0-2 Jets, Giants appear to be going n...

0-2 Jets, Giants appear to be going nowhere -

There are 14 comments on the Newsday story from Sep 18, 2007, titled 0-2 Jets, Giants appear to be going nowhere -. In it, Newsday reports that:

The last time it was this bad around here was 1996, when Rich Kotite's Jets were in their death spiral and lame-duck Giants coach Dan Reeves was trying to win games with Dave Brown as his quarterback.

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Wayne, NJ

#1 Sep 18, 2007
Glauber, before writing the Jets off for dead, please remember that the Patriots appear to be far and away the best team in football, while the Ravens were coming off a 13-3 season and hosting the Jets for their home opener. I'm not sure if it was a slow sports news-cycle this week, but to write the Jets off after the first two games (probably the hardest two games in their entire schedule) is completely absurd.

United States

#2 Sep 18, 2007
This was a horrible article. The fourth quarter of JETS game showed the team is headed in right direction. Mangini is not Rich Kotite. Biggest mistakes 3-4 d with 4-3 personel. Kendell let go over a million which was probably promised to him
G Miter


#3 Sep 18, 2007
Have to agree with Chris. Jets have an uphill climb to be sure. But the fork is in the Giants. That is a very, very bad football team.

United States

#4 Sep 18, 2007
We knew the Pats and Ravens (away) were going to tough. Next three are winnable. I predict 3-2 for the Jets.
Mark Barnathan

Colonia, NJ

#5 Sep 18, 2007
Maybe it's about time the Jets play to their defensive strengths and play a 4-3 to create some pressure on oppossing QB's

New York, NY

#6 Sep 18, 2007
Mets are mediocre
Jets are mediocre

if the Mets and Jets organizations want to get serious in terms of being a champion, they need to make painful decisions, starting with replacing the manager and the quarterback respectively
Richie G

Eugene, OR

#7 Sep 18, 2007
Dead man squawking
How is it that Mr Coughlin is even coaching at all this season. It was absolutely clear that he had 'lost his team' last year, so whoever chose to bring him back for another go-round needs to share in the blame, if not take the lion's share. The Giants need to start again in the post-strahan, post-tiki post-coughlin era. This season has 'debacle' written all over it.
Eric Smith


#8 Sep 18, 2007
The silver lining in all of this is that after week 5 we'l know that at least one of these teams has won a game (assuming of course the game doesn't end in a tie, a distinct possibility since given the fact that they can't beat anybody else, who's to say they can beat each other?)
G Miter


#9 Sep 18, 2007
True enough, Richie, the pivotal question is can Reese right the ship? Unless his plan was to tank this season in rebuilding mode I see no reason to think he has the ability to build a competitive roster. His drafts have been weak for years, this season was no different. The Demps cut was odd given the shocking lack of talent in the secondary. I give the entire organization a no confidence vote. Best that fans start to stay home now, force ownership to take notice.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#10 Sep 18, 2007
sully wrote:
This was a horrible article. The fourth quarter of JETS game showed the team is headed in right direction. Mangini is not Rich Kotite. Biggest mistakes 3-4 d with 4-3 personel. Kendell let go over a million which was probably promised to him
I agree with you completely about playing the 3-4 with 4-3 players. Vilma, Robertson and Ellis are lost out there. They are also the most overrated players on the Jets. I said this in one of my comments a few weeks ago that the Jets will be sorry for screwing with Kendall.
Jet Fan

Boston, MA

#11 Sep 18, 2007
I too believe it was a horrible article. Comparing these Jets to the Kotite Jets is absurd. Rich Kotite made me realize, what the meaning of "tortured Jet fan" was, and the one and only time I almost gave up on the organization. I was humiliated, and ashamed to wear green , and white. But, these Jets are different; they’re a promissory note of future respectability. The organization is committed to winning, and will do anything and everything that has to be done to achieve it; and that my friends, makes me extremely proud to wear the green and white.
The Truth Speaks

Teaneck, NJ

#12 Sep 19, 2007
The injuries Tom Coughlin has to deal with has significantly affected this team. Losing Tiki Barber and the other egomaniac Strahan has further disrupted and caused a gaping hole in this team. As much as anyone wants to rip Coughlin, there isn't a coach around that could get out much more with 7 players going on IR and having lost 2 All Pros at the beginning of the season. End of that story. Regarding Reeves v. Kotite, it wasn't close. Look at the numbers of Reeves guys - much less than the Jets side and he actually won 6 games.
Coughlin MUST Go

Pompano Beach, FL

#13 Sep 20, 2007
I have to agree 100% with Richie G.

How in the world is this Couglin still coaching the Giants? Forget the fact that he "lost" the team last year - how about the fact that he is clueless when it comes to the offense? I know he's a big fan of the running game, but look at where that has gotten us ...

He's got weapons on offense aside from the running backs. What is he waiting for to turn Manning, Burress, Shockey, et al loose on the league? Burress is a dynamic receiver, Manning (though no Peyton) is a decent quaterback, and Shockey is a menace on the short over the middle catch-and-run plays ... I say turn 'em loose.

But no matter what - they need to fire Coughlin's lame *SS and get a coach who knows what they are doing next year - not a recycled/retread from an era gone by. Coughlin's style will not work in today's NFL. They need to go out and get themselves real coach for a change. For role model franchises, look no further than Indy, New England (yeah, yeah - go ahead with the cheater stuff - but the guy is a winner), Pitt (up 'til this year) and Miami (ha ha ha - just kidding).

Chattanooga, TN

#14 Sep 21, 2007
Glauber: You must hate Mangenious. In all your wisdom and knowledge you dare to compare a loser like Kotite( TOTAL: 4 Wins in 28 Lost for a grand total of 12.24 percent) to Mangini 10 Wins 8 Lost for a total of about 60 prcent). Glauber wake up and smell the fresh air. When we go to the play-offs this year, we Jet fans do not want you jumping on the band wagon. Stay away!!

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