury it downtown or something and put up a bunch of speed cameras.

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#23 Oct 7, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Yeah, but those geniuses in Cleveland are the ones who gave us the lottery and gave us gambling.
Since casinos surround Ohio, this was a tough call. Generally, I'm against it because it's a waste of money that would be going elsewhere in the economy. On the other hand, when you read about the hundreds of millions of dollars going into the coffers of other states, and a big chunk of it coming from Ohio, I can see why we needed to keep the money home.
No sense in lowering PA's tax burden with Ohio money.
Yeah, but once we reach saturation--which is where we seem to be now, don't look for it to be pulling in out of state dollars to any great extent. And the social costs are real.

I would imagine in another 10 years or so the surviving casinos on any great scale will be in places like Atlantic City and Las Vegas, where they have build an entire tourist industry around it. All the rest is going to look more like those neighborhood "internet cafes," nothing more than seedy establishments that bleed the truly involved and maybe a few local recreational gamblers.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#24 Oct 7, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Just curious, what makes a good casino?
Nice chairs? No waiting? Free drinks?
That I couldn't tell you. Perhaps a place where you don't have to worry about getting robbed.

Cleveland was nationally famous for the flats. People came from all around to experience it. But they let that go to hell because the police couldn't keep the place safe. Then they allowed these bars to start selling cheap drinks that attracted the punk kids and then it was a night at the fights. Nobody felt safe.

I remember watching the news one night and they had a story on how the cops were setting up sobriety check points. There were only a few ways to enter the flats, so if you were drinking, you were a sitting duck. It was that night I predicted the end of the flats, and sure as ship, I was right.

Of course we can attribute the fall of the flats to MADD. They were the jerk-offs who pressed the city to start getting down on drunk drives in the flats.

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#25 Oct 7, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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As usual, Cleveland F'd up again. Do you know how many cities would kill for a lakefront? Not Cleveland. Our lakefront looks like something from a scary movie. We have an airport that hardly anybody uses, and then there are those ugly buildings that look like barracks or something next to the marina.
What they should have done is start clearing out that property and put the casino on the lake. Then you would have something to brag about. But no, just bury it downtown or something and put up a bunch of speed cameras.
Well, having grown up in Cleveland, the lakefront has always been something of a joke. Been years since I've seen it, but Erie has never been Michigan, and Cleveland's lakefront doesn't campare to Chicago's--even you clear stuff out so it can be seen.

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