Felipe Massa says Fernando Alonso kne...

Felipe Massa says Fernando Alonso knew about the Pique crash in Singapore

There are 32 comments on the Typically Spanish story from Oct 15, 2009, titled Felipe Massa says Fernando Alonso knew about the Pique crash in Singapore. In it, Typically Spanish reports that:

Felipe Massa, the man who will be Fernando Alonso's teammate in Ferrari next season's Formula One, has said that he is sure that Fernando knew all about the set up crash by Nelsinho Piquet Jr.

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Nicole

Espoo, Finland

#21 Oct 16, 2009
Brad wrote:
Little Felipe is now backing down calling it a "hunch." I have a hunch that Felipe is a bit upset that Ferrari went out and got themselves a number one driver in Alonso, a driver who has won 2 titles, because Felipe has shown an inability to get the job done at Ferrari. My God even Kimi stepped right in and won a title. Felipe had one last year had he not thrown he car off track the first two races of the season getting zero points. Now the Cabana Boy is blaming Renault for his failure last year, not himself. Loser.
LOL

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Brad

Farmington, MI

#22 Oct 16, 2009
redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:
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Hey speaking of losers, how the hell are you Bradley .. how's that hope and change working out for you there in Michigan. hey hey don't be using God's name please. I thought you liberals were so against it all. as for Kimi stepping in, keep in mind it was Massa who gifted him the last win in Brazil that did it, I wouldn't be so quick condemning the cabana boy, he's still at Ferrari, and the drunken gorilla you idolized so much is history ... but of course Massa only has one year to prove himself ... oh wait where have I heard that before .. oh yes from your cockroach infested dump, you spewed the same shite out last year too, and the year before ... you jackass
Changing is working well here in Michigan and everywhere else in America. Exactly one year ago Bush and Paulson were telling us our system of gov't was about to completely collapse and if we didn't act quickly another depression was right around the corner. Thanks to our man Obama, we didn't slump into one. He's also trying to clean up George's' mess from the past 8 years. And what a mess it was!!!America was like an outlaw motorcycle gang the past 8 years, invading countries, torturing people, talking tough, etc. Obama has the good sense to go around the world basically apologizing for our appauling behavior. We're also,finally, doing something about important matters like education, the environment, health care, reduction of nuclear weapons,etc. George seemed to think all these things will work themselves out on there own. It's nice having someone intelligent steering the ship for a change. We've been lost at sea for the past 8 years. Obama will get us home.

“Let me be your Bhuda”

Since: Dec 07

Canada

#23 Oct 16, 2009
Brad wrote:
Little Felipe is now backing down calling it a "hunch." I have a hunch that Felipe is a bit upset that Ferrari went out and got themselves a number one driver in Alonso, a driver who has won 2 titles, because Felipe has shown an inability to get the job done at Ferrari. My God even Kimi stepped right in and won a title. Felipe had one last year had he not thrown he car off track the first two races of the season getting zero points. Now the Cabana Boy is blaming Renault for his failure last year, not himself. Loser.
Good Post Brad. Perfect !!!!
Nicole

Espoo, Finland

#24 Oct 16, 2009
This is the second time within a week that Massa gives that statement. I wonder if Ferrari can keep him in line in the future?

Brad, the statement on Ferrari's website might not even be written by Massa, it's probably drafted by Luca Colajanni, just like Kimi's statement on the website was. Ferrari website wrote in Kimi's name 'I'm very sad...' and Kimi corrected it to the Finnish media immediately saying he is not sad and he has not written the statement. So it's not that sure if Massa is backing down but I guess he will get a lecture on what to say to the media and what not to say.

Heikki Kulta from Turun Sanomat wrote a funny column about it yesterday. Please remember that he is slightly biased being a Finn but he might be right in saying that there can be a mental war - only SD promised that it would not happen. He might have his hands full of work as the season proceeds - or not.

DIFFERENT TUNE IN THE BELL
Turun Sanomat/Heikki Kulta
Brazilian GP-column 15.10.

After only two weeks when Ferrari had announced the change of driver for next season the new duo's pot that had been said to be hot, started murmuring.

Felipe Massa sat down to eat with the Brazilian media in Brazil and served for dessert his accusations at his new team mate Fernando Alonso for being part of Singapore conspiracy.

Massa said it's crystal clear that Alonso knew the strategies Renault set up in Singapore 2008. The Brazilian was mostly hurt by the fact that he saw that the deliberate crash stole his WDC last season.

I was as a guest at Ferrari's dinner party one day before Massa got hurt in Hungary. We only talked about nice things blissfully unknown about the fact that the Renault-conspiracy was about to come into daylight very soon.

Now I can only imagine the rush Ferrari's press manager Luca Colajanni was in as soon as he heard about Massa's accusation towards Alonso.

Very soon after the Brazilian media had gone to work on Ferrari's website appeared Massa's statement where he said that he was only having a hunch and that he approves completely FIA's results of the investigations where Alonso was said to know nothing about the whole conspiracy.

Go and tell. At Ferrari the tune in the bell where team mates are concerned changed at once. Massa and Kimi drove 44 GP's together without there relationship cracking even once like it cracked now and Massa and Alonso haven't even yet had their joint picture taken as Ferrari's drivers.

The Italian reporters where grateful during Japan GP now that Ferrari has for the first time in 18 years two perfect Italian speaking drivers. For the first time in 18 years the team also has two drivers with a latin temper.

One plus one means in this case that next season we can expect a very political mental war against one another.

At least Massa has already given us a foretaste telling he will not swallow without chewing the role that his buddy Rubens Barrichello had to play at Ferrari as Michael Schumacher's team mate.

“Let me be your Bhuda”

Since: Dec 07

Canada

#25 Oct 16, 2009
Nicole wrote:
This is the second time within a week that Massa gives that statement. I wonder if Ferrari can keep him in line in the future?
Brad, the statement on Ferrari's website might not even be written by Massa, it's probably drafted by Luca Colajanni, just like Kimi's statement on the website was. Ferrari website wrote in Kimi's name 'I'm very sad...' and Kimi corrected it to the Finnish media immediately saying he is not sad and he has not written the statement. So it's not that sure if Massa is backing down but I guess he will get a lecture on what to say to the media and what not to say.
Heikki Kulta from Turun Sanomat wrote a funny column about it yesterday. Please remember that he is slightly biased being a Finn but he might be right in saying that there can be a mental war - only SD promised that it would not happen. He might have his hands full of work as the season proceeds - or not.
DIFFERENT TUNE IN THE BELL
Turun Sanomat/Heikki Kulta
Brazilian GP-column 15.10.
After only two weeks when Ferrari had announced the change of driver for next season the new duo's pot that had been said to be hot, started murmuring.
I was as a guest at Ferrari's dinner party one day before Massa got hurt in Hungary. We only talked about nice things blissfully unknown about the fact that the Renault-conspiracy was about to come into daylight very soon.
Now I can only imagine the rush Ferrari's press manager Luca Colajanni was in as soon as he heard about Massa's accusation towards Alonso.
Very soon after the Brazilian media had gone to work on Ferrari's website appeared Massa's statement where he said that he was only having a hunch and that he approves completely FIA's results of the investigations where Alonso was said to know nothing about the whole conspiracy.
At least Massa has already given us a foretaste telling he will not swallow without chewing the role that his buddy Rubens Barrichello had to play at Ferrari as Michael Schumacher's team mate.
Hey Bhudaress. Think about how bad this is for the management of Ferrari and the Ferrari Sponsor, Satander. Satander openly declare their preference for Alonso, but say, that they leave the decision to Luca. Luca signs Alonso. Little chirp Massa makes this irrational and stupid statement. Ferrari cleaning up their act. They want to win and appear to be in great shape.

Massa does not see the implication of his accusation. He has had the sympathy and support for what happened to him. Now. all he appears to be is a crybaby with the unproven accusation that Alonso knew all along. I watched the race two nights ago Singapore, 08 and can't see with all the varaibles of what could have happened, that Alonso knew that he would be behind the safety car.

This is good for Alonso. He has just upgraded his status at Ferrari because of Massa's totally immaature thoughtless statement. Thanks dumbass Massa. Hope you get you tail kicked like Schumi did.

“F1”

Since: Jul 08

Roswell, GA

#26 Oct 16, 2009
this entire situation is so stupid.. \
Nicole

Espoo, Finland

#27 Oct 16, 2009
Shiraaz wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Bhudaress. Think about how bad this is for the management of Ferrari and the Ferrari Sponsor, Satander. Satander openly declare their preference for Alonso, but say, that they leave the decision to Luca. Luca signs Alonso. Little chirp Massa makes this irrational and stupid statement. Ferrari cleaning up their act. They want to win and appear to be in great shape.
Massa does not see the implication of his accusation. He has had the sympathy and support for what happened to him. Now. all he appears to be is a crybaby with the unproven accusation that Alonso knew all along. I watched the race two nights ago Singapore, 08 and can't see with all the varaibles of what could have happened, that Alonso knew that he would be behind the safety car.
This is good for Alonso. He has just upgraded his status at Ferrari because of Massa's totally immaature thoughtless statement. Thanks dumbass Massa. Hope you get you tail kicked like Schumi did.
You make a good point there Siraj, it is working in favour of Alonso if he doesn't take part in the argument.

But this is the first time when I've seen ferrari come out and overule Massa. He is an awkward place right now and this might actually be Massa's first time when he has to defend his place in the team. Alonso is a strong character and the message that has been sent to the world is that he is so important to ferrari that Kimi was bought out - Massa must be uncertain of his position.

When you think about it, Massa has a contract for next year, Alonso has for the next 3 + the option of 2, therefore if Massa plays his cards badly then he is the one who will be replaced if he doesn't get along with Alonso.

But when you think about it, the message Massa sends out right now is that Ferrari has hired a dirty driver - that alone gives the impression that he is not working for the team.

I hope he gets to terms with it before the season begins, too much of bad blood can ruin a lot and turn against him :(

Somebody should just tell Massa that he has the sympathy-card and should only play that one ;)

“Let me be your Bhuda”

Since: Dec 07

Canada

#28 Oct 16, 2009
Nicole wrote:
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You make a good point there Siraj, it is working in favour of Alonso if he doesn't take part in the argument.
But this is the first time when I've seen ferrari come out and overule Massa. He is an awkward place right now and this might actually be Massa's first time when he has to defend his place in the team. Alonso is a strong character and the message that has been sent to the world is that he is so important to ferrari that Kimi was bought out - Massa must be uncertain of his position.
When you think about it, Massa has a contract for next year, Alonso has for the next 3 + the option of 2, therefore if Massa plays his cards badly then he is the one who will be replaced if he doesn't get along with Alonso.
But when you think about it, the message Massa sends out right now is that Ferrari has hired a dirty driver - that alone gives the impression that he is not working for the team.
I hope he gets to terms with it before the season begins, too much of bad blood can ruin a lot and turn against him :(
Somebody should just tell Massa that he has the sympathy-card and should only play that one ;)
Your point is strong that Massa has only 1 year to go on his contract. Makes me wonder that it is possible that it would have been a public nightmare for Ferrari if they let Massa go.So to appear humane and descent folks, which they are not, they keep the little crybaby for their fan base.

It would have been too blatant and arrogant to have let Massa go. So they keep him. Ferrari are ruthless and arrogant and their team order open blatant rule is going to hell now that they have employed Alonso. If they try this with Alonso, it will never work. Massa is used to being Schumi's liitle tart, but Alonso do that for Massa? What a joke. It will never happen. I say Ferrari should have some doors ready for Alonso to kick down because it will happen if they use the same tactics that Schumi used on Barri and Massa.

Go Blondie. Wonder where you go, though?
Go Zonzo! We know where you are going and where you can go.

Since: Apr 08

Belfast, UK

#29 Oct 16, 2009
Massa is perhaps getting a tad frustrated at not being able to race for the remainder of this season and the press are picking up on his comments more than usual. Nothing really to worry about. A lot of hype over nothing.

Come next season, things will be in harmony at Ferrari...

;-P

“Is that Banjo Music I hear ...”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#30 Oct 16, 2009
Jorgen wrote:
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Can you give me one good reason why a double world champion would take any risk winning a totally insignificant racer (for him) to gain points that were going to do absolutely nothing for him except definately ruin his career if it was found out? It doesn' make any sense. Fernando has been around for a long time and knows as much as anybody that you can't keep secrets in F1. The story was leaked a long time ago and most people in the paddock knew that there was potentially 'something'. It was really only when FIA offered (and wrongly in my opinion) Pique jnr (stress very Junior!!) immunity and Renault fired him (he really wasn't good enough for F1!!!) that the cat got out of the sack.
Stop that crap about worshitters. Fernando has proven that he is one of the best (and in my view THE best) driver around. He is a double world champion (beating a fired up Michael Schumacher to the championship) and he has completely outgunned whatever teammate he has been paired with, except Hamilton, who btw had already spent 10 years with McLaren preparing for F1. If that is what it is being a Worshitter, then I happily join the ranks!!!
Alonso only cried foul about macca in 2007 when he as given immunity from Max and the FIA, no different to Piquet getting immunity for the 2008 deal, and sorry to say just a wrong. Alonso was receiving and using the info Stephney was providing macca for set ups.

The was the same way as he threw away the opportunity of actually winning for Macca in 2007 just because he was having his ass kicked. Alonso is not a team player, he needs to be the main peanut in the packet, and when that does not happen he loses his cool. 2007 is evidence of that, and of course we all know that in all his time at renault he really has never had a great temamate. Hamilton showed him up in 2007 and he cracked under the pressure, fell apart and looked like the idiot he is. I truly hope that does not happen next year, ferari will not take knidly to him threatening Stefano or Luca for numero uno status, and it's already been established that the Sicilian familia have made a pair of concrete shoes for the Spanish bull fighter, just in case he goes the whinging crying bitching route he did in 2007 with macca....

“Just love F1”

Since: Oct 07

Benavidez, Tigre

#31 Oct 16, 2009
redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:
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Alonso only cried foul about macca in 2007 when he as given immunity from Max and the FIA, no different to Piquet getting immunity for the 2008 deal, and sorry to say just a wrong. Alonso was receiving and using the info Stephney was providing macca for set ups....
False, inaccurate, biased and twisted !!!... pls Bob ... give the Johnny Blue a rest !!!

“Let me be your Bhuda”

Since: Dec 07

Canada

#32 Oct 16, 2009
O deary...deary..deary. Some guys are so blinded by hate that they make total idiots of themselves. They lose all credibility when they believe they have the ability to read minds, see through walls and predict the future.

They say good therapy for these afflictions is standing on your head naked in the sun, open wide and let it rip.

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