Jim Ragsdale: Rational health care, n...

Jim Ragsdale: Rational health care, not rationed

There are 2 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 10, 2009, titled Jim Ragsdale: Rational health care, not rationed. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

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Minneapolis, MN

#1 Dec 10, 2009
No free market solution can or should cover pre-existing conditions. How can you "insure" health anyway? It is an oximoron statement.

We have the best health care in the world. If you are penniless you can go into great emergency rooms around the country AND NOT BE DENIED CARE.

Depending on your financial circumstance you will then either be considered indigent and have it waived, or get on some payment plan to cover it.

A pre-existing condition cannot be "insured" because it has already happened and trying to do something like that will bankrupt the system and drive it to a government solution...which will be far worse in terms of quality of care and ultimately (due to rationing) in terms of extent of care.

Sorry...in life people get sick and die. We are not going to stop that. A free market solution means the most people will get the best care. Just like it has meant that the most people will rise in their economic standing and create the envy of th world when it comes to standard of living and individual wealth.

That is really what this debate is about. The socialists and marxists wanting to foist control on the economy and destroy the free market.

The entire idea of insurance is that you can assess the risk of an event in a pool of people who are paying premiums.
As soon as you say that somebody gets to wait until AFTER they have an event to join the pool, you are no longer talking about something rational.

Irrationality is the sole province of government.

“Pre-existing conditions" is a straw-man argument any way because current law forbids insurance companies from denying coverage after one year of the condition treatment...see Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA)
Grayout Davis

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Dec 10, 2009
A pocket full of miracles - Having faith in a never ending benefit stream


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi demonstrated last week that she is a master at the poetic art of haiku -- the Japanese poem form...Regarding her party's health care bill, the California Democrat crafted the following haiku to assure the Blue Dog Democrats that they can tell their voters: "You have a cap on your costs, but not on your benefits."

In just two lines of 14 syllables, the speaker encapsulated the illogic inherent in the Democratic health care bills. It is a compound proposition that is always untrue for all possible combinations of the true value of its components. Under the Democratic bill, benefits will go up forever, but miraculously, the costs of those ever-increasing benefits will never go up even a cent...This is a miracle to match the Lord's provision of loaves and fishes...

Of course, the speaker might retort, it was easy for Jesus because there was no Congressional Budget Office 2,000 years ago. And the CBO has outlawed miracles. If the miracle had been scored by CBO: Five thousand men plus 5,000 women plus 12,000 children (2.4 children per man and woman) at five persons per loaf and three persons to a fish would require 4,400 loaves at $1 per loaf and 7,333 1/3 fish at $1.50 a fish. Total one-day cost of miracle:$11,001... daily annualized rate:$4,015,365. Ten-year budget, no inflation or increase in benefit class:$40,153,650...

Obviously, the health care legislation being developed by Democratic all comes down to faith.

While Republicans speak of their faith, the speaker might say, when it comes to providing health care for all the American people, all they can talk about are taxes and costs -- they are of little faith...

more at washingtontimes.com ...


Sounds a lot like Gray Davis's energy plan in Kalifornia a few years back. That didn't work out so well either. Consumers' prices were capped, but the producers had to provide electricity to the consumers at those capped prices regardless of how much it cost them to get the energy into the power grid. The predictable result was "rationing" in the form of rolling blackouts - or "Grayouts".

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