F1: Massa insists 'no problems' with Alonso

Oct 3, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Motorsport.com

Felipe Massa insists he has no problem with Ferrari's appointment of Fernando Alonso as his 2010 teammate.

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So Bob, what do you think? Will Massa and Alonso get along well?

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So Bob, what do you think? Will Massa and Alonso get along well?
Hi Nicole, if history is to be a guide, and if the Cabana Boy performs better than 6/10ths during qualifying and a race, it could lead to potential explosive problems for the Scuderia.
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Hi Nicole, if history is to be a guide, and if the Cabana Boy performs better than 6/10ths during qualifying and a race, it could lead to potential explosive problems for the Scuderia.
Hi Lawrence, I've been thinking in the same lines with you, a lot of potential land mines, emphasis on the word 'potential'.

Massa was talking last and this year that he is the driver number one and the team backed him up by staying quiet.

The question is that will there be immediately a power struggle, sort of both trying to get the team wrapped around them and with Schumacher in the middle.... I honestly don't know what will happen?

Somebody wrote on the Finnish forum that they are looking forward to next year's episodes of Serrano's family - LOL

But then again, things could go smoothly. I don't know, hard to say. So far Kimi has been able to be a team mate without creating any tension so I honestly believe that Kimi and Lewis will share mutual respect without any necessary drama.

Massa being injured gives him a lot of sympathy but then again Alonso finally in Ferrari is another huge thing. Can't wait to see how it turns out ;)

But I thought for a second that oh no, Ferrari has announced that they support Alonso and not Massa since on our website there was a headline 'Massa will not get Ferrari's support'- but it turned out to be Massa's complaints about losing points in Singapore and Domino (my new name) said that although he understands Massa's anger over it, Ferrari isn't going to take any legal actions and only wish that Massa would put it behind.

But it is going to be interesting to see and Lawrence, it would be so great to have Lewis and Kimi in the same team ;) I'm almost sure that it wouldn't create any tension between fans ;)

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Hi Nicole, if history is to be a guide, and if the Cabana Boy performs better than 6/10ths during qualifying and a race, it could lead to potential explosive problems for the Scuderia.
HISTORY ?????... just in one year in his almost 10 years in F1 he had a "problem" with his teammate (not proven ... just media speculation .. Alonso had a problem with RD and Mclaren, not with Lewis)

HISTORY ???... come on !!!... Tell us when in your history Alonso had a "problem" with another teammate !!!

.. The other way around is better .. Lewis in his FIRST YEAR had a problem with a teammate who outperformed him ... and HISTORY tells us that as long as his teammate underperforms he is ok with him ... that's why Lewis doesn't want Kimi in the team !!!!

... pls ... don't bring history ... you are going to loose !!!

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MASSA INSISTS ???... ha ha ha ... Why do you think he insists ???... because the Alonso haters (not you Nicole) keep asking him if he's going to get along ok with him !!!... Massa doesn't need to "insist" ... and there is no need to insist in the Alonso-ist eyes ... we know they are going to be better than fine ... the four of them (FA, FM, GF, MS) are going to get along great !!!

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I wonder how many newspapers they are going to sell with the expectation of a fight between them ...

This is the new tv .. the new media ... the is the "Big Brother" new style of news .. bring the non important issues .. we buy !!!

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Hi Lawrence, I've been thinking in the same lines with you, a lot of potential land mines, emphasis on the word 'potential'.
Massa was talking last and this year that he is the driver number one and the team backed him up by staying quiet.
The question is that will there be immediately a power struggle, sort of both trying to get the team wrapped around them and with Schumacher in the middle.... I honestly don't know what will happen?
Somebody wrote on the Finnish forum that they are looking forward to next year's episodes of Serrano's family - LOL
But then again, things could go smoothly. I don't know, hard to say. So far Kimi has been able to be a team mate without creating any tension so I honestly believe that Kimi and Lewis will share mutual respect without any necessary drama.
Massa being injured gives him a lot of sympathy but then again Alonso finally in Ferrari is another huge thing. Can't wait to see how it turns out ;)
But I thought for a second that oh no, Ferrari has announced that they support Alonso and not Massa since on our website there was a headline 'Massa will not get Ferrari's support'- but it turned out to be Massa's complaints about losing points in Singapore and Domino (my new name) said that although he understands Massa's anger over it, Ferrari isn't going to take any legal actions and only wish that Massa would put it behind.
But it is going to be interesting to see and Lawrence, it would be so great to have Lewis and Kimi in the same team ;) I'm almost sure that it wouldn't create any tension between fans ;)
Do you really think Massa was the #1 driver in Ferrari ??... you keep saying that. Honesty, from my heart and from the outside ... I never thought it that way !!

I can't believe you think the combination of Massa-Alonso is going to bring more trouble than Lewis-Kimi !!!.. unless you know that Kimi will just accept to be #2 .. as he was doing in (according to you) Ferrari
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Do you really think Massa was the #1 driver in Ferrari ??... you keep saying that. Honesty, from my heart and from the outside ... I never thought it that way !!
I can't believe you think the combination of Massa-Alonso is going to bring more trouble than Lewis-Kimi !!!.. unless you know that Kimi will just accept to be #2 .. as he was doing in (according to you) Ferrari
Well, Massa gave many statements and the Italian tifosi thought the same, that Massa had been given status 1 in the middle of the season 2008 and even MS backed up his words in his interviews.

Kimi had a clause in his contract that granted him equal treatment but what can he do? Start fighting and complaining in public? He is not that kind of a person, he just wants to do his job and have equal treatment.

This year, both Kimi and Stella objected to certain strategies that were doomed from the beginning but if Domino says that they will go with that, then they have to go with that. Domino is the boss afterall.

Lewis and Kimi, I see no problem there because I'm sure that Kimi and his managers will make sure that it says in the contract that he will get equal treatment - no question about it. And he knows the people from Macca better so I'm sure they will make it happen too.

Kimi did the best he could as driver number 2 in Ferrari, it must have been eating him alive from the inside but he is not the kind of guy who goes to the press. He complains within the team but if he doesn't get support - what can he do?

We see now that Kimi is the same driver he has always been - after Massa's accident.

Lewis won't complain about equal treatment, in fact Lewis wanted equal treatment in 2007 when he was ordered not to overtake Alonso in Monaco. That's where the problems began. Lewis wasn't after status number one but if you remember how well he did during his rookie year it's completely understandable, Ron probably thought that he would be learning and at the same time helping Alonso.

But for a competitive guy - no way you can settle for 2nd and believe me, neither will Kimi settle for 2nd.

Equal treatment ;)
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but ron uderestimated lewis performance level it exceeded it when a driver sighns a contract equal treatment and the teams put updates on one car usually the guinney pig to try out it only finds itself on the ,,,,, no one after its proof it works some teams hide this well the sum dont thegap between team mates grow hence team orders then start to apply alonso had a problem with a rookie he underestimated and ron d did the same alonso thort he was king he was but with the deviousness of what goes on in mclaren puts no value on equal treatmant
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ferrari mclaren who ever just wont to win two drivers in each team only one can be crowned as long as lewis is there nobody will beat him stay away kimi set up your own stall

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Well, Massa gave many statements and the Italian tifosi thought the same, that Massa had been given status 1 in the middle of the season 2008 and even MS backed up his words in his interviews.
Kimi had a clause in his contract that granted him equal treatment but what can he do? Start fighting and complaining in public? He is not that kind of a person, he just wants to do his job and have equal treatment.
This year, both Kimi and Stella objected to certain strategies that were doomed from the beginning but if Domino says that they will go with that, then they have to go with that. Domino is the boss afterall.
Lewis and Kimi, I see no problem there because I'm sure that Kimi and his managers will make sure that it says in the contract that he will get equal treatment - no question about it. And he knows the people from Macca better so I'm sure they will make it happen too.
Kimi did the best he could as driver number 2 in Ferrari, it must have been eating him alive from the inside but he is not the kind of guy who goes to the press. He complains within the team but if he doesn't get support - what can he do?
We see now that Kimi is the same driver he has always been - after Massa's accident.
Lewis won't complain about equal treatment, in fact Lewis wanted equal treatment in 2007 when he was ordered not to overtake Alonso in Monaco. That's where the problems began. Lewis wasn't after status number one but if you remember how well he did during his rookie year it's completely understandable, Ron probably thought that he would be learning and at the same time helping Alonso.
But for a competitive guy - no way you can settle for 2nd and believe me, neither will Kimi settle for 2nd.
Equal treatment ;)
It is not fair to say Kimi is up at his level just because Massa is not around !!.. it doesn't mean he's getting a different treatment.... give Massa some credit, he's quick, he's the best qualifier on the grid !!

I still don't see a difference in Ferrari .. but .. it's just my opinion !!!

Every driver wants fair treatment .. even Massa !!
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well when if he goes to mclaren after half way throu the season next year and history repeats itself again dont start moaning when it happens well done toyota the best option for kimi
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" F1: Massa insists 'no problems' with Alonso "

Hmm...I don't think, that they will be always in harmony...they are too hot-blooded, stubborn and proud to handle every difficult situation next year, and I am sure, there will be a lot of, with a cool head!

I think, there are a lot of people, who remember on their fight at Nürburgring in 2007 after the race! It's the est example....
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" F1: Massa insists 'no problems' with Alonso "
Hmm...I don't think, that they will be always in harmony...they are too hot-blooded, stubborn and proud to handle every difficult situation next year, and I am sure, there will be a lot of, with a cool head!
I think, there are a lot of people, who remember on their fight at Nürburgring in 2007 after the race! It's the est example....
i agree with u when one of them starts pulling a modest gap as weve seen in the past and presnt ie rubens this the case in all teams but people fail to acknowledge this for sum reason there is only one not a no 1 only one can win the title when the gap gets to size teams do what they have to do ilike fellipe but i think alonso is more internally controlled fellipe wears his heart on his sleeve i can see trouble ahead will they be glued together on points no i can c alonso getting abit more and fellipe staring to question the situation ferrari are no exception to any other team
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barry peers wrote:
<quoted text> i agree with u when one of them starts pulling a modest gap as weve seen in the past and presnt ie rubens this the case in all teams but people fail to acknowledge this for sum reason there is only one not a no 1 only one can win the title when the gap gets to size teams do what they have to do ilike fellipe but i think alonso is more internally controlled fellipe wears his heart on his sleeve i can see trouble ahead will they be glued together on points no i can c alonso getting abit more and fellipe staring to question the situation ferrari are no exception to any other team
Exactly my thought, in the end, Alonso will have the upper hand against Massa and Felipe will maybe starting rebelling against Ferrari policy. And the result of that all: Big chaos!
Regarding to harmony inside a team, Kimi is probably the best choice, cuz he doesn't make any revolution and is quite peaceful in handling with teammates....there is no doubt! That has to say his fans as well as his bashers.
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Exactly my thought, in the end, Alonso will have the upper hand against Massa and Felipe will maybe starting rebelling against Ferrari policy. And the result of that all: Big chaos!
Regarding to harmony inside a team, Kimi is probably the best choice, cuz he doesn't make any revolution and is quite peaceful in handling with teammates....there is no doubt! That has to say his fans as well as his bashers.
thats the first time i have agreed with u .because in there so called contract they will both b for the first time in over a decade at ferrari there wil b 2 no 1drivers no acceptd no 2 like irevine and rubens so i just hope that its not a bigger headline than the raceing as for kimi i think his personalitty wud b good for mclaren cause he accepts situations in his stried mayb he shud get abit more get up and go but heikies the same i cant see any differance between kimi and hieki both are layed back perfect for lewis
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<quoted text> thats the first time i have agreed with u .because in there so called contract they will both b for the first time in over a decade at ferrari there wil b 2 no 1drivers no acceptd no 2 like irevine and rubens so i just hope that its not a bigger headline than the raceing as for kimi i think his personalitty wud b good for mclaren cause he accepts situations in his stried mayb he shud get abit more get up and go but heikies the same i cant see any differance between kimi and hieki both are layed back perfect for lewis
Yeah, Heikki and Kimi are Finns and it seems to be their human nature to be obliging people, who haven't the intention to start struggles in their time, cuz they aren't interest in team politics, but only in doing their racing job well.
But there is nevertheless one difference I see between kimi and Heikki: Independent from the fact, that Kimi had already managed to win a world champion, it's quite obvious, that Kimi has higher chances to beat Lewis, cuz he has the coolness and he is more emotionless on track than Heikki ever was.....
So it would be great, if Macca will finally confirm Kimi as new driver and teammate of Lewis, cuz it's the best solution for all involved people. Kimi searches a team, who is competitive, what I can fully understand, cuz no driver of his status wants to drive in a little team, who is only able to fight in the midfield or at the end of the grid. And Macca know Kimi from his early years they and the relationship to him was never that bad, so they would have to champions in their team, two guys, who understand what does it mean to win a wdc and this experience can be only useful for Macca as well....
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Yeah, Heikki and Kimi are Finns and it seems to be their human nature to be obliging people, who haven't the intention to start struggles in their time, cuz they aren't interest in team politics, but only in doing their racing job well.
But there is nevertheless one difference I see between kimi and Heikki: Independent from the fact, that Kimi had already managed to win a world champion, it's quite obvious, that Kimi has higher chances to beat Lewis, cuz he has the coolness and he is more emotionless on track than Heikki ever was.....
So it would be great, if Macca will finally confirm Kimi as new driver and teammate of Lewis, cuz it's the best solution for all involved people. Kimi searches a team, who is competitive, what I can fully understand, cuz no driver of his status wants to drive in a little team, who is only able to fight in the midfield or at the end of the grid. And Macca know Kimi from his early years they and the relationship to him was never that bad, so they would have to champions in their team, two guys, who understand what does it mean to win a wdc and this experience can be only useful for Macca as well....
thats fair enough but do u honestly think he will get physical equal treatmant never mind contracts they are only worth the paper they are written on as weve just seen at ferrari i believe he wont its always been like that at mclaren david coulthard v mika kimi v montoya kimi v coulthard now lewis and heiki coulthards was a no 2 all of his career aprt from redbull he also kept qiert he new his position and roll in the team thats why i dont want him to go there iam ashamed to b english the only thing german on the car is the merc badge on the engine which is made hear in the uk by illmor

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So Bob, what do you think? Will Massa and Alonso get along well?
Nicole, I really couldn't give a rats ass if Alonso gets along with the freaking dumbass who cleans the motorhomes every day, Massa has established himself at Ferrari, not only as a good driver but as a great team player. Massa has nothing to prove, gain or accomplish, he is respected and accepted at Ferrari already, and at the end of the day it's all up to Alonos to prove. The facts are simple, in the past 3 seasons Alonso has looked like a second hand dumbass, he embarrassed himself and his reputation at macca in 2007, was questionable in the ethics line in 2008 with Crashgate and in 2009 has looked pretty clueless. Sure he has the talent, sure he has the know how, but the big problem will be if he can handle the fact that at Ferrari it's team first drivers second. Alonso will have to accept from day one that he is part of the organisation, he's not the kingpin, or the champ, and I think he will struggle with that. Now unlike the pissy Macca bunch and "the git" , if Alonso thinks he can stroll into Luca or Stefano's office demanding numero uno statu or else, he is very much mistaken. I know the boys in Sicily have already made a pair of designer concrete boots for the bull fighter just in case he tries his arrogance with the Scuderia, and if you think the worshitters were crying about El Torro's year with Maccca as being unfair blah blah blah, I can see them wailing like banshees this season when things don't go all is way, and believe me they won't go all his way.

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" F1: Massa insists 'no problems' with Alonso "
Hmm...I don't think, that they will be always in harmony...they are too hot-blooded, stubborn and proud to handle every difficult situation next year, and I am sure, there will be a lot of, with a cool head!
I think, there are a lot of people, who remember on their fight at Nürburgring in 2007 after the race! It's the est example....
... that's the best example yes !!!... and with the podium in Brazil last year you can see the whole picture!! That's the proof they can't talk to each other in the face and be ok ... they both have latin blood ... they can talk like that and next day be ok ... not with a British ... not with a Finn ... so, don't worry for Massa and Alonso (even if deep inside you want them to have problems)... worry for Kimi and Lewis !!

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