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Rich1
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Rick I'm not really going to ask which Kia it is that has a 5 gallon tank, but we all drive what we do for a reason. Your PC Korean import wont hold 200 pounds of camera gear, nor will it comfortably carry my disabled wife.
However I'm not looking for your sympathy. Nor do I really care that you get 40 MPG when you might get 50 if you simply slowed down. But thats your wallet not mine.
Slowing down will save fuel.
The vehicle carries my disabled Family members just fine, and by the way, I don't need to slow down as I drive the speed limit. The 40 mph is maximum for my vehicle not an indicter of someone driving to fast. Thanks for the shout out! Talk about materialistic-200 lbs of cameras seem very unnecessary. I purchased my PC vehicle 4 years ago, not because of a gas crisis (which I knew was on the way) but because I care about the environment. The Kia I purchased was one of the three top clean burning vehicles. They get a bad rap but they are wonderful vehicles. Four years and no repairs or problems!
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JCD
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>I can't believe how much they charge for that Zenn. Starting at $13,500 and the max speed is 25?? I don't think so.
$13k? Must have gone up. Of course, effectively free transportation versus anything gas based, it should be more expensive; the real costs of vehicles is moving towards recurring costs and not up front, one time monies. Punch the number over the course of three years, or even just a few months nowadays, and you'll see what Howard is talking about. When my EV was out for 6 months, I saw my costs go up impressively... and this was before the recent spike, gas just over $3/gal, I was driving an efficient car & just around town.
I do see a few people stating "I can bike the range/speed of the car", but as a semi-avid bicyclist I find most people are far from willing - let alone capable - in this regard. People driving locally tend to overestimate given trip lengths, underestimate how much they'll add up over time, and swap the bike (or scooter, or motorcycle) for their car as soon as it's not sunny & 70F+.
The speed is governed by law, not vehicular ability. Several states have already fixed that legal uckfup and many more are in the process. "Rumor" has it a few people have an easy way to remove the vehicular limitation (think "setting your VCR" for complexity) in preparation for local laws changing as well.
Regardless, if most of your driving is local it works out extremely well. It's not a freeway car, it's a second car, a concept most people are already familiar with. It's kind of like having a motorcycle for commuting, just slower & covered (and even there, cheaper to run). Less short hop wear & tear on your gasoline car will make it last longer too.
Slow down from 75->55 and save some reasonable bucks. Slow down to normal street speeds, avoiding the highway - hey, how's 1 these mornings?- and save a *lot*.
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LOL2THEMAX
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Mulepig go away. You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. If we need a caveman we'll call.
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Aptos Mom
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not true wrote: <quoted text>
No it's the gas station for sure your wrong about this,I've always used a Visa, some station are set at $50.00, some at $75.00 some no limit!
What larger vehicles spend over $200.00 maybe a Semi-truck but not a regular vehicle no way!!Your contradicting yourself big time!Get your facts straight please before you spew!! Wow, talk about spewing. Some people drive RV vehicles or boats that can require large amounts of gas that run high dollars. Maybe you can be more kind in your reply next time.
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Reality Check
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Empiricist wrote: <quoted text>
Actuall RC, if you drive around town (not on HiWays) going to stores, office, running errands for 16.5 miles a day (500 miles a month = apx 16.5 miles per day), you are going to spend 30 to 35 minutes a day driving no matter what you drive. I figured he took weekends off. Even at 16.5miles/day, that's more than 35 minutes unless he gets to 25mph instantaneously - not likely when that is the max speed. ;):p
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Gas Nozzle
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Do women like guys with huge gas nozzles, average gas nozzles, or small gas nozzles? Does the size of a mans nozzle matter?
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Preston Kincaid
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Just returned from Europe, and I learned that we have alot to learn from Europe. First of all, they have super quiet, Super smooth, super fast, and super comfortable trains that go anywhere you wanna go, and leave about every hour. Many europeans simply do not need cars, or drive very short distances to train stations. WE NEED THIS! The automakers have lobbied aginst it for too long, and it's time to stand up for this. Second, the way they drive is amazingly wonderful. They seem to have a real interest in getting people where they want to go. Here in teh states, we have stop signs and 4-way stops everywhere! They use yield signs a lot, not to mention roundabouts instead of 4-way stops, that keep you moving :) Also, they understand slower traffic ALWAYS stays right, and yes, they NEVER drive in the left lane unless they are passing. We shoudl all be required to travel to Europe and learn driving etiquette. My two cents :)
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Traveler
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Well said, Preston Kincaid. I agree completely. I've been blown away by the European way of transit. I think it has to do with the fact that their fuel prices have been roughly what ours are now for quite a while (and are no doubt much higher now).
This is why I will not support a 30-year tax to widen the highway -- it doesn't provide true forward progress that financing something on that time-horizon should be all about.
Other cool things I've seen in European travel:
Traffic lights that turn from red to yellow before green -- allows everyone to get ready to move reducing delay. It also makes it not such a great idea to run a yellow (or red) light like drivers do here on occasion.
Another I saw on the autobahn in Germany was electronic speed signs: the speed limit is governed by weather and traffic ahead. What a concept! If its safe, open it up -- wet or congested, and the speed limit comes down. They are many km ahead in that regard.
And yes, finally, move left to pass and cruise on the right darnit!
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Airborne
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I drive a SXII Specialized. The mileage is fantastic, About 400 calories/12 miles. Lose the gut, save the wallet, my ATM card still has the sticker on it the thing is so new. Get off your high horse people. If you have to drive there you are going too far. If you are not riding your bike you are too fat and too lazy. Ride your bike or die.
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Boner by Bowflex
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While passing cars left and right may seem to be a good thing for traffic flow, it's not. Every other driver has to slow or brake to make room for your weaving unpredictible speed machine.
Excess lane changes waste everybodys time when somebody has to force their car between two other cars. Pick a lane and stay in it, preferably the RIGHT one for traffic flow.
On city streets, it is so not cool to constantly change lanes just to be in the faster moving lane of traffic. You get there quicker, maybe, but piss everyone else off and cause ROAD RAGE.
Constant traffic jockeying for the pole position does not help congestion. Driving is not a game.
A car with an automatic transmission is like a loaded gun when placed in gear- when you take your foot off the brake, it moves- sometimes quickly, in the direction your point it. Would you wave around a loaded gun or point it at people?
The difference is a lot less than you would think. Driving is serious stuff.
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Willie
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Preston Kincaid wrote: Just returned from Europe, and I learned that we have alot to learn from Europe. First of all, they have super quiet, Super smooth, super fast, and super comfortable trains that go anywhere you wanna go, and leave about every hour. Many europeans simply do not need cars, or drive very short distances to train stations. WE NEED THIS! The automakers have lobbied aginst it for too long, and it's time to stand up for this.
Second, the way they drive is amazingly wonderful. They seem to have a real interest in getting people where they want to go. Here in teh states, we have stop signs and 4-way stops everywhere! They use yield signs a lot, not to mention roundabouts instead of 4-way stops, that keep you moving :) Also, they understand slower traffic ALWAYS stays right, and yes, they NEVER drive in the left lane unless they are passing. We shoudl all be required to travel to Europe and learn driving etiquette.
My two cents :) Everyone always returns from Europe, saying, "wow, the trains are so awesome!" and "wow, all the safe bike paths are so great." Somehow, we don't have the political will and leadership, to make it happen here! why??
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Willie wrote: <quoted text>
Everyone always returns from Europe, saying, "wow, the trains are so awesome!" and "wow, all the safe bike paths are so great." Somehow, we don't have the political will and leadership, to make it happen here! why?? Maybe we're not paying enough for gasoline for that to happen. Stay tuned ...
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