French movement against pension refor...

French movement against pension reform loses steam

There are 7 comments on the People's Daily Online story from Nov 6, 2010, titled French movement against pension reform loses steam. In it, People's Daily Online reports that:

Christophe Hiou, a worker of French oil giant Total and CGT labour union representative, shouts slogans during a demonstration over pension reforms with private and public sector workers in Saint-Nazaire October 28, 2010.

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j-jour

France

#1 Nov 7, 2010
It may look like it is losing steam, but it can also look like it is taking deeper roots in the country.
The people who are organising themselves to fight on against this pension reform bill do not have easy access to the front pages as you can imagine if you consider who owns the media, even though polls did mention that 70% declared themselves against this pension reform bill.
ronan

Barnsley, UK

#2 Nov 7, 2010
j-jour wrote:
It may look like it is losing steam, but it can also look like it is taking deeper roots in the country.
The people who are organising themselves to fight on against this pension reform bill do not have easy access to the front pages as you can imagine if you consider who owns the media, even though polls did mention that 70% declared themselves against this pension reform bill.
It doesn't matter what they want or what they think: the French state coffers are empty and that's all there is!

They had it too good for too long.
j-jour

Clermont-ferrand, France

#5 Nov 10, 2010
ronan wrote:
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It doesn't matter what they want or what they think: the French state coffers are empty and that's all there is!
They had it too good for too long.
What empties state coffers is nothing but the incredible easy ways for huge profits (companies and banks and billionaires) to escape to tax heavens everywhere on the planet.
It is our society's blackhole.
ronan

Barnsley, UK

#6 Nov 10, 2010
j-jour wrote:
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What empties state coffers is nothing but the incredible easy ways for huge profits (companies and banks and billionaires) to escape to tax heavens everywhere on the planet.
It is our society's blackhole.
Just the demography defeats the idea of early pension: people live longer (therefore there are more pensioners) and have less children (therefore less people who contribute).

That has nothing to do with banks and billionaires who contribute to the economy, create jobs and invest in the country.

You are accusing the wrong people!!
j-jour

France

#7 Nov 11, 2010
ronan wrote:
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Just the demography defeats the idea of early pension: people live longer (therefore there are more pensioners) and have less children (therefore less people who contribute).
That has nothing to do with banks and billionaires who contribute to the economy, create jobs and invest in the country.
You are accusing the wrong people!!
Why is it then that in 2007 Sarkozy promised that he wouldn't change the age of retirement, when the demographic situation was the same as it is now?
Why is it that the excuse he gives now for his reform is that the international crisis has changed the situation?
So are you sure that the reform has nothing do with banks and billionaires and their search for unreasonable profits at any cost?
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#8 Nov 11, 2010
j-jour wrote:
<quoted text>So are you sure that the reform has nothing do with banks and billionaires and their search for unreasonable profits at any cost?
Pretty sure. "So are you sure that the reform has nothing do with (you and your ilk) and their search for unreasonable profits at any cost?" Nope
ronan

Barnsley, UK

#9 Nov 11, 2010
j-jour wrote:
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Why is it then that in 2007 Sarkozy promised that he wouldn't change the age of retirement, when the demographic situation was the same as it is now?
Why is it that the excuse he gives now for his reform is that the international crisis has changed the situation?
So are you sure that the reform has nothing do with banks and billionaires and their search for unreasonable profits at any cost?
France has more nationalised banks and institutions than most European countries. You can't blame the 'fat cats' in France: the government is often the fat cat!

The problem in France is that the public sector is a too large percentage of the economy, and that welfare, pension and other benefits have been recklessly dished out under the Socialists to gain votes.

Now, it becomes impossible to balance the books, and both Securite Sociale and pensions become a burden on the state budget.

That accusation against rich people (banks and billionaires) is childish; if you punish them injustly and chase them away, they will take their money abroad and stop investing in France. You need to attract them instead!
Also, you should rejoyce at profits; profits bring investment. Bankrupcy benefits nobody at all ...

Keep the rich and sack the 'fonctionaires'!!! LOL

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