French Nazi-Era Collaborator Papon Dies

[william]

DonPanic wrote:

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I dont' pretend that USA ows its independence to France, I just say that Yorktown battle was a joint US French victory.

'Cor, DonPanic, you can't say that!! Most Americans think they won their independence at the sweepstake!!

[Raymond]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Well William, your UK is only one or maybe two rungs up that ladder that the French are on . Now before you let your mouth over ride your ass I lived in England for two years, so don't get pissy with me about the UK. I was in the midlands, Oxford and over in Essex. Granted you do live a little better in England and with the influx of immigrants your food has become eatable. Your just not replacing those old worn out row houses. They are everywhere and are not pleasant to look at.
Now, seeing that you feel the French are just a swell bunch to live with, trustworthy, honest and people you can always count on, well that's just fine for you Sparky, and before you get your shorts in a knot go have a cuppa and a nice piece of cod.
To set your mind straight I don't like anything in Europe, except Italian wine and food..The rest is trash.

Well you have made yourself clear for the umteenth time. Now stop boring everybody on these threads and get back to entertaining yourself doing what others of your ilk DO in thailand. You are the most ignorant American poster I have ever met on these threads. A disgrace to the USA. phoo

[william]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Well William, your UK is only one or maybe two rungs up that ladder that the French are on . Now before you let your mouth over ride your ass I lived in England for two years, so don't get pissy with me about the UK. I was in the midlands, Oxford and over in Essex. Granted you do live a little better in England and with the influx of immigrants your food has become eatable. Your just not replacing those old worn out row houses. They are everywhere and are not pleasant to look at.
Now, seeing that you feel the French are just a swell bunch to live with, trustworthy, honest and people you can always count on, well that's just fine for you Sparky, and before you get your shorts in a knot go have a cuppa and a nice piece of cod.
To set your mind straight I don't like anything in Europe, except Italian wine and food..The rest is trash.

Well if you don't like Europe and prefer to denigrate it. Fine, nobody forces you to come and like we say here:“It’s still a free country”. These 2 years in England in Oxford, the Midlands and Essex must have been such a dreadful experience for you: those awful old worn out row houses that are everywhere, and not pleasant to look at. Poor darling! Poor soul!

Well, there are places I am not too interested to visit myself, but I don’t go about putting them down for the sake of it. You still haven’t explained to us where do you stand on trust, honour or commitment, or why you blame France of lacking any of those. You seems to be so ...superior in these matters, that maybe we could learn something from you.

That’s why I asked for your origins, to try to understand why you are so dismissive of old Europe, and the French of course. Or was it a broadside just for you to feel good, speaking like an authority, from …. Bangkok, Thailand, I see….

I read on another thread that you pretend to be American. That could explain a lot. Usually we meet that kind of stupid behaviour among the minority of uneducated and narrow minded extremist right wing neocon evangelists from the States. The majority of Americans are fine, but your kind has its head so stuck up its arse, that it can’t see the rest of the world properly.

[DonPanic]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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When ever you hear something from Thailand that upsets you people you alway start with the sex crap, You can take those museums and destroy them. Thats what maybe your country was, but it damn sure isn't that way now..Like I said, your has beens!

each of a country alternates great and poor periods, in the 1970th, Great Britain was said to be a sinking down power, You say we "has been" when France is bound to be the most populated European country in 2020 and its fundamental economy will not collapse because France can feed twice it's own population, while the "has been" is actually optical fiber web connected.
Where do you think wheat flour for british and german biscuits, italian noodles mainly comes from ?
You may be proud that Thailand is so-called tiger, all western Europe countries had same growth rate than you tigers in the 1960th-1970th.

[EASY MONEY]

DonPanic wrote:

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each of a country alternates great and poor periods, in the 1970th, Great Britain was said to be a sinking down power, You say we "has been" when France is bound to be the most populated European country in 2020 and its fundamental economy will not collapse because France can feed twice it's own population, while the "has been" is actually optical fiber web connected.
Where do you think wheat flour for british and german biscuits, italian noodles mainly comes from ?
You may be proud that Thailand is so-called tiger, all western Europe countries had same growth rate than you tigers in the 1960th-1970th.

Look you think your the greatest, the Brits think their the greatest and that's just peachy keen. I will stay where I am and promise never to enter either of your boarders. You can handle all of your own affairs and the Brits will do the same. I will live the good life not thinking about either of you or your history..

[DonPanic]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Look you think your the greatest, the Brits think their the greatest and that's just peachy keen.

Not at all, I know that the french went as foreign invaders to Kingdom of Siam with will of submitting it with gunships threat.
That french cities went rich with slaves traffic
That the Brits behaved whith China as a narcotrafficant state
That some US southerners used to make fun with a black man burning.
I can say that the french muslim population can riot against a french police heavy mistake leading to death of kids, it doesn't riot when french newspapers publish cartoons mocking islam terrorists and 95 percent of the french muslims dispprove muslim groups wich complain on so-called offensive cartoons in french Court of Justice

[DonPanic]

EASY MONEY wrote:

I will live the good life not thinking about either of you or your history..

I'm living with thinking that peoples who judge others on what they are supposed to be instead of wondering who each one is really are deeply moronic

[Isabel]

To Master Mark (please see his comment)
Yes an absolutely "wonderful man", just "following orders" May he rot in hell. Bon débarras.
And to all the others: There was a tight and very honorable résitance that was crucial in the preparation of D-day. Thousands of french men were sent to "work camps" in Germany. Laval's government (Pétin was just a puppet) was not representative of the majority of the French, it was not elected but imposed!.
BTW I was at the trial!
Excerpt from Wikipedia:
Eric Roussel wrote that in the eyes of General de Gaulle, "the authority of the state is so sacred, the danger constituted by the communists so intolerable, that he is disposed to accept without too much problems of conscience men who may have, for a fairly long time, worked for the account of Vichy." [5] He was then named prefect of Corsica in January 1947 by Léon Blum's government, and in October 1949 of Constantine in Algeria by Radical Henri Queuille's government (with SFIO member Jules Moch at the Interior). He went to Morocco in 1954 as general secretary of the protectorate, and there helped crush the Moroccan nationalists. He then returned to Constantine in 1956 during the Algerian War (1954-62), where he actively participated in the repression and the use of torture against the civilian population [6]
In March 1958, he was named chief of the Paris police (préfet de police) by Félix Gaillard (Radical)'s government. As prefect of police, he had an important role in the May 13, 1958 crisis which brought de Gaulle to power. He took part in the Gaullist confidential meetings which assured the instrumentalization of the crisis, preparing de Gaulle's nomination as President of the Council, which granted him extraordinary powers [7]. On July 3, 1958, he managed to get what, according to Le Monde, he could "never have dreamed of": a "Carte d'Ancien Combattant de la Resistance" [2]. On July 12, 1961, president Charles de Gaulle bestowed on him the French Legion of Honour for service to the state [1].
He commanded the repression during the Paris massacre of 1961. On October 17, 1961, after a peaceful march organized by the Algerian National Liberation Front, 48 (according to French government) to 200 (according to historian Jean-Luc Einaudi) Algerian civilians were killed in Paris on 17 October 1961, many of whom thrown in the Seine river by the French police. The exact number of the dead remains unknown. A government enquiry in 1999 concluded 48 drownings on the one night and 142 similar deaths of Algerians in the weeks before and after, 110 of whom were found in the Seine; it also concluded the true toll was almost certainly higher.According to Le Monde, Papon "organized the silence," which would have to wait for historians in the 1990s [2].
Papon was also in charge during the February 8, 1962 demonstration against the OAS pro-"French Algeria" terrorist group. Organized by the French Communist Party (PCF), it had been prohibited by the state. Nine members of the CGT trade union, most of them communists, were killed at Charonne métro station by the police forces, directed by the same Maurice Papon under the same government, with Roger Frey as Minister of Interior, Michel Debré as Prime minister and Charles de Gaulle as president, who did all they could to "dissimulate the scale of the 17 October crime" (Jean-Luc Einaudi[8]). The funerals on 13 February 1962 of the nine persons killed (among them, Fanny Dewerpe) were attended by hundreds of thousands of people.[9][10][11]
But Papon was forced to leave his functions after the kidnapping, in Paris, of Mehdi Ben Barka, Moroccan dissident and leader of the Tricontinental Conference, in October 1965.

[LaRue]

He was a patriot who stood up for France and all of the white race, fighting the Jews and Communists who now destroy her and the other nations of the West. The French government of the 1930's was very much like the US and British government today: riddled with corrupt Jews who care nothing for other people and saddle the world with needless war, death and destruction.

[EASY MONEY]

DonPanic wrote:

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I'm living with thinking that peoples who judge others on what they are supposed to be instead of wondering who each one is really are deeply moronic

It might help you, if you were to read the EU commission's report on the state of the EU and the poverty in Europe. Like 10% living in households where no one was working. 1 in 6 below the poverty level, 16% at risk of becoming below that level. I didn't read it all because I don't care what Europe does. It might be right up you alley. I wish I was more capable on this machine, because I saw a great video clip of French troops trying to fire a small hand held rocket. It traveled all of two feet, where upon everyone ran, sort of like your troops landing in Lebanon video. If you haven't seen them please try to find them they are very funny.

[EASY MONEY]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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It might help you, if you were to read the EU commission's report on the state of the EU and the poverty in Europe. Like 10% living in households where no one was working. 1 in 6 below the poverty level, 16% at risk of becoming below that level. I didn't read it all because I don't care what Europe does. It might be right up you alley. I wish I was more capable on this machine, because I saw a great video clip of French troops trying to fire a small hand held rocket. It traveled all of two feet, where upon everyone ran, sort of like your troops landing in Lebanon video. If you haven't seen them please try to find them they are very funny.

Here's a little add on for you. I just finished reading an article in DIE WELT written by Mathies Dapfner. Please try to find it it is truly well worth the effort and time..I never thought that I would ever see an article like it coming from Europe.

[GOD wants you to kiss up]

Don't Just Follow any Leaders!

WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiots fools, causing more problems..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before voting for same old and few so called falsh leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn anaimals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless, mindless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision before putting those false leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I Hoping resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!

Your human comments!

[DonPanic]

EASY MONEY wrote:

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Here's a little add on for you. I just finished reading an article in DIE WELT written by Mathies Dapfner. Please try to find it it is truly well worth the effort and time..I never thought that I would ever see an article like it coming from Europe.

Before Spain or Ireland joined Europe, they had 20% unemployment rate

[DonPanic]

GOD wants you to kiss up wrote:

Don't Just Follow any Leaders!
WAKE UP PEOPLEs of world you just bunch of maronic idiots fools, causing more problems..., remember divine being just want everyone to love each other! Look at world so called leaders of yesterday and today they all false prophets causing wars, problems ...an all humans mass just follows, kowtow to these false charistimatic human leaders like they are gods; like brainless zombies get them further into destruction of so called human idiotic race! Peace is the answer. So Wake up stupid morinic humans of race, USE little damn brains before voting for same old and few so called falsh leader(s); which have mass of humans, neighbors, countries... pit agianst each other like damn anaimals causing the destruction of the so called human race! We as brainless, mindless mass of human idiotic of an sorry race need to realize that only we are one that needs to make decision before putting those false leaders into office... hopefully god will intervene in time
From
I also belong to so called " idiotic moronic human race", So I am also one so called Human Idiot of race: I Hoping resolve in so call time; there will be Peace on earth! AMen
IDIOT ONE! Please pass it on!
Your human comments!

Hey, you pass off, I've already donated