Historic day for Kodak

Historic day for Kodak

There are 18 comments on the WHEC-TV Rochester, NY story from Sep 4, 2009, titled Historic day for Kodak. In it, WHEC-TV Rochester, NY reports that:

It's a historic day for Eastman Kodak. On this day in 1888, George Eastman received a patent for a roll film camera called "The Kodak." The camera, made right here in Rochester, marked the beginning of snapshot photography.

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chicken little

Lima, NY

#1 Sep 4, 2009
George Eastman is turning over in his grave for the past 20 years.
Chatty Patty

United States

#2 Sep 4, 2009
So sad....I never thought I would see (in my lifetime) where Kodak is today.
heartless

Batavia, NY

#3 Sep 4, 2009
Looking at the big yellow box today, it should be a day of grieving.
keith

Victor, NY

#4 Sep 4, 2009
What a shame a Company that used to care for its employees,Now your just a number looking to get enough time in to get out.
walmart

Rochester, NY

#5 Sep 4, 2009
I'm at a lose for words. It's a sad reminder of what corporate greed and poor leadership can do to a company. Perez,you and your cronies should be run out of town.
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#6 Sep 4, 2009
Well, "The Kodak" is worth remembering, but it didn't start "snapshot" photography. Twenty-five dollars was a lot of money in 1888, and not many people could afford the camera. It was "The Kodak Brownie," which debuted only 12 years later (1900), that put photography in the hands of the common man. It sold for only a buck, and that's when Joe-the-Factory-Worker bought a camera and took candid snapshots of his family, his house, the local 4th of July parades, his friends at work, etc. That's the camera that was sold to the slogan "You push the button, we do the rest."

Sorry, News10, you goofed again.
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#7 Sep 4, 2009
P.S. I think what the News10 writer meant to say that "The Kodak" was the first camera to use roll film. The really early cameras did not use negatives at all, but when they did they were generally glass plates.

Here is the story of "The Kodak," and surprise, surprise--it's not an Eastman invention, it just took a good businessman like Eastman to market it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_film
do more reading

Conesus, NY

#8 Sep 4, 2009
umm, hate to burst that bubble sue........read on mcduff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#9 Sep 4, 2009
do more reading wrote:
umm, hate to burst that bubble sue........read on mcduff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak
The problem with your wiki reference is that it is redirected from the Kodak website and is condensed for the general public and inaccurate in general. Because of that, Wiki editors posted the following:

# Its neutrality is disputed. Tagged since June 2008.
# It is written like an advertisement and needs to be rewritten from a neutral point of view. Tagged since July 2009.
# It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Tagged since July 2007.

In brief, it is not a trustworthy article.

I am well aware of what Kodak wants its market to believe. However, as the Wiki editors point out, it is an inaccurate essay that does not meet their quality standards for accuracy.

When using secondary resources to prove a point, it is always necessary to evaluate them for accuracy by comparing them to primary works. In so doing, this particular one fails.

Since early photography is a hobby of mine, please contact me offline and I would be glad to refer you to some excellent sources about early photographic methods, including the introduction of roll film and the role of the Brownie camera in early 20th c photography.
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#10 Sep 4, 2009
P.S. Again:

Here's a clearer explanation of the Houston-Eastman connection as regards roll film (from The Focal Encyclopedia of Photography: 4th Edition (2007) Edited By Michael R. Peres):

http://books.google.com/books...
Shitkicker

Rochester, NY

#11 Sep 4, 2009
Ah, days of future passed . . .
do more reading

Conesus, NY

#12 Sep 4, 2009
most of the redirect is from georges biography, it is written from a source INDEPENDANT of kodak.....in his biography it is explained how the name "kodak" came to be and it wasnt dakota, lol......maybe houston did help invent roll film , his invention wasnt a viable product, it barely held up, nitro was the way to go before plastics came around......heres a little history for you, building 103 just east of dewey was the first building built on the east of dewey, that building made the nitrocellous dope , it was placed far from dewey because of the tendency of the dope to expolde, lol.....
wiki is for everyone to use and abuse, sometimes the info there isnt the most factual.....
do more reading

Conesus, NY

#13 Sep 4, 2009
sorry, make that the west of dewey, I guess i should have posted that on wiki, lol
LMC

Romulus, NY

#14 Sep 5, 2009
When Kodak is completely gone that will be a historic day. They just layed off more workers on the 2nd and more to follow. But yet they are posting more jobs for managers way to go Perez you SUCK!!!
smores

AOL

#15 Sep 5, 2009
I am gad Sue and do more reading are having this discussion. Pretty interesting information exchanged and intelligent for a change. THANK YOU
Ghost of George Eastman

Rochester, NY

#16 Sep 5, 2009
Thanks to the greed of CEOs like Antonio `press 2 for Spanish`, my once-great company is on its death bed.
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#17 Sep 5, 2009
do more reading wrote:
most of the redirect is from georges biography, it is written from a source INDEPENDANT of kodak.....in his biography it is explained how the name "kodak" came to be and it wasnt dakota, lol......maybe houston did help invent roll film , his invention wasnt a viable product, it barely held up, nitro was the way to go before plastics came around......heres a little history for you, building 103 just east of dewey was the first building built on the east of dewey, that building made the nitrocellous dope , it was placed far from dewey because of the tendency of the dope to expolde, lol.....
wiki is for everyone to use and abuse, sometimes the info there isnt the most factual.....
You're right about Wiki, it's an open source, but at least they are trying to alert people as to how to critically analyze the information it contains--which, by the way, one should do with *all* source material, including "georges biography." There are several, and I don't know which one you are talking about, but certainly one can slant a biography to fit a personal agenda just as easily as one can bias a Wiki article to encourage more Kodak sales and not trouble the general public with too many facts.

I have been on the tour, though, and I was told how Eastman invented the name "Kodak" as one that was easy to remember. If he was anything, Eastman was indeed a marketer, and I do agree with you that it took an Eastman to make Houston's invention salable.

However, that does not excuse the mistakes in the news article. If you look beyond the agenda-driven Kodak/Wiki article that you relied upon, there is overwhelming evidence to indicate that "The Kodak" was not the camera that gave photography to the masses, although it was indeed the first step in a 12-year process that led to The Brownie, which is the camera that did.

P.S. Earlier photographic processes were just as dangerous, maybe not as explosive but certainly the fumes produced by the chemicals killed a lot of workers.
Sue In Wayne County

Williamson, NY

#18 Sep 5, 2009
smores wrote:
I am gad Sue and do more reading are having this discussion. Pretty interesting information exchanged and intelligent for a change. THANK YOU
I'm sort of surprised, but thanks! This is what I read the news for, to discuss and learn more than what meets the eye...

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