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Poole: Heisman vote is close, but Stanford's Toby Gerhart should win

There are 47 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Dec 10, 2009, titled Poole: Heisman vote is close, but Stanford's Toby Gerhart should win. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

In a Heisman field rich with talented offensive players, Stanford running back Toby Gerhart is the one who most consistently impressed.

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“SEC = Bandwagon”

Since: Dec 06

Cleveland, Ms,

#1 Dec 12, 2009
agreed
Martina2

Santa Rosa, CA

#2 Dec 12, 2009
Suh or Gerhart are most deserving - Ingram is a clear second best running back to Gerhart.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#3 Dec 12, 2009
Martina2 wrote:
Suh or Gerhart are most deserving - Ingram is a clear second best running back to Gerhart.
LMAO ROLL TIDE ROLL MARK TAKES IT HOME !!!!!!!
travis

Lehigh Acres, FL

#4 Dec 13, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO ROLL TIDE ROLL MARK TAKES IT HOME !!!!!!!
Was at a party last night when Ingram was announced the winner. The hostess was a Bama alumnus. She immediately instructed the band to play Sweet Home Alabama.

The win against Florida last week pretty much sealed the deal. The BCS matchup with Texas will be a good one.

On a side note I wonder what Ole Miss back Dexter McClusker (sp) would have done on a team like Alabama or Florida. I think he's the most exciting runner in the SEC.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#5 Dec 13, 2009
travis wrote:
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Was at a party last night when Ingram was announced the winner. The hostess was a Bama alumnus. She immediately instructed the band to play Sweet Home Alabama.
The win against Florida last week pretty much sealed the deal. The BCS matchup with Texas will be a good one.
On a side note I wonder what Ole Miss back Dexter McClusker (sp) would have done on a team like Alabama or Florida. I think he's the most exciting runner in the SEC.
you make a good point on McClusker
Martina2

Santa Rosa, CA

#6 Dec 13, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO ROLL TIDE ROLL MARK TAKES IT HOME !!!!!!!
Ingram is a nice college player, but great? Not really. Ingram goes 12 carries for 30 yards against Auburn? This is a typical example of uniformed eastern voters getting taken in by SEC hype. How many more times are people going to fall for this crap - Charlie Ward? Gino Toretta? Danny Wuerffel? Chris Weinke? Gerhart exceeded Ingram in all but 2 or 3 categorical measures, plus Alabama probably wins the same number of games without Ingram as they do with him.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#7 Dec 13, 2009
Martina2 wrote:
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Ingram is a nice college player, but great? Not really. Ingram goes 12 carries for 30 yards against Auburn? This is a typical example of uniformed eastern voters getting taken in by SEC hype. How many more times are people going to fall for this crap - Charlie Ward? Gino Toretta? Danny Wuerffel? Chris Weinke? Gerhart exceeded Ingram in all but 2 or 3 categorical measures, plus Alabama probably wins the same number of games without Ingram as they do with him.
so you say its that the voters are dumb that he won !! now thats dumb !!! in won in 4 of 6 reigons
Martina2

Santa Rosa, CA

#8 Dec 13, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>so you say its that the voters are dumb that he won !! now thats dumb !!! in won in 4 of 6 reigons
Yes, voters are often dumb. Except for the fact that Ingram is in the SEC and played for Alabama, what else leads you to believe that he deserved the Heisman more than Gerhart or Suh?

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#9 Dec 13, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>so you say its that the voters are dumb that he won !! now thats dumb !!! in won in 4 of 6 reigons
Obama and Rev. Jesse Jackson campaigned for Ingram. That's why Mark Ingram won! LOL :\

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#10 Dec 13, 2009
Gerhart truly should be the Heisman Trophy winner. We just had a white guy win it last year, Sam Bradford. So, they had to give it to a black guy this go around..........Toby Gerhart was truly the winner, for sure!:\

“SEC = Bandwagon”

Since: Dec 06

Cleveland, Ms,

#11 Dec 13, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>so you say its that the voters are dumb that he won !! now thats dumb !!! in won in 4 of 6 reigons
I would try using Ebonics from now on, it might be more understandable.

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#12 Dec 13, 2009
BigDan wrote:
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I would try using Ebonics from now on, it might be more understandable.
LOL.....Now, that's funny! LOL

That may be what they speak at Cincinatti though. Seaux, be ready for that kind of talent to invade South Bend, those speaking Ebonics.

"I is gonna be good", says new Notre Dame recruit. LOL

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#13 Dec 14, 2009
Martina2 wrote:
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Yes, voters are often dumb. Except for the fact that Ingram is in the SEC and played for Alabama, what else leads you to believe that he deserved the Heisman more than Gerhart or Suh?
all the votes he got !!!! duh

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#15 Dec 14, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>all the votes he got !!!! duh
He got the votes because he played for Alabama (the #1 team), not because he deserved the Heisman. Gerhart deserved the Heisman! There is no doubt about it, BOO!

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#16 Dec 14, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>all the votes he got !!!! duh
You didn't say what you really meant.......... Ingram.........got all the votes he got..........because he played for Alabama..........You left out 'Ingram' at the beginning and 'because he played for Alabama' at the end.........DUH

“YO BOO”

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land of BOO

#17 Dec 14, 2009
DeathValley56 Ghost wrote:
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You didn't say what you really meant.......... Ingram.........got all the votes he got..........because he played for Alabama..........You left out 'Ingram' at the beginning and 'because he played for Alabama' at the end.........DUH
the voters say Ingram

“SEC = Bandwagon”

Since: Dec 06

Cleveland, Ms,

#18 Dec 14, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>the voters say Ingram
I am not upset that he won, the voters where just wrong and bought into the ESPN hype. I think Ingram should have been in the discussion, unlike Tebow, he shouldn't have even been invited but since ESPN runs the thing now, and he was their hero, they had to let him come or they would have looked like idiots. Since ESPN has a contract with the SEC now, they will always hype the SEC and it's players, kinda like the under armor bowl. Every recruiting service has a player ranked in the top 25 but if he isn't going to the under armor bowl but going to the Army All American game, they won't even have him ranked in the top 75. They are going to do what it takes to get their ratings up. If that means over hype a team, league or player, they will. They are basically like MSNBC,CBS or CNN when they only done favorable stories of Obama or DEMS. The problem with those guys is that it ended up hurting them because their rating went to crap. ESPN is smarter, they will jump on a bandwagon if they can't make one.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#19 Dec 14, 2009
BigDan wrote:
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I am not upset that he won, the voters where just wrong and bought into the ESPN hype. I think Ingram should have been in the discussion, unlike Tebow, he shouldn't have even been invited but since ESPN runs the thing now, and he was their hero, they had to let him come or they would have looked like idiots. Since ESPN has a contract with the SEC now, they will always hype the SEC and it's players, kinda like the under armor bowl. Every recruiting service has a player ranked in the top 25 but if he isn't going to the under armor bowl but going to the Army All American game, they won't even have him ranked in the top 75. They are going to do what it takes to get their ratings up. If that means over hype a team, league or player, they will. They are basically like MSNBC,CBS or CNN when they only done favorable stories of Obama or DEMS. The problem with those guys is that it ended up hurting them because their rating went to crap. ESPN is smarter, they will jump on a bandwagon if they can't make one.
he won 4 of the six regions the other two were won by the votes by the Stanford guy & the texas guy it was close but mark won ESPN had nothing to do with it IMO !!!!! last year some of the people in the southwest didn't have Tebow in the top three thats how Sam pulled it out last year Im happy with Ingram ROLL TIDE our first but not last

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#20 Dec 14, 2009
BigDan wrote:
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I am not upset that he won, the voters where just wrong and bought into the ESPN hype. I think Ingram should have been in the discussion, unlike Tebow, he shouldn't have even been invited but since ESPN runs the thing now, and he was their hero, they had to let him come or they would have looked like idiots. Since ESPN has a contract with the SEC now, they will always hype the SEC and it's players, kinda like the under armor bowl. Every recruiting service has a player ranked in the top 25 but if he isn't going to the under armor bowl but going to the Army All American game, they won't even have him ranked in the top 75. They are going to do what it takes to get their ratings up. If that means over hype a team, league or player, they will. They are basically like MSNBC,CBS or CNN when they only done favorable stories of Obama or DEMS. The problem with those guys is that it ended up hurting them because their rating went to crap. ESPN is smarter, they will jump on a bandwagon if they can't make one.
I agree......The voters were wrong!:)

DeathValley56 Ghost

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#21 Dec 14, 2009
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>he won 4 of the six regions the other two were won by the votes by the Stanford guy & the texas guy it was close but mark won ESPN had nothing to do with it IMO !!!!! last year some of the people in the southwest didn't have Tebow in the top three thats how Sam pulled it out last year Im happy with Ingram ROLL TIDE our first but not last
I live in Colt McCoy's region; and, I voted for Gerhart on Sportsnation..........The voters were wrong. It's an injustice to the Heisman Trophy.....which once proved who is truly the best all-around student/athlete in the ocuntry....of course, with the exception of OJ Simpson, who deservedly had his yanked away from him for murdering his wife......Shame on OJ; and, shame on the voters for really screwing up this year's true Heisman vote. It should've been Gerhart with Sue and and Ingram a close 2nd and 3rd..........

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