Jerry Angelo's Bears legacy may be on...

Jerry Angelo's Bears legacy may be on line in NFL Draft

There are 43 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Apr 24, 2008, titled Jerry Angelo's Bears legacy may be on line in NFL Draft. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

There was the day he fired Dick Jauron and the day he hired Lovie Smith . There was the day he pried free-agent tackle John Tait away from the Kansas City Chiefs to fix the offensive line and the day he drafted ...

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Arnie

Duluth, GA

#1 Apr 25, 2008
They also wiffed on not getting free angent Faneca from Pittsburgh. Draft a solid Tackle and give the team to Orton from day one and lets see what happens. But for Gods sake don't but Mr. Red jersey Grossman back there again.
northside mike

Chicago, IL

#2 Apr 25, 2008
Angelo's idea that he can draft 4 starters says a lot about the Bear talent level. I am even more afraid than before!
Good Luck

Leawood, KS

#3 Apr 25, 2008
Arnie wrote:
They also wiffed on not getting free angent Faneca from Pittsburgh. Draft a solid Tackle and give the team to Orton from day one and lets see what happens. But for Gods sake don't but Mr. Red jersey Grossman back there again.
When camp starts and there is a competition for the starting QB Grossman will win.....I am not saying he is the answer or fot that matter any good but he is a much better QB then Orton. Everybody at Halas already knows this. So Arnie might as well get use to it now.
Bob Pifferini -Jimmy Gunn

Schaumburg, IL

#4 Apr 25, 2008
All this OT propaganda. Everybody knows there are quality offensive linemen available in the 2nd round.I think they should trade a few 2nd round picks for another 1st rounder. Draft Mendenhall & OT.
Get Real

Chicago, IL

#5 Apr 25, 2008
I'm tired of hearing that Angelo deserves credit for the 2006 team. The organization was lucky that the NFC North and the NFC were both weak in that season. There were at least four AFC teams that were better (Colts, Patriots, Ravens, Chargers). Once the NFC and the NFC north improved in 2007, the Bears returned to the quintessential 7-9 record that so typifies this team for so many years.
Arnie

Duluth, GA

#6 Apr 25, 2008
Good Luck wrote:
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When camp starts and there is a competition for the starting QB Grossman will win.....I am not saying he is the answer or fot that matter any good but he is a much better QB then Orton. Everybody at Halas already knows this. So Arnie might as well get use to it now.
I'll agree with you on one thing Grossman will probably be the starting QB. But a better QB than Orton I don't think so. He was a better QB for all of about 5 weeks to start the season in 2006. Since then the league knows how to get to him and its been all down hill since then. Grossman can only survive if he has 5 all pro-linemen. We don't have 5 all pro-linemen so the better choice is Orton. At least Orton nows how to by some time in the pocket without crapping himself.

All I can say is Grossman must be one hell of a practice player.
Sharp Shooter

Midlothian, IL

#7 Apr 25, 2008
Angelo really needs to hire a offensive draft specialist. He's never drafted a good offensive player, even Berrian is average. He should stick to linemen (his specialty) if he wants a successful draft.
Dave Urbaniak

Chicago, IL

#8 Apr 25, 2008
Excellent point about the NFC North concentrating on pass rushers. PLEASE draft an offensive tackle, defensive tackle to work along side Tommy Harris, and offensive guard, in that order. If you can move up by trading a late round pick, DO IT! Yes, we need a lot of people, but more importantly, we need the RIGHT people. Clady won't slip to 14, but if he does, it would be a sign from the gods that they want Chicago to get back on top. But Otah or Williams would also be able to anchor that line for years. Please, Mr. Angelo - don't try to out think yourself. This one is very straightforward. Of course, who's going to carry the ball is something else again!
Good luck

Leawood, KS

#9 Apr 25, 2008
Arnie wrote:
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I'll agree with you on one thing Grossman will probably be the starting QB. But a better QB than Orton I don't think so. He was a better QB for all of about 5 weeks to start the season in 2006. Since then the league knows how to get to him and its been all down hill since then. Grossman can only survive if he has 5 all pro-linemen. We don't have 5 all pro-linemen so the better choice is Orton. At least Orton nows how to by some time in the pocket without crapping himself.
All I can say is Grossman must be one hell of a practice player.
That is the thing he is one hell of a practice player. But the fact still is Grossman will be starting. I am not going to argue who is the better QB because that is like arguing which Bush was a better President!
Pepper

Chicago, IL

#10 Apr 25, 2008
Angelo sucks and the only reason he has a job is because he is a good boot licker.

The Bears will be the doormat of the Central Division. They are not a good organization to play for and I feel sorry for whatever play gets drafted by them.

They have no loyalty- losing Thomas Jones was a big mistake they are still paying for.

It will not get better for them and until they change their attitude, nothing good will come to them!

Go Saints!
PCK

Randolph, WI

#11 Apr 25, 2008
Draft four starters? Last year they redshirted two of their first four picks because they werent good enough to contribute. As NS Mike mentioned above, be afraid. VERY afraid.
Football dumb

Leawood, KS

#12 Apr 25, 2008
Pepper wrote:
Angelo sucks and the only reason he has a job is because he is a good boot licker.
The Bears will be the doormat of the Central Division. They are not a good organization to play for and I feel sorry for whatever play gets drafted by them.
They have no loyalty- losing Thomas Jones was a big mistake they are still paying for.
It will not get better for them and until they change their attitude, nothing good will come to them!
Go Saints!
I am so glad it says "Go Saints" at the bottom of your post because if you were a bear fan I would be embarrassed! I dont have time to get into how many statements in this post are wrong!! All I can say is you are Football dumb!
Pshhh

Chicago, IL

#13 Apr 25, 2008
O-Lineman. As much as I'd like Mendenhall, because he is going to be a stud for many years (mark my words), the o-line is too pressing of an issue to take a chance on somebody being there with a lower pick.

I'm guessing Otah is the pick.
Pshhh

Chicago, IL

#14 Apr 25, 2008
Pepper wrote:
Angelo sucks and the only reason he has a job is because he is a good boot licker.
He's done a pretty good job putting together an amazing defense, no? Did you read the above article?
Pepper wrote:
The Bears will be the doormat of the Central Division. They are not a good organization to play for and I feel sorry for whatever play gets drafted by them.
They're one of the most respected organizations in the league.
Pepper wrote:
They have no loyalty- losing Thomas Jones was a big mistake they are still paying for.
It will not get better for them and until they change their attitude, nothing good will come to them!
Go Saints!
Thomas Jones did not have a good year at all with the Jets. How could he have accounted for more wins? How are we paying for losing him?

Oh, and enjoy Reggie Bush underachieving for another year.
ogor54

Lombard, IL

#15 Apr 25, 2008
How about we trade Urlacher and Benson and move up in the draft and get McFaddon and the OT from Vandy. What does everyone think?
Slickster

Miami, FL

#16 Apr 25, 2008
Once I get past shaking my head, I still see the same picture: Angelo points to Greg Olsen and preens as to how good a drafter he is, while the rest of his picks look like the Keystone Kops.

The comment about drafting four starters is scary enough, but with Angelo and Smith's refusal to be wrong about Grossman, I do not look forward to the 2008 season with much optimism.
Patrick

United States

#17 Apr 25, 2008
ogor54 wrote:
How about we trade Urlacher and Benson and move up in the draft and get McFaddon and the OT from Vandy. What does everyone think?
If your post is serious and I hope for your sake it is not; Benson would not fetch a bus ticket to Milwaukee and Urlacher coming off of neck surgery, the worst season of his career and turning 30 may get you a high 2nd rd pick...maybe. So in summary, I think you're idea is similar to Sox fans that wonder why we haven't traded Uribe for Brian Roberts straight up.
Mike

United States

#18 Apr 25, 2008
Really sick and tired of hearing from those drinking the Mendenhall Kool Aid. These must be the same "experts" that were happy when we wasted a draft pick on the kid from Northwestern.

Winning teams are built from the line up and not the other way around. Which is what Angelo did when he first got here. His problem was that he stopped paying attention to the OL and they got old and slow at the same time.

Which is exactly what happened in the early 90's. The McCaskey's should've known better --if they could manage to peek away from their precious bottom line every once in awhile.
Chad

Schaumburg, IL

#19 Apr 25, 2008
ogor54 wrote:
How about we trade Urlacher and Benson and move up in the draft and get McFaddon and the OT from Vandy. What does everyone think?
Bears win games on Defense and ball control and defense Urlacher might be overrated but fact is he is still the most dominant Defender on our team and we don't have anyone that can even attempt to fill his role. Briggs is a system player and could never have the season Brian did with a bad back last year! 5 sacks and 5 picks not many players in the nfl get those numbers.

And to that idiot that said the bears are paying for trading Thomas Jones maybe pickup a stat sheet every once in a while you fool cause the jets lost more games than the bears and jones was right there with Benson as one of the worst RB's in the league last year.

Although judging Benson based on one season behind perhaps the worst O-line in Bears History is not fair.

I think three of our first four picks should be Offensive line. I am really dissapointed that angelo didn't bring in a young guard like Jacob Bell to help solidify the line cause being forced to start two rookies is crap! 30 million under the cap and they bring in Booker and Brandon Lloyd??? WTF!
Simon

United States

#20 Apr 25, 2008
I agree the Bears need an OT. However, as Haugh points out, there is nobody behind the line that will make an impact. Benson IS a bust. I do like Adrian Peterson but I don't think he's a starter - a good change of pace back, though.

This draft is full of offensive line talent which leads me to believe there will be a few quality veterans that will be available in the next month or two after the draft. I say the Bears take advantage of getting veteran ability on the line because they are used to the speed of the game whereas rookies very rarely get accustomed to the speed of the NFL in the first year.

Draft Mendenhall (because that guy hits the holes with SPEED) for the backfield so there is a bona fide threat back there. This will give better chances to a mediocre, at best, receiving core.

Look to the later rounds to draft on O-lineman or two. Angelo has had some success in later rounds with finding talent.

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