Contact damages Kimi hopes.

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“It was a very difficult race for me, right from the beginning”

Kimi Raikkonen's chances of making the most of the annual race of attrition in Montreal were dented at the very start, after the Finn ran into the back of Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa's car and had to run the ... via Crash

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Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#1 Jun 12, 2007
You all see. Kimi gives the comment, says what happened to the car and why. And he does not blame anybody....that is a true race driver.
The funny thing is, Kimi was also struggling with understeer, the same as Alonso. And Kimi made about two or three mistakes.
Now Alonso on the other hand, was looking for parking at each corner!!!
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#2 Jun 12, 2007
Graham wrote:
You all see. Kimi gives the comment, says what happened to the car and why. And he does not blame anybody....that is a true race driver.
The funny thing is, Kimi was also struggling with understeer, the same as Alonso. And Kimi made about two or three mistakes.
Now Alonso on the other hand, was looking for parking at each corner!!!
A true racer?....Who would he blame? He's the one that hit the back end of his mate and was "lucky' that he didn't take them both out!! Montoya did the same thing to Kimi last year at Indy and you Kimi fans screamed bloody murder. Kimi hits his mate in the ass and you call him a "true racer".....I haven't seen much racing out of Kimi this year. Or last year now that I think about it. Instead of the Iceman he should be called the Invisible Man.
Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#3 Jun 12, 2007
Brad wrote:
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A true racer?....Who would he blame? He's the one that hit the back end of his mate and was "lucky' that he didn't take them both out!! Montoya did the same thing to Kimi last year at Indy and you Kimi fans screamed bloody murder. Kimi hits his mate in the ass and you call him a "true racer".....I haven't seen much racing out of Kimi this year. Or last year now that I think about it. Instead of the Iceman he should be called the Invisible Man.
So you did not watch the Melbourne race when he dominated the race, or the other races where he did finish on the podium. 1 or 2 races not doing good and everybody starts giving Kimi hell. I know you are all scared off the Ice Man doing good. That is why you all try and keep him pressed down when its not going his way!! But where is your Alonso? I hope you you all know that this thread has been going on since last year !! Go take a look at all your comments previously about your Alonso and how he never makes mistakes and drives perfect everytime!! That @sshole Alonso could not stay on the track!! They should name that apex after Alonso "Corner de Asshole Alonso"
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#4 Jun 12, 2007
Graham wrote:
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So you did not watch the Melbourne race when he dominated the race, or the other races where he did finish on the podium. 1 or 2 races not doing good and everybody starts giving Kimi hell. I know you are all scared off the Ice Man doing good. That is why you all try and keep him pressed down when its not going his way!! But where is your Alonso? I hope you you all know that this thread has been going on since last year !! Go take a look at all your comments previously about your Alonso and how he never makes mistakes and drives perfect everytime!! That @sshole Alonso could not stay on the track!! They should name that apex after Alonso "Corner de Asshole Alonso"
Where Alonso?....I think he's in 2nd place, 8 points out of the championship lead. I said in previous posts that Alonso didn't make many mistakes,qualified well and beat the shit out of his mate, that's why he won the titles...not because he was lucky. He drove a mistake filled race at Canada and Hamilton made him pay for it. Kimi didn't. That's as bad as Alonso has looked in years and Kimi gain 2 poulty points on him.
As far as Kimi goes, you say one or two races he didn't do so well.....I say he only did well in one. Australia. In Malaysia he let Hamilton get around him and followed behind him the rest of the race, in Bharain his mate outqualified him and then his mate won the race, in Spain he didn't even finish the race, in Monaco he fucked up qualifying and disappeared on race day, and Canada he hit his mate and disappeared the rest of the race......in short he has been a disaster. How do you see anybody being scared of mediocre performances like Kimi has been putting in? He's looking more and more like Ralf.
Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#5 Jun 12, 2007
Brad wrote:
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Where Alonso?....I think he's in 2nd place, 8 points out of the championship lead. I said in previous posts that Alonso didn't make many mistakes,qualified well and beat the shit out of his mate, that's why he won the titles...not because he was lucky. He drove a mistake filled race at Canada and Hamilton made him pay for it. Kimi didn't. That's as bad as Alonso has looked in years and Kimi gain 2 poulty points on him.
As far as Kimi goes, you say one or two races he didn't do so well.....I say he only did well in one. Australia. In Malaysia he let Hamilton get around him and followed behind him the rest of the race, in Bharain his mate outqualified him and then his mate won the race, in Spain he didn't even finish the race, in Monaco he fucked up qualifying and disappeared on race day, and Canada he hit his mate and disappeared the rest of the race......in short he has been a disaster. How do you see anybody being scared of mediocre performances like Kimi has been putting in? He's looking more and more like Ralf.
All I can say is, it is not over. The Ferrari's always kick in gear from Indianapolis then to Europe.
It is still long to go Brad.....time will tell my friend !!
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#6 Jun 12, 2007
Graham wrote:
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All I can say is, it is not over. The Ferrari's always kick in gear from Indianapolis then to Europe.
It is still long to go Brad.....time will tell my friend !!
To be completely honest with you Graham, I hope Kimi does get it together. I tease alot of his fans on this forum but F1 needs guys that hang their balls out and drive hard, not just overtaking in the pits and running risk free races. Kimi is exciting as hell when he's on. The problem is he just hasn't been on lately. I don't know if Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him or if he just needs more time to get his act together. Not too many drivers jump to new teams and look good right away.
Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#7 Jun 12, 2007
Brad wrote:
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To be completely honest with you Graham, I hope Kimi does get it together. I tease alot of his fans on this forum but F1 needs guys that hang their balls out and drive hard, not just overtaking in the pits and running risk free races. Kimi is exciting as hell when he's on. The problem is he just hasn't been on lately. I don't know if Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him or if he just needs more time to get his act together. Not too many drivers jump to new teams and look good right away.
So true, Massa used to first be test driver for Ferrrari it has taken him a while to get used to the tyres and car. Look at him now, very good driver now, but still has a lot of his moments.( Not consistent enough). Alonso is a good driver aswell, look at him in Canada, comes out from that 10 sec penalty and makes all that time to still end 7th ( brilliant) but he was pushing to hard , and the tyre pebbles got the best of him.
Jussi

Finland

#9 Jun 13, 2007
Brad wrote:
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Where Alonso?....I think he's in 2nd place, 8 points out of the championship lead. I said in previous posts that Alonso didn't make many mistakes,qualified well and beat the shit out of his mate, that's why he won the titles...not because he was lucky. He drove a mistake filled race at Canada and Hamilton made him pay for it. Kimi didn't. That's as bad as Alonso has looked in years and Kimi gain 2 poulty points on him.
As far as Kimi goes, you say one or two races he didn't do so well.....I say he only did well in one. Australia. In Malaysia he let Hamilton get around him and followed behind him the rest of the race, in Bharain his mate outqualified him and then his mate won the race, in Spain he didn't even finish the race, in Monaco he fucked up qualifying and disappeared on race day, and Canada he hit his mate and disappeared the rest of the race......in short he has been a disaster. How do you see anybody being scared of mediocre performances like Kimi has been putting in? He's looking more and more like Ralf.
Lot of visibility for mr Invisible :)
Jago

Montréal, Canada

#10 Jun 13, 2007
Brad wrote:
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To be completely honest with you Graham, I hope Kimi does get it together. I tease alot of his fans on this forum but F1 needs guys that hang their balls out and drive hard, not just overtaking in the pits and running risk free races. Kimi is exciting as hell when he's on. The problem is he just hasn't been on lately. I don't know if Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him or if he just needs more time to get his act together. Not too many drivers jump to new teams and look good right away.
To be copletly henest with you Brad , it is the first time that i read a comments from you that's make sense and you did it with respect !!! As Kimi's fan ,i dont know ether what is going on with Kimi lately . Cause it's obvious that we can see that he dont race like he use to race .He disapointed me alot, but it is hard for us to judge from the outside ,cause we dont really know what is going on !!! Like you said, maybe Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him , maybe he need more times , or maybe he lost some passion .Now ,maybe it's too late for him to catch up on point this season . But i still hope that he get his act together or his passion back soon !
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#11 Jun 13, 2007
Jago wrote:
<quoted text> To be copletly henest with you Brad , it is the first time that i read a comments from you that's make sense and you did it with respect !!! As Kimi's fan ,i dont know ether what is going on with Kimi lately . Cause it's obvious that we can see that he dont race like he use to race .He disapointed me alot, but it is hard for us to judge from the outside ,cause we dont really know what is going on !!! Like you said, maybe Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him , maybe he need more times , or maybe he lost some passion .Now ,maybe it's too late for him to catch up on point this season . But i still hope that he get his act together or his passion back soon !
Jago don't take what I say seriously. I'm just poking fun at you Kimi fans who had your hopes so high this season.
I like Kimi and always have. What I really like about him is the very things that everyone points to as flaws. I like the fact that he partys and runs in snowmobile races a week before the start of the season. Too many drivers in F1 today are corporate robots that are always looking to please the company.
Kimi is an individual, not a company boy. F1 needs that spirit. In the old days you had alot of drivers like Kimi, Senna,Mansell,Alesi just to name a few. Here's to Kimi rebounding this weekend. I'll be there and I can't wait.
Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#12 Jun 13, 2007
Jago wrote:
<quoted text> To be copletly henest with you Brad , it is the first time that i read a comments from you that's make sense and you did it with respect !!! As Kimi's fan ,i dont know ether what is going on with Kimi lately . Cause it's obvious that we can see that he dont race like he use to race .He disapointed me alot, but it is hard for us to judge from the outside ,cause we dont really know what is going on !!! Like you said, maybe Ferrari is simply a bad fit for him , maybe he need more times , or maybe he lost some passion .Now ,maybe it's too late for him to catch up on point this season . But i still hope that he get his act together or his passion back soon !
Hey Jago....

I have this feeling Idianapolis things are going to change for the better towards Kimi......

Wait and see...
Mika

Swindon, UK

#13 Jun 13, 2007
Graham wrote:
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Hey Jago....
I have this feeling Idianapolis things are going to change for the better towards Kimi......
Wait and see...
Kimi's championship hopes are over, he has more chance of Brad admitting his mums a slut and coming to terms with that, than kimi does of winning the world championship, you pricks need to learn that i am right and you lot all love to sleep with your mums and lick the juices that flow from her minge!!!!
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#14 Jun 13, 2007
Mika wrote:
<quoted text>Kimi's championship hopes are over, he has more chance of Brad admitting his mums a slut and coming to terms with that, than kimi does of winning the world championship, you pricks need to learn that i am right and you lot all love to sleep with your mums and lick the juices that flow from her minge!!!!
He's back and original as ever....Being that you are a huge supporter of Mclaren Chris/Mika/Fudgepacker I'm switching over to Kimi and Ferrari. Mclaren's drivers whine like little children about who's number one and who the team supports more and I find that pathetic. Kimi is a man's man- so you wouldn't have any real interest in him. GO KIMI GO!!!
hippy

London, UK

#15 Jun 13, 2007
Brad wrote:
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He's back and original as ever....Being that you are a huge supporter of Mclaren Chris/Mika/Fudgepacker I'm switching over to Kimi and Ferrari. Mclaren's drivers whine like little children about who's number one and who the team supports more and I find that pathetic. Kimi is a man's man- so you wouldn't have any real interest in him. GO KIMI GO!!!
Yes brad unfortunately the real Alonso is showing his true colours now he has an equal co pilot,nothing wrong with Hamiltons race on sunday it was Alonso who crumbled under the pressure.And i totaly agreed with Hamiltons statement regarding driver preference and the fact he wont hang about if that were the case good on him,they should have let him off the leash at Monaco(unfortunately for Alonso he took it mean he had no1 status unlucky got to beat your teammate now),we had to much of that old nonsence at Ferrari.Kimi has until silverstone to save his dreams of a world title,highly unlikely now i think,although they say nothings impossible...
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#16 Jun 13, 2007
hippy wrote:
<quoted text>Yes brad unfortunately the real Alonso is showing his true colours now he has an equal co pilot,nothing wrong with Hamiltons race on sunday it was Alonso who crumbled under the pressure.And i totaly agreed with Hamiltons statement regarding driver preference and the fact he wont hang about if that were the case good on him,they should have let him off the leash at Monaco(unfortunately for Alonso he took it mean he had no1 status unlucky got to beat your teammate now),we had to much of that old nonsence at Ferrari.Kimi has until silverstone to save his dreams of a world title,highly unlikely now i think,although they say nothings impossible...
I like Hamilton but I don't agree with his grips about Monaco. At Monaco you can't overtake. Period. If lame-ass Scott Speed was in front of Hamilton with 20 laps to go he couldn't have gotten by him. So even if the team told Hamilton to overtake Alonso he couldn't have done it on track. They would have wrecked. Hamilton needed to beat Alonso in qualifying. He didn't. So whining to the press that you're the number two guy because the team wouldn't let you attempt a pass on an unpassable track is weak.
hippy

London, UK

#17 Jun 13, 2007
I know its a team thing (we must have the points) but i would have loved to have seen them racing,i dont believe its not possible to over take around the streets of Monaco,we have seen great battles in previous years with wrecks being part of racing.Yet again it seems the fans were denied the spectacle of motor racing once more..enjoy the indy
Jago

Montréal, Canada

#18 Jun 13, 2007
Graham wrote:
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Hey Jago....
I have this feeling Idianapolis things are going to change for the better towards Kimi......
Wait and see...
I wish it too !! But there's another probleme ,Kimi get use to start pourly when the race biggin !!!
Graham

Pretoria, South Africa

#21 Jun 13, 2007
Brad wrote:
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He's back and original as ever....Being that you are a huge supporter of Mclaren Chris/Mika/Fudgepacker I'm switching over to Kimi and Ferrari. Mclaren's drivers whine like little children about who's number one and who the team supports more and I find that pathetic. Kimi is a man's man- so you wouldn't have any real interest in him. GO KIMI GO!!!
You must be shitting me!!! Are you being serious??
Jussi

Finland

#22 Jun 14, 2007
Brad wrote:
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I like Hamilton but I don't agree with his grips about Monaco. At Monaco you can't overtake. Period......if the team told Hamilton to overtake Alonso he couldn't have done it on track......So whining to the press that you're the number two guy because the team wouldn't let you attempt a pass on an unpassable track is weak.
Now there is the point. I been thinkin for a while what a press would be said IF Alonso would have become overtaken by Hamilton on track in Monaco... I quess words Team Order and Cheating could be used. So Macs situation was quite simple: do this, do that, you always do it wrong.

What becomes to Kimi and his drivin skills and committing and passion and things like that, its still there, he still got it. Brad was quite right when he mention about Kimis problems with car. For him car still under-steers too much, and Kimi really hates to drive a car like that. However they pretty much know where the problem is... so, lets wait and see.
Brad

Plymouth, MI

#23 Jun 14, 2007
Graham wrote:
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You must be shitting me!!! Are you being serious??
I'm serious. Kimi is the anti-modern day athlete. The modern day athlete's all remind me of businessmen. Secure big contracts, stay fit, don't drink, don't risk anything. They perform in this same manner. Remember the last race of the year in Brazil? Michael, the total businessman/athlete, needed to win his last race or he loses the title. His tire goes down, he falls way behind and he just decides to throw his balls out and go for it. I loved it. I wish he raced like that all the time. He has so much skill but he played everything too smart, too safe. I use to scream at the tv when Michael would have a car that was way faster than a car in front of him and he would sit and wait of the car to pit and turn quick laps with a clear track to gain position. It's smart, but not inspiring.
Kimi races like Michael did at Brazil all the time. He an individual who isn't "bought and paid for" by any company/team. He is dangerously close to being reckless but that makes him even more interesting. He drives like he lives...on the edge. We're lucky he's in F1. It would be a boring grid without him. GO KIMI.

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