Ferrari abandon Kers for China GP

Ferrari abandon Kers for China GP

There are 22 comments on the BBC News story from Apr 16, 2009, titled Ferrari abandon Kers for China GP. In it, BBC News reports that:

Struggling Ferrari will not use their energy storage and power boost system at the Chinese Grand Prix in a bid to get their season back on track.

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f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#1 Apr 16, 2009
Clever decision. They want to protect their drivers and mechanics against death by electric shock... That's nice...
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#3 Apr 16, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
Wrong!
Their cars are so slow they need to dump all the extra weight they can.. so Force India doesn't lap them at this race.
When your car is a dog, your pit crew are idiots and your #1 driver is a Finish(ed) tattoo drunk there is not much else left Ferrari can do.
That was an ironical comment. But, I think you must be a supporter of McLaren-Mercedes? Or Brawn GP??????
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#5 Apr 17, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
No team anymore since the end of 2006 (seriously)
Just an ex-SCHUMI fan who still watches F1 and cheers for nobody but bemoans the loss of brains at Ferrari.
Aha, an independent "observer"! I think, the problem of Ferrari is, that they are too convinced of their power. They think, they are invincble. That's the main point.

“Is that Banjo Music I hear ...”

Since: Jul 07

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#6 Apr 17, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
No team anymore since the end of 2006 (seriously)
Just an ex-SCHUMI fan who still watches F1 and cheers for nobody but bemoans the loss of brains at Ferrari.
Ex Schumie fan my butt!!!!... sorry diddly Bo Squat, you are an embarrassment to Schumie fans the world over with that type of logic. Keep in mind Schumie is still involved with ferrari, thinking that that there is a loss in brains at Ferrari kind of slaps the Schu in the face. Shows how dense you are .... dumbass.

“Is that Banjo Music I hear ...”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#7 Apr 17, 2009
f1-paddockbitch03 wrote:
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Aha, an independent "observer"! I think, the problem of Ferrari is, that they are too convinced of their power. They think, they are invincble. That's the main point.
the are invincible bitch..03 ..... still 15 races to go, just because they're having a bad start... don't write them off!!!! They will fight back, and they will kick butt. This is not the first time Ferrari are facing huge challenges, but hey they have not won 8 of the last 10 constructors thinking they are all powerful ... they are all powerful, and they will be back.

For the moment let the minnows enjoy the limelight, it won't last too long. I'm very happy for Ross Brawn, and his team. And I think maybe for once the FIA got it right, these rule changes have thrown everyone into the mix, and it makes for great racing. While I am a die hard Ferrari fan and I want to see the prancing ponies winning all the time, this season is going to do some fantastic things for the sport in general, and I look forward to the next 15 races.
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#8 Apr 17, 2009
redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:
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the are invincible bitch..03 ..... still 15 races to go, just because they're having a bad start... don't write them off!!!! They will fight back, and they will kick butt. This is not the first time Ferrari are facing huge challenges, but hey they have not won 8 of the last 10 constructors thinking they are all powerful ... they are all powerful, and they will be back.
For the moment let the minnows enjoy the limelight, it won't last too long. I'm very happy for Ross Brawn, and his team. And I think maybe for once the FIA got it right, these rule changes have thrown everyone into the mix, and it makes for great racing. While I am a die hard Ferrari fan and I want to see the prancing ponies winning all the time, this season is going to do some fantastic things for the sport in general, and I look forward to the next 15 races.
I'm happy, that you are a ferrari fan. I'm too. I also believe in their abilities. They know how to win, but it's visible (for me), that they sometimes forget to continue their work constantly, because they think, they are invincible. I wish them the best for the remaining season, a lot of points and especially a large number of victories. Who is your favorite. Massa or Raikkonen, redneck Bob from Atlanta?
ANTON

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#11 Apr 17, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
Friday Practice!! As I predicted....
-Adrian Sutil's Force India car- was faster than *both* Ferrari's in the 2nd Session.(Sutil was faster than Massa in the 1st session.)
Meanwhile all is fine on the good ship Ferrari (titanic) No need for the life-boats yet hey boob.
Predict whos goinna win the gp this week big mouth bo

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#13 Apr 17, 2009
f1-paddockbitch03 wrote:
Clever decision. They want to protect their drivers and mechanics against death by electric shock... That's nice...
Hey Paddock girl ;)

I wouldn't be so sure of it, Kimi always gives an interview after Friday practice and today he said this:

Räikkönen: We don't get anywhere
17.04.2009 13:54

Kimi Räikkönen admitted after Friday practice that the Ferrari-car lacks speed.

Räikkönen was after the 2nd practice 14:th 1,375 seconds behind Jenson Button.

- The car doesn't feel awfully bad either but we don't really get anywhere, Kimi said to MTV3.

Räikkönen doesn't think that Stefano Domenicali's decision that Ferrari won't use the KERS-device in China is definite.

- Let's see what he ends up thinking and what we'll do. Don't know yet, Räikkönen said.
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#14 Apr 17, 2009
Icegirl wrote:
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Hey Paddock girl ;)
I wouldn't be so sure of it, Kimi always gives an interview after Friday practice and today he said this:
Räikkönen: We don't get anywhere
17.04.2009 13:54
Kimi Räikkönen admitted after Friday practice that the Ferrari-car lacks speed.
Räikkönen was after the 2nd practice 14:th 1,375 seconds behind Jenson Button.
- The car doesn't feel awfully bad either but we don't really get anywhere, Kimi said to MTV3.
Räikkönen doesn't think that Stefano Domenicali's decision that Ferrari won't use the KERS-device in China is definite.
- Let's see what he ends up thinking and what we'll do. Don't know yet, Räikkönen said.
Icegirl, I haven't heard some interview of Kimi. Thanks for your information! Nevertheless I hope the best for Ferrari tomorrow and on Sunday. The qualifying will a lot of information about the state of the car without KERS at the one decisive lap. Hopely, we'll see Kimi in Q3. I pray for him!!! Maybe a miracle makes the car faster overnight...;-))

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#15 Apr 17, 2009
f1-paddockbitch03 wrote:
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Icegirl, I haven't heard some interview of Kimi. Thanks for your information! Nevertheless I hope the best for Ferrari tomorrow and on Sunday. The qualifying will a lot of information about the state of the car without KERS at the one decisive lap. Hopely, we'll see Kimi in Q3. I pray for him!!! Maybe a miracle makes the car faster overnight...;-))
Hey paddock girl (I can't call you a bitch!), the interview was in Finnish and it's translated. Kimi always gives to the Finnish media an interview after the practice. After the practice in Malaysia he said when asked why he jumped so fast out of the car when he had the KERS-problem that 'I just didn't feel like sitting one more extra second in a smoking car'- classic Kimi ;)
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#16 Apr 17, 2009
Icegirl wrote:
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Hey paddock girl (I can't call you a bitch!), the interview was in Finnish and it's translated. Kimi always gives to the Finnish media an interview after the practice. After the practice in Malaysia he said when asked why he jumped so fast out of the car when he had the KERS-problem that 'I just didn't feel like sitting one more extra second in a smoking car'- classic Kimi ;)
'I just didn't feel like sitting one more extra second in a smoking car'. That's typical kimi. I like his certain comments in the interviews. Everyone knows, that he doesn't want to speak with press, but he always have a ironical or funny argument ready. Like in Brazil 2006, when he was asked, where he was at the ceremonie for Schumacher. Kimi look at Martin Brundle and said with his emotionless way: "I was having a shit!"
I watch that video 5 times in a row!
I'm sure, that you know that one ;-))

Since: Aug 08

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#17 Apr 17, 2009
f1-paddockbitch03 wrote:
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'I just didn't feel like sitting one more extra second in a smoking car'. That's typical kimi. I like his certain comments in the interviews. Everyone knows, that he doesn't want to speak with press, but he always have a ironical or funny argument ready. Like in Brazil 2006, when he was asked, where he was at the ceremonie for Schumacher. Kimi look at Martin Brundle and said with his emotionless way: "I was having a shit!"
I watch that video 5 times in a row!
I'm sure, that you know that one ;-))
Yes, I know that one. And he is so straight that he doesn't start explaining or anything and it was definitely not meant to be disrespective to Schumacher.

I love this one:

Q: Kimi, what would you do if you met an alien?

Kimi: The problem won't arise so I don't think about it.

LOL
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#18 Apr 17, 2009
Icegirl wrote:
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Yes, I know that one. And he is so straight that he doesn't start explaining or anything and it was definitely not meant to be disrespective to Schumacher.
I love this one:
Q: Kimi, what would you do if you met an alien?
Kimi: The problem won't arise so I don't think about it.
LOL
That's fantastic. I love it!
Or that one (Malaysia 2008, press conference after the race, Kimi won :-)):
Q: Kimi, you've got champagne in your eye!
A: Yeah, I know that we should put it in the mouth and not in the eye!

Very funny, that guy!!
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#20 Apr 18, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
Nice Kimi Jokes, How about this one.
Q) Kimi Tell us... What your wife say when she found drunk & passed out in a bed with 2 naked women.
A) I don't know, she still not talking to me!!
Whoops...Guess who's not at the Shanghai race besides me andd Redneck booob from Atlanta this weekend.
That's funny! Kimi is always emotionless. Also in the moment while cheating Jenni. That's great!

“Just love F1”

Since: Oct 07

Benavidez, Tigre

#21 Apr 18, 2009
Vettel just did 11 laps in qualy ... 1 in Q2 and 1 en Q1 ... very risky ..was it because of tyre savings?

Also it seems that the front runners are ligther.

The first car running with KERS is Lewis' at P9 ...so, we could have surprises tomorrow
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#22 Apr 18, 2009
Montoya4ever wrote:
Vettel just did 11 laps in qualy ... 1 in Q2 and 1 en Q1 ... very risky ..was it because of tyre savings?
Also it seems that the front runners are ligther.
The first car running with KERS is Lewis' at P9 ...so, we could have surprises tomorrow
hi montoya4ever, you are right. The cars in the front are very light.
Here are the fuel amounts:
Heikki Kovalainen 697,9 kg
Nelsinho Piquet 697,9 kg
Felipe Massa 690,0 kg
Sebastien Bourdais 690,0 kg
Kazuki Nakajima 682,7 kg
Giancarlo Fisichella 679,5 kg
Lewis Hamilton 679,0 kg
Nick Heidfeld 679,0 kg
Kimi Räikkönen 673,5 kg
Sebastien Buemi 673,0 kg
Jarno Trulli 664,5 kg
Rubens Barrichello 661,0 kg
Robert Kubica 659,0 kg
Jenson Button 659,0 kg
Timo Glock 652,0 kg
Nico Rosberg 650,5 kg
Adrian Sutil 648,8 kg
Mark Webber 646,5 kg
Sebastian Vettel 644,0 kg
Fernando Alonso 637,0 kg

It was, how I expected. Obviously, the cars in the front will have a 3-stop-strategy or 2 stops with an extreme short first stint.

“F1 the ultimate sport ”

Since: Jan 07

South Africa

#23 Apr 18, 2009
f1-paddockbitch03 wrote:
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hi montoya4ever, you are right. The cars in the front are very light.
Here are the fuel amounts:
Heikki Kovalainen 697,9 kg
Nelsinho Piquet 697,9 kg
Felipe Massa 690,0 kg
Sebastien Bourdais 690,0 kg
Kazuki Nakajima 682,7 kg
Giancarlo Fisichella 679,5 kg
Lewis Hamilton 679,0 kg
Nick Heidfeld 679,0 kg
Kimi Räikkönen 673,5 kg
Sebastien Buemi 673,0 kg
Jarno Trulli 664,5 kg
Rubens Barrichello 661,0 kg
Robert Kubica 659,0 kg
Jenson Button 659,0 kg
Timo Glock 652,0 kg
Nico Rosberg 650,5 kg
Adrian Sutil 648,8 kg
Mark Webber 646,5 kg
Sebastian Vettel 644,0 kg
Fernando Alonso 637,0 kg
It was, how I expected. Obviously, the cars in the front will have a 3-stop-strategy or 2 stops with an extreme short first stint.
Dont forget many races have been won on a three stopper . A constsant .1 of a second extends a lead in no time , so dont be to quick to judge the cars that are lighter . If the other cars were the same weight you would find the times very similar.

Since: Feb 07

Seinajoki

#25 Apr 18, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
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Schumi once won a race on a 'pre-planned 4 stopper'!
Yes, that happened in Magny-Cours France, 2004.

"When Michael stopped very early, I think the team was surprised," Alonso said. "I was surprised. Michael was pushing hard and it was impossible to keep the pace."

On a clear, sunny day, Schumacher pitted on the 11th, 29th, 42nd and 58th laps. The German took the lead on the 33rd of the 70 laps on the 2.74-mile circuit. Alonso pitted on the 14th, 32nd and 46th and gave up the lead to Schumacher after the second pit stop.

"Before the start I was not so optimistic," Schumacher said. "Then, after the second stop, we decided to switch to a four-stop strategy."

In Donington Park 1993 Alain Prost took 3rd place with 7 stops - although he did made himself a clown. It was raining and Senna was absolutely stunning.
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#27 Apr 18, 2009
Jussi wrote:
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Yes, that happened in Magny-Cours France, 2004.
"When Michael stopped very early, I think the team was surprised," Alonso said. "I was surprised. Michael was pushing hard and it was impossible to keep the pace."
On a clear, sunny day, Schumacher pitted on the 11th, 29th, 42nd and 58th laps. The German took the lead on the 33rd of the 70 laps on the 2.74-mile circuit. Alonso pitted on the 14th, 32nd and 46th and gave up the lead to Schumacher after the second pit stop.
"Before the start I was not so optimistic," Schumacher said. "Then, after the second stop, we decided to switch to a four-stop strategy."
In Donington Park 1993 Alain Prost took 3rd place with 7 stops - although he did made himself a clown. It was raining and Senna was absolutely stunning.
Your example is the best to show, that tomorrow someone like Vettel or maybe Alonso will win. I hope, it will be so. I don't like the Brawns, although a victory of Kimi will be the best result. But I'm not a dream. Or maybe, the rain will help him?!

Since: Feb 07

Seinajoki

#28 Apr 18, 2009
Bo Smith wrote:
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Thanks for the info - sincerely. But beware of redneck booooooob from Atlanta. Only he(her) is allowed to provide SCHUMI & Ferrari facts. Lest us pee-ons screw up his/her version of history.
<quoted text>
Interesting and no doubt correct! But I don't remember this race. I should.
P.s. Do you think Donington will be ready in 2010??
I know bob´s slightly prickly style to criticise, but it don´t bother me.

Here´s a clip at the first lap, Senna´s red/white Macca is fourth at the beginning, watch him.


Donington 2010... I don´t know, it´s pretty soon, depression on and so on, but I really hope they can do it.

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