Global Warming Exposed as B.S. during Debate

Sep 24, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Prox

In our beloved Frist 307 this afternoon, former classroom of Albert Einstein, professor and internationally renowned global warming skeptic Fred Singer opened the debate.

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There is certainly a lot of bullshit here. The 'pro' side,'con' side and the blog itself seem to smell badly.

One clue to the falsity of Fred Singer is his claim "The UN scientists think it's manmade. Real scientists think it's natural."

Fact is that there is no distinction between "UN scientists'(who merely survey, validate and condense peer reviewed journal papers ) and 'real scientists' who are (contrary to his claim) solidly in support of AGW science as proven by survveys of their published papers. http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/...

Then you get stupidities like Held saying " In fact, I don't really know what to think.". If he is ignorant about the subject WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING DEBATING IT??

Or Sokolow saying "We're adding fossil fuels! CO2 levels are 40% higher today than since the Industrial Revolution! It's climbing half a percent a year"

So far so good, but then he adds "and we're all going to die." to ensure that we all know that he is a complete loon.

On top of this is the ridiculous 'scoring'. This wasn't published last April first was it???
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that fred singer is 1 real scientist=1 smart person.

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There's never been an experimental test on manmade greenhouse gas and climate change. We've seen experimental tests on manmade particulate aerosols and climate cooling, the effect is local and brief. The lack of experimental tests should prove to you, climate change mitigation is a hoax.
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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
There is certainly a lot of bullshit here. The 'pro' side,'con' side and the blog itself seem to smell badly.
One clue to the falsity of Fred Singer is his claim "The UN scientists think it's manmade. Real scientists think it's natural."
Fact is that there is no distinction between "UN scientists'(who merely survey, validate and condense peer reviewed journal papers ) and 'real scientists' who are (contrary to his claim) solidly in support of AGW science as proven by survveys of their published papers. http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/04/...
Then you get stupidities like Held saying " In fact, I don't really know what to think.". If he is ignorant about the subject WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING DEBATING IT??
Or Sokolow saying "We're adding fossil fuels! CO2 levels are 40% higher today than since the Industrial Revolution! It's climbing half a percent a year"
So far so good, but then he adds "and we're all going to die." to ensure that we all know that he is a complete loon.
On top of this is the ridiculous 'scoring'. This wasn't published last April first was it???
We don't need Fred Singer to be the narrator that leads the charge refuting, denying and debunking man-made global warming!! There are 100's, and literally 1000's of Atmospheric, Climatology, Mathematicians, Physicists and Engineering Climate Scientists who have been "purposely silenced" from speaking out against this perpetrated hoax, scam and fraud, by the Government controlled mainstream media and are now, EACH DAY, verbally exposing the TRUTH of the manipulated, distorted and ommitted science data from the heavily government subsidized "think tanks" such as UNIPCC NASA, NOAA, ERU, and the National Academy of Science.--- Al Gores global warming "luxury liner" is sinking faster than its crew of "overheating of the planet-"circus clowns", can plug the holes!!!
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On the other hand we have the loon, Jimbo Hansen, the guy who predicted that West Side Highway, NY would be underwater by 2008, but guess what, it's still high and dry.
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As each year passes and fewer climate prophesies, based on crystal ball computers come to pass, even more people will be turning against climate science and the nutty professors whose salaries they pay.
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On the other hand we have the loon, Jimbo Hansen, the guy who predicted that West Side Highway, NY would be underwater by 2008, but guess what, it's still high and dry.
Generally when I try to track down these 'forecasts' I find that they don't exist ( in any reliable website ). Would you care to give a reference to the quote? Just to determine if he actually said anything similar or you are just pulling it from your ass.

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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Generally when I try to track down these 'forecasts' I find that they don't exist ( in any reliable website ). Would you care to give a reference to the quote? Just to determine if he actually said anything similar or you are just pulling it from your ass.
Just ask Al Gore, for a complete list of the "scientific forecasts" (all of which are "politically motivated),in which he claims "science is settled, no further research is needed, consensus is unanimous, and no discussion necessary. "Science fiction" in its FINAL HOURS!
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Brian_G wrote:
If Mr Undoubtably Selt Fourty isn't happy with those links, he could always contact Rob Riess and ask him.
The fact that Hansen has never denied saying it is good enough for me, I'm sure he would have by now if it was untrue.
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Leshy doesn't find the skeptic's websites reliable, so it doesn't count when:
Exactly. The tobacco scientist 'pseudo-science' of the 'industry backed denial' has NO crediblity and their various 'denial' blogs are NOT about skepticism. They are about creating the PERCEPTION of skepticism by hiding denial behind a thin coating of 'scientificky' sounding gibberish.

So, you finally figured that out?
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Brian_G wrote:
All report on Hansen's failed prediction.
What I asked was a RELIABLE reference to the QUOTATION from Mr. Hansen himself, NOT a bogus claim from a group of idiots that probably did not understand what he actually SAID or would deliberately distort it to cause confusion.

In other words, I wanted you to BACK UP YOUR CLAIM, not just point to the 'herd mentality' of the denailist camp. Appeal to popularity is the most common and least effective logical fallacy driven by the internet.

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Psychics don't publish their failed forecasts, only there successes. Why don't you ask Hansen's interviewer, Rob Riess, as Earthling suggests? I find the evidence compelling, global warming is nothing more than a laundry list of failures.
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I find the evidence compelling......
brian_g with his hi skule deegreee, comprehended at a sub-5th grade level, who never cared to go further, has a 2-bit oil can job, who has made 4 alleged threats & who made errors of 1 million, 1000 & 3000 times, trying to repeat back data given him (he didn't even have to calculate), may find things compelling. But as Laugh-In's Jo Ann Worley would say,'No one cares anymore...!'
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I wanted you to BACK UP YOUR CLAIM
I've been wanting you to, "BACK UP YOUR CLAIM" that forty was ever spelled 'fourty' in the last few hundred years, but you continue to avoid providing evidence for it.
Any particular reason, or is it simply that you can find nothing to, "BACK UP YOUR CLAIM," Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?

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litesong wrote:
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Hey Litesong,

Have you learned how to describe why the poles are cold?

Just wondering if you can contribute more than whining.

My best to the missus!

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Septic Fred, he talks to the Dead

http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2010/05/eric_fn...
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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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What I asked was a RELIABLE reference to the QUOTATION from Mr. Hansen himself, NOT a bogus claim from a group of idiots that probably did not understand what he actually SAID or would deliberately distort it to cause confusion.
In other words, I wanted you to BACK UP YOUR CLAIM, not just point to the 'herd mentality' of the denailist camp. Appeal to popularity is the most common and least effective logical fallacy driven by the internet.
The confirmed quotations and comments from the "idiots" that you refer to happen to be some of the most authenticated, credible, and highly respected SCIENTISTS in the field of Climate Research,in the world, today. Lets begin with (1) Former NASA director, Dr. John Theon, recently retired Chief of Climate Process Research Director (boss) of James Hansen who said,"Hansen "violated" NASA's official agency position on climate forecasting, "embarrassing" NASA, by coming out with "false claims" of global warming in 1988 and later in 2007, in testimonies before Congress." (2) Dr. Walter Cummingham, NASA Astronaut and Physicist, closely associated with Hansen, said, "James Hansen is a "political activist," who spreads fear, even when NASA's research data contradicts his own views." and (3) Dr. Nicholas Drapola, Chemist and long time acquaintence of Hansen said, "My dear colleague, NASA's James Hansen, I believe, has finally gone off the deep end....The global warming time bomb, disastrous climate changes spiraling dynamically out of control....These are the words of an apocalyptic prophet, NOT a rational scientist!(4) Further comments from Dr. John Theon, NASA, "The equation upon which ALL global warming theories and studies are built, are inherently "flawed". WORSE, however, than the flaw in the equation is that this FACT has been "covered up" by NASA, from the first lunar landing until now---nearly 41 years later. Man-made global warming has been an "orchestrated litany of "lies"--so quotes Dr. John Theon, since retired Chief of NASA's Climate Process Research Center.---------To paraphrase your comments, it is you, Bozo, Northie and the rest of the Al Gore, Man-made global warming "worshipers", that have "firmly" secured the title of "doomsday, overheating of the planet---IDIOTS----as you continue in their "science fiction" crusade of hypothetical assumptions, guesses, and provisional theories that are based SOLELY upon the 6 year research of 2500 IPCC scientists, concluding that there is a--5%---CHANCE, that the planet MIGHT experience a 6.4 centigrade rise in temperature in 100 years base upon---IF UNDER CERTAIN REASONABLE ASSUMPTION are met,ALL of which is unproven, fictitious, contrived and invented,------a "skeleton in the closet" MYTH!--

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Brian_G wrote:
Psychics don't publish their failed forecasts, only there successes.
But the issue was the claim of a scientific forecast by a well publicized scientist. Why are you dodging any backup of your claim. Or is that obvious..
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The confirmed quotations and comments from the "idiots" that you refer to happen to be some of the most authenticated, credible, and highly respected ..
A very long post with more unsupported claims and NO support of the original claim. I can only assume you have nothing but more bluff and bluster.
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hojo wrote:
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We don't need Fred Singer to be the narrator that leads the charge refuting, denying and debunking man-made global warming!!..
Especially as he has no serious credentials himself on which to base even a CHALLENGE to the work of thousands of employed scientists. How is his career in political spin these days?

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