Spanish sponsor Santander to drop Mclaren in favour of Ferrari

[siberianlady]

Brad wrote:

Kimi may put you "sleep" when he talks, Massa puts us to "sleep' when he drives....unless, of course, it's raining, then he is as entertaining as a clown at the circus.

Then he is an ideal candidate to move to Macca.

[redneck Bob from Atlanta]

Brad wrote:

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You math is almost as bad as your opinions of F1 drivers. Alonso is 9th in the standings with 13 points in 9 races or 1.4 points per race, Felipe averages 5.3 or 4 points more per race on average....the difference is one is in the best car on the grid, the other in the 5th or 6th best car. Massa has won 3 races but he has also shockingly thrown it away 3 times, thereby reducing the value of those wins. Bad news for him and Ferrari is the season is only half over. Ferrari expect more than half good performances and half bad out of their drivers. Put Kubica, Alonso, Webber, Heidfeld in that bad-ass ride and you would have got a better result than 4th place last year and I doubt they would have thrown the damn thing away 3 times in 9 races this season. Massa is an average driver who needs a track to his liking and a perfect set-up or you get nothing.

Put Kimi in the same bracket as Massa then they both have the same amount of points, and pretty much the same types of finishes. Kimi threw it away in Monaco, big time, in Aussie he had engine failure and of course his rear ending by lewis not his fault for sure but still a non finish, Massa well he had engine failure in Aussie (certainly did not throw it away as you like to shout out), but yes he did throw it away in Bahrain, and Silverstone. Bottom line one driver you idolize and can do no wrong the other you lambaste as never doing anything right. and they have both had 3 failures and 3 wins. the end result the both equally shite or good depending who's eyes you're looking through, and both sit on the top of the WDC with the same amount of points. By the way nothing wrong with the math, I worked it to place finishes, you worked it to points per race. As for Massa needing a track to his liking, is that kind of like Kimi already making excuses for his previous bad showing in Germany and his possible failure this weekend (check out Nicole's report)?????

[Brad]

redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:

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Put Kimi in the same bracket as Massa then they both have the same amount of points, and pretty much the same types of finishes. Kimi threw it away in Monaco, big time, in Aussie he had engine failure and of course his rear ending by lewis not his fault for sure but still a non finish, Massa well he had engine failure in Aussie (certainly did not throw it away as you like to shout out), but yes he did throw it away in Bahrain, and Silverstone. Bottom line one driver you idolize and can do no wrong the other you lambaste as never doing anything right. and they have both had 3 failures and 3 wins. the end result the both equally shite or good depending who's eyes you're looking through, and both sit on the top of the WDC with the same amount of points. By the way nothing wrong with the math, I worked it to place finishes, you worked it to points per race. As for Massa needing a track to his liking, is that kind of like Kimi already making excuses for his previous bad showing in Germany and his possible failure this weekend (check out Nicole's report)?????

No that's not like it at all....Kimi wasn't happy with the car or particularly good last race either, but unlike Felipe he doesn't completely disappear when battling with a car...that's why he won a championship and Felipe finished a distant fourth last year. Not to mention the fact that Kimi was new to the team and Massa had a year under his belt with the Great Michael showing him the ropes.
Again, I don't understand your math. In F1 they go by a points system. 10 for the winner down to 1 for 8th. Alonso has 13 points. There has been 9 races. 8 drivers have more points. He averages 1.3 per race....so that means he averages an 8th place finish. Where does 12th come from?

[Brad]

You math sucks redneck. If you use place finishes Alonso average is 9.1 place (4th,8th,10th,14th,6th,10th,16 th,8th,6th)
Massa's place finish average is 6.4
(13th,19th,1st,2nd,1st,3rd,5th ,1st,13th).........so according to "your way" of tracking F1: Massa, in the best car on the grid averages a 6.4 place while Alonso, in a far worse car averages 9.1.....according to your numbers Massa sucks even worse than we thought.

[redneck Bob from Atlanta]

Brad wrote:

You math sucks redneck. If you use place finishes Alonso average is 9.1 place (4th,8th,10th,14th,6th,10th,16 th,8th,6th)
Massa's place finish average is 6.4
(13th,19th,1st,2nd,1st,3rd,5th ,1st,13th).........so according to "your way" of tracking F1: Massa, in the best car on the grid averages a 6.4 place while Alonso, in a far worse car averages 9.1.....according to your numbers Massa sucks even worse than we thought.

My Most humble apologies oh great preffesori, technical glitch, I used the DNF's as finishing in 20th place, rather than where they were actually classified. yes yes yes I'm a dumbass so what.

[Brad]

redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:

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My Most humble apologies oh great preffesori, technical glitch, I used the DNF's as finishing in 20th place, rather than where they were actually classified. yes yes yes I'm a dumbass so what.

All is forgiven redneck. Who really cares either way? As Benjamin Disraeli use to say;" there are lies, damn lies and statistics".(most people incorrect give Mark Twain credit for this quote)

[David Jones]

Brad wrote:

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All is forgiven redneck. Who really cares either way? As Benjamin Disraeli use to say;" there are lies, damn lies and statistics".(most people incorrect give Mark Twain credit for this quote)

and then there are false statistics.

[Go Fernando Go]

Doesn't every Lawyer own the book "How to lie with statistics"? and don't so many people here act like lawyers with a case to prove?(Hambo/Mclaren fans)

I Hate lawyers!!!!(liars)

[bob]

http://timesonline.typepad.com/formula_one/20...

lol!!:D

[bob]

Imagine the upset if they were partnered again :D

Bwahahahahahaha :D