Cops and Courts: June 30, 2010

Cops and Courts: June 30, 2010

There are 37 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jun 30, 2010, titled Cops and Courts: June 30, 2010. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

A man arrested over the weekend for allegedly breaking into a downtown anarchist collective will not be prosecuted because the leaders of SubRosa Cafe requested no burglary charges be filed against him, the District Attorney's Office reported Tuesday.

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MR CARBON

San Antonio, TX

#1 Jun 30, 2010
A dollar in a robbery. I guess he wasn't on his way to a MENSA meeting.Fortunately,no one was hurt.
yesterdays news

Richmond, CA

#2 Jun 30, 2010
there is nothing new here today.
SC Native2

Brisbane, CA

#4 Jun 30, 2010
The police have no legal obligation to protect SubRosa and its property if the owners don't want to participate. As far as I am concerned let the criminal element have them.
lol

Lafayette, CA

#5 Jun 30, 2010
stab o meter?
Ex Liberal

United States

#8 Jun 30, 2010
Welcome to LIBERAL Land home of the failed Marxist-Socialist Liberal Progressive mentality of failed social experimentation!
Leonten

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Jun 30, 2010
Here's my thought. If Subrosa wants their equipment back, they're going to have to cooperate with the police who have possession of their equipment. The police are going to require Subrosa to identify the equipment (In writing?). If they do, the police can provide the DA with the information and file the charges. Then the court will let him go, for time served.
Ex Liberal

United States

#10 Jun 30, 2010
Lavender wrote:
Wow, pardon my sarcastic exaggeration but does this mean I can heave a Molotov cocktail through their window and not fear prosecution?
Only if you are a card carrying, life long member of the Leftist anarchist mentality similar to those who patronize Subrosa or support the likes of Obama's little anarchist communist buddy, William Ayers, co founder of the Weather Underground!
Brother Bri

United States

#13 Jun 30, 2010
Leonten wrote:
Here's my thought. If Subrosa wants their equipment back, they're going to have to cooperate with the police who have possession of their equipment. The police are going to require Subrosa to identify the equipment (In writing?). If they do, the police can provide the DA with the information and file the charges. Then the court will let him go, for time served.
Hope the police look for evidence of possible crimes on the equipment before they return it. I assume they don't want to press charges for selfish reasons. This place should be shut down before every criminal comes to take EVERYTHING they have...maybe not...HA HA!!
EVIDENCE

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Jun 30, 2010
If they had enough evidence to arrest him in the first place then why does anyone have to press charges???? This isn't an assualt case, they need no witnesses! They caught him red handed. They don't need subrosa's permission to press charges! stupid stupid stupid
Kinda makes me wonder

Mountain View, CA

#16 Jun 30, 2010
In a written statement, SubRosa representatives said the break-in was "a bit of an inconvenience."

"We see this as another symptom of capitalism -- some people have nothing and feel desperate enough to break in to spaces that also, it turns out this time, have nothing. Crimes against property are driven by poverty and desperation. We have no desire for police in our community and will not be working with them in this case, except to recover our property," the statement read."

These people are actually capitalizing off public discontent and morbid publicity, while claiming capitalism is the problem. Sound like normal marketing to me.

As far as the impoverished victim/perp dude is concerned, we save the county money by not housing him in the slammer. I say let him keep SubRosas laptop and sign him up at Cabrillo.

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#17 Jun 30, 2010
"Crimes against property are driven by poverty and desperation."

And poverty and desperation are driven by poor choices and laziness, not capitalism. However, capitalism is less tolerant of this type of lifestyle than is socialism . Which is why it is so popular with the subculture set.
pandorabox

Oakland, CA

#18 Jun 30, 2010
Carl Bendix wrote:
"Crimes against property are driven by poverty and desperation."
And poverty and desperation are driven by poor choices and laziness, not capitalism. However, capitalism is less tolerant of this type of lifestyle than is socialism . Which is why it is so popular with the subculture set.
poverty is driven by many thing, corruption in the mind and heart is a different matter, see> we can be poor per se but we can still have values and behave in a honorable and rightful way. what is lose here is the dignity the honor and personal pride each one of us should possess.
laziness is in itself a cage for creativity and production, poor choice is the result of not caring enough about oneself.
socialism is wrong because it only sees part of the picture but never addresses overpopulation and the environmental impact it creates, it treat everybody the same even if the lazy and the hard worker, creative man/woman are two different things.
it really dislike property and splendor..this why I hate socialism.
Juan

San Francisco, CA

#19 Jun 30, 2010
SubRosa's management's decision was pure capitalism:

The management made a prudent business decision by not alienating their anarchist customer base. Angry customers don't buy anything. The people who are upset about them letting the transient go aren't potential SubRosa customers. So the smart business decision was to pander to the customer base!
Angry Downtowner

United States

#20 Jun 30, 2010
Just because a crime victim doesn't want to press charges doesn't mean the District Attorney can't prosecute.

Given the repetitive history of crimes committed by the suspect, I'd encourage SCPD and the DA to move this case forward without SubRosa.
LOL

Denver, CO

#21 Jun 30, 2010
"We see this as another symptom of capitalism -- some people have nothing and feel desperate enough to break in to spaces that also, it turns out this time, have nothing. Crimes against property are driven by poverty and desperation."

And Mr Miller sees that Subrosa are fools and an easy mark.

"We have no desire for police in our community and will not be working with them in this case, except to recover our property,"

Well, isn't that nice and convenient.

Subrosa seem to want to have their property back.
5genSC

Silver Spring, MD

#22 Jun 30, 2010
pandorabox wrote:
<quoted text> poverty is driven by many thing, corruption in the mind and heart is a different matter, see> we can be poor per se but we can still have values and behave in a honorable and rightful way. what is lose here is the dignity the honor and personal pride each one of us should possess.
laziness is in itself a cage for creativity and production, poor choice is the result of not caring enough about oneself.
socialism is wrong because it only sees part of the picture but never addresses overpopulation and the environmental impact it creates, it treat everybody the same even if the lazy and the hard worker, creative man/woman are two different things.
it really dislike property and splendor..this why I hate socialism.
Because a lot of people on top don't necessarily work harder; they are just very adept at standing on the shoulders of others. Do you think that the owner of the diamond min in Africa really works harder than the poor schmo who does all the digging? If you do nothing, that is one thing, but as long as you are working there should be MORE (not necessarily perfect) equality.

“This is only a test of the ...”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#23 Jun 30, 2010
so if capitalism is doing well and provides jobs and tax revenues for social services...it sucks..

and if capitalism is doing poorly and doesnt provide jobs or taxes revenues for social services..it still sucks!

:)

guess anarchists are never happy!

but yes...the want their stuff back! Gee...who paid for the guys that recovered your property?

If I was the officer in charge...I'd 'accidentally' drop their stuff a few times before returning it. Whoopsie!
David Larson

Windsor, CA

#24 Jun 30, 2010
So let me get this straight: Subrosa doesn't want the police in their town yet they call them when their stuff is stolen.

The police should not respond to calls for service from Subrosa. Let them find their own stuff.
Maybe

Mountain View, CA

#26 Jun 30, 2010
Headline: Woman robbed of $1 during delivery.

Dissatisfied customer taking their gratuity back?
fladap

Santa Cruz, CA

#27 Jun 30, 2010
As Groucho Marx would say..What a bunch of jerks.

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