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French GDP Shrinks as Hollande Faces Job Cuts, Recession Risk

There are 43 comments on the Bloomberg story from Feb 14, 2013, titled French GDP Shrinks as Hollande Faces Job Cuts, Recession Risk. In it, Bloomberg reports that:

The French economy shrank in the fourth quarter as manufacturers slashed thousands of jobs and President Francois Hollande struggled to keep the nation from falling back into recession for the first time since 2009.

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“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#1 Feb 14, 2013
Eurozone countries will save only if become federation as USA.
General Franco of Spain

Podgorica, Montenegro

#2 Feb 16, 2013
Socialism is killing France.
Dumb French people voting for Hollande Jew Marxist idiot..
Francestan....
rio

UK

#3 Feb 16, 2013
General Franco of Spain wrote:
Socialism is killing France.
Dumb French people voting for Hollande Jew Marxist idiot..
Francestan....
France voters pay a high price for wanting to get rid of Sarkozy at all cost.

Voting for a socialist is always a pact with the devil.
ocxz

Pocé-sur-cisse, France

#4 Feb 16, 2013
rio wrote:
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France voters pay a high price for wanting to get rid of Sarkozy at all cost.
Voting for a socialist is always a pact with the devil.
The right or left have the same policies, if you remove the cosmetics.
And Hollande had his war at the beginning of his mandate, and Sarkozy at the end, there's a difference.
rio

UK

#5 Feb 17, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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The right or left have the same policies, if you remove the cosmetics.
And Hollande had his war at the beginning of his mandate, and Sarkozy at the end, there's a difference.
I don't agre.
Sarko and the UMP were far from perfect, but their economic policies were more sensible than Hollande's ones.

Hollandes, like all socialists, tends to give to much power to the unions at the expense of enterprises, and also resorts to protectionism.

A modern France needs to embrasse a more liberal economy and accept market forces. For too long France has been shunning globalisation.
ocxz

Paris, France

#6 Feb 17, 2013
rio wrote:
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I don't agre.
Sarko and the UMP were far from perfect, but their economic policies were more sensible than Hollande's ones.
Hollandes, like all socialists, tends to give to much power to the unions at the expense of enterprises, and also resorts to protectionism.
A modern France needs to embrasse a more liberal economy and accept market forces. For too long France has been shunning globalisation.
Market forces ?
Liberal economy ?
Why not rename the country Framerica while you are at it.
rio

UK

#7 Feb 17, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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Market forces ?
Liberal economy ?
Why not rename the country Framerica while you are at it.
Why not bringing France in the 21st century, rather than keeping in in the 19th century.

America works, France doesn't.
ocxz

Paris, France

#8 Feb 17, 2013
rio wrote:
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Why not bringing France in the 21st century, rather than keeping in in the 19th century.
America works, France doesn't.
No thanks.
France is very much in the 21st century, and doing fine.
Times are hard for everybody.
America works for the top end of the pyramid.
I don't.

rio

UK

#9 Feb 17, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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No thanks.
France is very much in the 21st century, and doing fine.
Times are hard for everybody.
America works for the top end of the pyramid.
I don't.
If you are against market forces, a liberal economy, globalisation and competition, you must be some sort of socialist.

That's why us Brits want to break out of Europe, we don't like the socialist path it seems to choose, with more state control, more protectionism, more regulations, etc... That the recipe for the Union of Socialist Europe.

America , like the UK, likes less state intervention and more competition for success.
ocxz

Paris, France

#10 Feb 17, 2013
rio wrote:
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If you are against market forces, a liberal economy, globalisation and competition, you must be some sort of socialist.
That's why us Brits want to break out of Europe, we don't like the socialist path it seems to choose, with more state control, more protectionism, more regulations, etc... That the recipe for the Union of Socialist Europe.
America , like the UK, likes less state intervention and more competition for success.
Look if the UK who freely joined the EU, now wants out of the EU, nobody forces them to stay.
I guess the british leaders might ask the people what they think first, who knows ?

I just don't see what that has to do with France.
We have our system, you have yours.
rio

UK

#11 Feb 17, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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Look if the UK who freely joined the EU, now wants out of the EU, nobody forces them to stay.
I guess the british leaders might ask the people what they think first, who knows ?
I just don't see what that has to do with France.
We have our system, you have yours.
The UK never joined the European Union. It joined the Common Market.

The Common Market transformed itself into the European Economic Commnity, by acquiring more members.

Then, when the federalists overtook the commission, they steered it to become the European Union, as a political entity with a parliament, a president, etc... That's not the institution we joined!

What that has to do with France? Well, you, like most French apparently and the EU seem to like these socialist principles of protectionism, state intervention,regulations, etc...

Britain has always advocated economic liberalism in its long history, free trade, minimal state intervention, etc... That's why we are now clashing with socialist Europe, and opening to the rest of the world: China, Brazil, India, Russia, etc....
ocxz

Paris, France

#12 Feb 17, 2013
rio wrote:
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The UK never joined the European Union. It joined the Common Market.
The Common Market transformed itself into the European Economic Commnity, by acquiring more members.
Then, when the federalists overtook the commission, they steered it to become the European Union, as a political entity with a parliament, a president, etc... That's not the institution we joined!
What that has to do with France? Well, you, like most French apparently and the EU seem to like these socialist principles of protectionism, state intervention,regulations, etc...
Britain has always advocated economic liberalism in its long history, free trade, minimal state intervention, etc... That's why we are now clashing with socialist Europe, and opening to the rest of the world: China, Brazil, India, Russia, etc....
Good, so if that is the way you think is right, then leave the EU and join the US.
You'll understand that there are other people that feel the brunt of the consequences of your so-called economic liberalism, free trade, minimal state intervention, and don't want to level down to the countries you mentioned.
There is not one slightest bit of human consideration in your comments, all to do about material stuff.

Since: Mar 12

Issy-les-moulineaux, France

#13 Feb 18, 2013
rio wrote:
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France voters pay a high price for wanting to get rid of Sarkozy at all cost.
Voting for a socialist is always a pact with the devil.
Voters took the only sensible solution ofered to them.thes socialists are a far cry from the previous generation.

Admittedly they were not chosen for their economic policies alone. Sarko was unravelling the fabric of the nation in a frightening manner. for instance Taubira has been doing a real good job so far.

Anyway , economy is in bad shape all across Europe, and I am not sure rececionnist policies are the answer.

As for closing plants, the governmetn is only trying to stop rogue operators, but they are no longer opposed to closing down lame ducks on principle which is a notable evolutions. They have taken the socio-democratic turn and it is positive one (which did paly a serious role in tehir return to power)
rio

Bromley, UK

#14 Feb 18, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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There is not one slightest bit of human consideration in your comments, all to do about material stuff.
Human consideration?
Do you think an almighty EU nanny state will have human consideration?
Once the federal EU will have seized all the levers of power, it will dictate their life to hundreds of millions of people in Europe.
It will control not only the economy, but their behaviour and every aspect of their lives.
It's reintroducing socialism through the back door, 25 years after we have defeated communism in Eastern Europe.

The West defeated communism because it had a better economic model, based on free trade, liberalism, globalisation, competition, capitalism that allowed entrepreneurial individuals to bring prosperity, jobs, profit.
Compared to that, the EU anti-globalisation protectionism is a sclerose of the initatives, and punishment for the success of some, a desinsentive policy. It advocate narrow-minded protectionism.

Liberal economics empower the creative minds, allow for development and give more freedom to the individuals.

Down with the EU, and yes to free trade!!

Since: Mar 12

Issy-les-moulineaux, France

#16 Feb 18, 2013
rio wrote:
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Human consideration?

The West defeated communism because it had a better economic model, based on free trade, liberalism, globalisation, competition, capitalism that allowed entrepreneurial individuals to bring prosperity, jobs, profit.!
too much liberalism & competition produce horsey burgers... I don't trust human instincts where there is potential profit involved. Some healthy dose of regulation is necessary.
I am not against a continent sized federation, Europe is not a foreign entity, it is where I live in a borderless space. So more integration, not less
rio

Bromley, UK

#17 Feb 18, 2013
Tigerrlily wrote:
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too much liberalism & competition produce horsey burgers... I don't trust human instincts where there is potential profit involved. Some healthy dose of regulation is necessary.
I am not against a continent sized federation, Europe is not a foreign entity, it is where I live in a borderless space. So more integration, not less
Most Brits don't think Europe; they think the World.

Therefore, they don't want to be part of an increasingly bureaucratic and protectionist organisation that would restrict them to an European fortress.

Let's face it, the emerging nations and tomorrow economic giants aren't in Europe. They are the one with whom Britain should create links and agreements, not decaying Europe.

To most Brits, the idea of being part of an European Federation is absolutely abhorent. We are insular, we do not want to surrender to Brussels, Frankfurt or Paris.
ocxz

Boulogne-billancourt, France

#18 Feb 18, 2013
rio wrote:
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Most Brits don't think Europe; they think the World.
Therefore, they don't want to be part of an increasingly bureaucratic and protectionist organisation that would restrict them to an European fortress.
Let's face it, the emerging nations and tomorrow economic giants aren't in Europe. They are the one with whom Britain should create links and agreements, not decaying Europe.
To most Brits, the idea of being part of an European Federation is absolutely abhorent. We are insular, we do not want to surrender to Brussels, Frankfurt or Paris.
Well i don't see why you are moaning.
If the Brits are not part of the EU and don't want in what is the problem ?
Let them stay out.
Who needs them anyway ?
Good riddance.
rio

Bromley, UK

#19 Feb 18, 2013
ocxz wrote:
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Well i don't see why you are moaning.
If the Brits are not part of the EU and don't want in what is the problem ?
Let them stay out.
Who needs them anyway ?
Good riddance.
Hopefully we will get out before the end of this decade. I can't wait.

Who needs Britain? It's the 6th world economy, with a market of 60 millions of people.
Britain is also the 2nd contributor to the EU budget!
You will see the difference when we will leave!
ocxz

Boulogne-billancourt, France

#20 Feb 18, 2013
rio wrote:
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Hopefully we will get out before the end of this decade. I can't wait.
Who needs Britain? It's the 6th world economy, with a market of 60 millions of people.
Britain is also the 2nd contributor to the EU budget!
You will see the difference when we will leave!
Now i'm scared...

Since: Mar 12

Issy-les-moulineaux, France

#21 Feb 19, 2013
rio wrote:
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Hopefully we will get out before the end of this decade. I can't wait.
Who needs Britain? It's the 6th world economy, with a market of 60 millions of people.
Britain is also the 2nd contributor to the EU budget!
You will see the difference when we will leave!
Fare well ...

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