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Airport pat-downs in America are nothing more than unsupervised feel-ups, and there are already reports of violations with the full-body X-ray scans being stored and viewed by airport co-workers, something the new Transportation Security Administration director refuses to discuss. Full Story
Check my junk

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#1 Nov 24, 2010
TSA can check my package if I can select which 27 year- old blond gets to perform the honors.
To All Travellers

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Nov 24, 2010
Perhaps that's the new trick,
our travel-industry invented.
Check my junk wrote:
TSA can check my package if I can select which 27 year- old blond gets to perform the honors.
Local Boyz

Torrance, CA

#3 Nov 24, 2010
Check my junk wrote:
TSA can check my package if I can select which 27 year- old blond gets to perform the honors.
I've seen those people and there are now 27 year old blondes.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#4 Nov 24, 2010
1) TSA isn't "Security" its a "jobs" program. Read the comments by Jane Harmon etc about its inception.

2) Bureaucrats are the terrorists allies (or weapon of choice). All the terrorist has to do is appear to initiate some sort of action, the bureaucracy responds because it has to or appear to be impotent and lose an justification for existance, and hurts the citizens more than the terrorists could have done by themselves.(I know it was a complex sentence, but work on it.)

Bureaucracy cannot defeat terrorism. Bureaucracy can only defeat "law abiding" citizens.

TSA can't do any better, it must be replaced by something that can. Most career government employees can't even imagine an effective replacement.

The current mess hinges has its basis in the stupid idea that "things are bad, not people". We are looking for "bad things" not "bad people".(Do you think that might be the result of allowing "bad people" to be in positions of power in the government?)

Simple answer this week: Don't Fly If they expand it to trains, don't train. Don't Bus. Janet & Pistole will do Bin Laden's work for him.
Neil Proffitt

Redondo Beach, CA

#5 Nov 24, 2010
A protester's job is to gum up the works. If people not sympathetic to their cause are inconvenienced, tough doo-doo.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#6 Nov 24, 2010
Neil Proffitt wrote:
A protester's job is to gum up the works. If people not sympathetic to their cause are inconvenienced, tough doo-doo.
So Neil what's the difference between a "protestor" and a "terrorist"?

Both are fringe loonies who want to "gum up the works"
not saying

Irvine, CA

#7 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>So Neil what's the difference between a "protestor" and a "terrorist"?
Both are fringe loonies who want to "gum up the works"
Seriously, is that a real question? Please!
Neil Proffitt

Redondo Beach, CA

#8 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>So Neil what's the difference between a "protestor" and a "terrorist"?
Both are fringe loonies who want to "gum up the works"
In this context, airport security, a protester wants to peacefully, albeit infuriatingly, change the way TSA searches passengers for contraband. A terrorist wants to blow up the whole place. That too would bring change but not peacefully. That's the difference, Cowboy.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#9 Nov 24, 2010
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Neil Proffitt wrote:
<quoted text> In this context, airport security, a protester wants to peacefully, albeit infuriatingly, change the way TSA searches passengers for contraband. A terrorist wants to blow up the whole place. That too would bring change but not peacefully. That's the difference, Cowboy.
Ah, so you contend that the difference is just in the amount of the damage. Just "gumming up the works" is "peaceful" so that's ok, but "blowing up the building" isn't.

So the money and time stolen from the people caught in the "gum" is irrelevant.

I disagree. I think both the "protestor" and the "terrorist" are on the same side of the ledger. One maybe a misdemeanor while the other is a felony, but both are wrong.

The best protest on this deal is not to fly. Cutting the budgets and actually insiting on some rational performance standards are way to esoteric for mondern America.
Steve H

Torrance, CA

#10 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>So Neil what's the difference between a "protestor" and a "terrorist"?
Both are fringe loonies who want to "gum up the works"
And so?
Steve H

Torrance, CA

#11 Nov 24, 2010
Hey, the more people who want to protest the scans by staying home, the better. Think the TSA screeners are in it for the thrills? Uh-uh. They have what's got to be one of the worst jobs in America right now. Go to your local Wal-Mart (or mall, or anyplace crowds gather). Look at the first 100 people you see and imagine having to pat them down, or look at scans of their bodies. Thinking you'd be the one to get all the 'cute' ones is right up there with thinking that for sure THIS time you'll be sitting next to someone really atractive and interesting on the flight, which is to say, dream on.
Neil Proffitt

Redondo Beach, CA

#12 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
s<quoted text>Ah, so you contend that the difference is just in the amount of the damage. Just "gumming up the works" is "peaceful" so that's ok, but "blowing up the building" isn't.
So the money and time stolen from the people caught in the "gum" is irrelevant.
I disagree. I think both the "protestor" and the "terrorist" are on the same side of the ledger. One maybe a misdemeanor while the other is a felony, but both are wrong.
The best protest on this deal is not to fly. Cutting the budgets and actually insiting on some rational performance standards are way to esoteric for mondern America.
That ten gallon hat of yours is too tight, Cowboy. Peacefully "gumming up the works" and "blowing up the whole place" are not comparable protests. The peaceful protester and the violent terrorist are not on the same side.
bev

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Nov 24, 2010
one can just imagine the laughter - and sense of success -'round terrorists campsites at the 24/7 cable coverage of feel ups and tsa defending itself (and $100M spent) to catch a duplicate underwear bomber. or shoe lighter.

does tsa really believe that al qaida followers will do exactly what tsa is expecting?

one would hope the new director REALLY has got something more original going on behind the scene(s)- and that these xrays and personal feel ups are just a front. if you'll pardon the expression.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#15 Nov 24, 2010
Neil Proffitt wrote:
<quoted text> That ten gallon hat of yours is too tight, Cowboy. Peacefully "gumming up the works" and "blowing up the whole place" are not comparable protests. The peaceful protester and the violent terrorist are not on the same side.
"are not comparable protests"

Funny, in your mind they are both "protests" you just don't want to "compare" them.

Bev's got it right, somewhere Osama & co are sitting around laughing their **s off while Janet and Pistole try to hump the leg of everyone who walks in the door. And the real wingnuts are trying to rationalize why being groped by a bunch of union flaks is a good thing.

Niel, you are a good example of the reason this stupidity is going on. You "protestors" are really just low grade terrorists and anyone with half a brain can see that. And if we actually crack down on real terrorists, what do we do about the ones with training wheels.
Neil Proffitt

Redondo Beach, CA

#16 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>"are not comparable protests"
Funny, in your mind they are both "protests" you just don't want to "compare" them.
Bev's got it right, somewhere Osama & co are sitting around laughing their **s off while Janet and Pistole try to hump the leg of everyone who walks in the door. And the real wingnuts are trying to rationalize why being groped by a bunch of union flaks is a good thing.
Niel, you are a good example of the reason this stupidity is going on. You "protestors" are really just low grade terrorists and anyone with half a brain can see that. And if we actually crack down on real terrorists, what do we do about the ones with training wheels.
Drawing parallels with benign protesters (I'm not one) and terrorists (I'm not one) is absurd. But I've come to expect nothing less from you, Cowboy.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#17 Nov 24, 2010
Neil Proffitt wrote:
<quoted text> Drawing parallels with benign protesters (I'm not one) and terrorists (I'm not one) is absurd. But I've come to expect nothing less from you, Cowboy.
"benign protesters" and then you accuse someone else of being "absurd".

Protestors aren't ever "benign". You yourself drew the connection.

There is this little subculture of subversion, a cottage industry of treason, which prevents some sort of rational and effective solutions to our ills.

That's not to say that there aren't serious problems which will require serious effort to redress. But it's as much about the how as the why of it.

The terrorists are bad and our government doesn't seem to be effectively dealing with the problem. Part of the reason they don't, is our institutionalized subculture of "protestors". Everone except maybe the terrorists and their friends and family want them stopped, quickly, effectively and without any damage to the bystanders.

Good street cops, a fraction of the army of unionized neer-do-wells who sport badges, can identify by looking the people who ought to be searched or more carefully inspected. The mechanical deal of harassing everyone "equally" is dumb. It is a concept born from a love of "process" not "results". We can't afford to value "process" over "results".

If anyone thinks that these TSA types are really paying attention to catching "terrorists" you're out of your mind. Sentry duty is one of the toughest things in the world because of the boredom. And with all of the other sillyness attendent on searching everyone who comes in the door, the limited attention of the TSA people is now really diluted.

TSA is pure wasted money and effort. We are doing it to provide jobs, union memberships and avoid the appearance of being politically incorrect.
Visiting Cowboy

Menifee, CA

#18 Nov 24, 2010
And maybe the worst reason for it is to provide "governance" and "control" of the population.

Since: Dec 09

Harbor City, CA

#19 Nov 24, 2010
Visiting Cowboy wrote:
<quoted text>"are not comparable protests"
Funny, in your mind they are both "protests" you just don't want to "compare" them.
Bev's got it right, somewhere Osama & co are sitting around laughing their **s off while Janet and Pistole try to hump the leg of everyone who walks in the door. And the real wingnuts are trying to rationalize why being groped by a bunch of union flaks is a good thing.
Niel, you are a good example of the reason this stupidity is going on. You "protestors" are really just low grade terrorists and anyone with half a brain can see that. And if we actually crack down on real terrorists, what do we do about the ones with training wheels.
You're both missing the key point. How many terrorists have TSA spotted/captured using their "methods". The answer is ZERO (as in none).

Look, the terrorists (aka muslim radicals) can chalk up a win on their side. They have us groping each other or absorbing xrays out of fear. Meanwhile, not a single terrorist even has to show up in a line someplace. Not one!

Its always like this with bureaucracies. While they inspect our junk, the terrorists are probably coming in via the open borders (north and south). Its not like the border guards are even stopping illegals or drugs.
el redondo

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Nov 24, 2010
Why are they not groping and scanning the packages that go into cargo holds of passenger jets?
To el Redondo

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Nov 24, 2010
el redondo wrote:
Why are they not groping and scanning the packages that go into cargo holds of passenger jets?
That's not the purpose of the game: we just want to humiliate "the People...," aka the free and brave!

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