Harris out to prove he can handle 3-4

GREEN BAY -- Al Harris, predictably, was emotional about it. Dom Capers, just as predictably, was philosophical about it.

[GBPfan]

TT failed to put together the players capable of getting to and winning the Superbowl in 2007, when the Packers had the easiest schedule in the NFL, amazingly few injuries and Favre was MVP runner up. The difference between now and then is that most of the experienced veteran starters are gone and the defense has nosedived. In addition, some of the past productive players, such as Harris and Kampman, are two years older and must adapt to roles they are unaccustomed to. There may still be a few fans that have faith in TT and MM, but there can't be many players left with any faith or confidence in either one. Four years of experiencing mostly failure and losing has that effect on players.

[eric]

of course don't forget the fact it was a FAVRE INT in OT that cost us ( or put NY in position for the game winning FG in OT that cost us) the SB visit,but,we wont mention that will we? Just criticize a team Ted help build that got us to that game.

[eric]

Harris will do fine,yes they are a year older now,so Pat Lee and Tremon WIlliams will have to step it up if C.W. or A.H. get hurt.and Williams proved he can play,while Lee hasnt had a big opp. as of yet

[normallylikeyell ow]

OH----GAWD eric!!!! This thread isn't about Favre. Ugh!!! Al Harris is a great player. He'll adapt, no problem. Only father time is against him.

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

of course don't forget the fact it was a FAVRE INT in OT that cost us ( or put NY in position for the game winning FG in OT that cost us) the SB visit,but,we wont mention that will we? Just criticize a team Ted help build that got us to that game.

No, WE won't mention that. Just you. You really need professional help. Your obsession with Favre is a sickness. And I didn't criticize the team. You did by criticizing it's QB. All I did was point out that even under the most advantageous of circumstances TT was unable to build a championship team. Without those circumstances, TT has the Packers averaging 6 wins and resting comfortably at home in January. Sorry that you are too childish to accept the truth. You really need to grow up.

[eric]

boy you are clueless.TT had a NFC title team perhaps if Favre didnt INT us out of it.
Sorry bro you are the jackass that criticized Ted for not building a championship team in 07 when your boy INT cost us perhaps a trip Ted didnt throw the football that day did he?

[eric]

normallylikeyellow wrote:

OH----GAWD eric!!!! This thread isn't about Favre. Ugh!!! Al Harris is a great player. He'll adapt, no problem. Only father time is against him.

that is true on all counts.Driver is getting abit on the old side with all the hits,i just think its getting old that he is after his 3rd contract renew in 3 years. as far as BF read the top entry and you can see where im coming from.Critisizing Ted for not having a championship team in 07 is absolutely stupid considering how we lost that game in OT when someone threw into a covered WR.

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

boy you are clueless.TT had a NFC title team perhaps if Favre didnt INT us out of it.
Sorry bro you are the jackass that criticized Ted for not building a championship team in 07 when your boy INT cost us perhaps a trip Ted didnt throw the football that day did he?

No, Ted didn't throw the OT INT. He also didn't play in any of the 14 games the Packers won in the regular season and playoffs. And he didn't lead the Packers into the OT. Nor did TT accomplish anything on the football field to merit being runner up in MVP voting in 2007. It was Brett Favre that did those things.

It was TT that failed to build a championship team in 2007 though. That is a simple fact. It is completely true and undeniable. I am sorry that you are too immature to accept the truth. You can throw all the little hissy fits that you want. It won't change the facts. Your hatred of Brett Favre will NEVER change the fact that Ted Thompson is a loser and a failure.

When will you get it through your childish mind that the two things are completely unrelated. The Packers lost with Favre under TT's management. The Packers lost with Rodgers under TT's management. The only constants are Ted Thompson and losing. It has nothing to do with Favre. It has nothing to do with Rodgers. Now grow up, let it go and move on already.

[eric]

sorry it was your clearly clueless attitude to where i had to explain you cant belame Ted for 07 when your boy cost us the SB with an INT thats fact.Ted didnt produce a championship because your boy got picked in OT thats Fact! You mentioned 07 not me and thats how it ended FACT!

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

sorry it was your clearly clueless attitude to where i had to explain you cant belame Ted for 07 when your boy cost us the SB with an INT thats fact.Ted didnt produce a championship because your boy got picked in OT thats Fact! You mentioned 07 not me and thats how it ended FACT!

Thanks for the explanation of how the season ended. I'm sure we all needed you to remind us. Again, it doesn't change the fact that Ted Thompson is a loser and a failure as a GM. According to you, TT should have replaced Favre even sooner. His failure to do so, would just be one additional failure by TT.

[eric]

my point is im guessing you werent to upset with Ted and his staff when the Packers went 13-3 right?

Yes 4-12 sucked but everyone expected it as we were rebuilding the team,,,went to 8-8 a nice progression and year 3 13-3 not to bad and im sure you werent bitching to much there were you?
after his first year of rebuilding Ted has been 27-21 which is well over 500%
im not counting the 4-12 as ted had to not resign some vets as we were over the cap and pushing the cap and looking back Rivera retired a few years later with a back,Wahle was released by Carolina so maybe Ted did the right move there.of course that would require Ted receiving some credit which im sure your not man enough to deal with are you?

[gbdave]

GBPfan wrote:

<quoted text>
No, WE won't mention that. Just you. You really need professional help. Your obsession with Favre is a sickness. And I didn't criticize the team. You did by criticizing it's QB. All I did was point out that even under the most advantageous of circumstances TT was unable to build a championship team. Without those circumstances, TT has the Packers averaging 6 wins and resting comfortably at home in January. Sorry that you are too childish to accept the truth. You really need to grow up.

I see he did not mention the run D, the pass D, the 25 or so yards rushing on very few tries,this after the big MM says we must run the ball . He will allways over look those other factors with Favre's games but not now with AR. Packer Plus paper went through 8 close games from last year and out of them said AR failed to comr through in 5. And you are right he will not get over but tells everyone else to. Its 2 years now .

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

my point is im guessing you werent to upset with Ted and his staff when the Packers went 13-3 right?
Yes 4-12 sucked but everyone expected it as we were rebuilding the team,,,went to 8-8 a nice progression and year 3 13-3 not to bad and im sure you werent bitching to much there were you?
after his first year of rebuilding Ted has been 27-21 which is well over 500%
im not counting the 4-12 as ted had to not resign some vets as we were over the cap and pushing the cap and looking back Rivera retired a few years later with a back,Wahle was released by Carolina so maybe Ted did the right move there.of course that would require Ted receiving some credit which im sure your not man enough to deal with are you?

You can whine, you can throw hissy fits, you can ignore facts and entire seasons, you can get angry at Brett Favre. None of those things will EVER change the fact that Ted Thompson is a loser and failure as a GM. Grow up and learn to accept the truth.

[eric]

I did accept the truth! i proved it,read on McDuff,i proved it,Face it Ted is a good GM,ive proved it with numbers,i threw no hissy fits,your asinine attitude doesn't deserve a fit of any sort,Speaking of growing up,you seem to be the one commenting on everything i say,so why don't you grow up,get a life,stop letting your anti Ted/he ran my hero out of town attitude cloud what respect you might have left here so it may remain in tact, bring something else to the table besides your every brilliant Ted sucks as a GM,which is your answer to all problems.

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

I did accept the truth! i proved it,read on McDuff,i proved it,Face it Ted is a good GM,ive proved it with numbers,i threw no hissy fits,your asinine attitude doesn't deserve a fit of any sort,Speaking of growing up,you seem to be the one commenting on everything i say,so why don't you grow up,get a life,stop letting your anti Ted/he ran my hero out of town attitude cloud what respect you might have left here so it may remain in tact, bring something else to the table besides your every brilliant Ted sucks as a GM,which is your answer to all problems.

Getting rid of Ted Thompson won't solve "all problems." However, it will help to solve the Packers losing problem. I know you TT lovers don't consider losing a problem, but the true Packer fans do.

[eric]

i consider losing a problem as well you are just to anti ted to make an honest assessment of the situation.Yes if they have a losing season this year,they should consider going another direction,but one losing season in 3 doesn't make him a bad GM,that's the point!

[normallylikeyell ow]

eric wrote:

<quoted text>that is true on all counts.Driver is getting abit on the old side with all the hits,i just think its getting old that he is after his 3rd contract renew in 3 years. as far as BF read the top entry and you can see where im coming from.Critisizing Ted for not having a championship team in 07 is absolutely stupid considering how we lost that game in OT when someone threw into a covered WR.

Gotcha. I'm with you on that last point, taking nothing away from the great year BF had to get us there. Driver wants out IMO.

[GBPfan]

eric wrote:

but one losing season in 3 doesn't make him a bad GM

IF there had been only one losing season I might agree. But as usual, you are incapable of accepting or even acknowledging the truth. There has been 3 losing season's out of 4. There has only been one winning season. Grow up! Your lies, your delusions; your ignoring the losing, will NEVER change the fact that Ted Thompson is a loser and failure as a GM.

[eric]

4-12
8-8
13-3
6-10
so 3 losing seasons right?
talking of delusions thats 2 losing seasons,the first was a rebuild after gutting the team with cap problems which every team goes through.so if you take out the first year,which i do with every team with a new GM or teams with cap problems,thats 1 losing season
if you dont
ok
how do you get 3 losing seasons out of these records?,Yes 1 winning season and 1 500% season which isnt a losing season and considering many then said it would take 4 5 years to get to the winning track and ted did it in 3 not bad,now we fell back last year and will have to bounce back,again every team goes through it from time to time,health is an important factor

[eric]

is it steller, no but the first year with 30+ rookies or 2nd year players because of cap problems to the NFC title game in 3 years,not bad at all.