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Oct 8, 2012; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; Houston Texans fans celebrate after the Texans win over the New York Jets at MetLIfe Stadium.

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YouCrazy Channel

Miami, FL

#21 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps he will correct his footwork issues much like Eli Manning has for the Giants, thereby greatly improving Eli's passing numbers.
Elway didn't think so. That's why he accepted a 4th Rd pick for Tebow, and didn't even care to have him stick around as a backup to an aging veteran coming off a serious injury. I tend to think Elway knows more about being a NFL QB than you, me , and most anyone else in the world. I'll go with his decision on this Tebow matter.
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#22 Nov 2, 2012
Tebow has the quickest pick-6 delivery of any QB in the league. That alone will carry him to Canton

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#23 Nov 2, 2012
YouCrazy Channel wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I've already said, you prove time and again what a thin skinned doofus you are. You're proving my point right now.
I don't give a scheiss what you think about me. I have already decided that you are nothing more than a little punk trying to impersonate a real man and that I would be a fool to take you seriously. Just showing what a loser you are is no effort at all.
YouCrazy Channel

Miami, FL

#24 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I don't give a scheiss what you think about me. I have already decided that you are nothing more than a little punk trying to impersonate a real man and that I would be a fool to take you seriously. Just showing what a loser you are is no effort at all.
Yeah you don't care, which is why you took down your YouTube channel. And that's why you are so sensitive about anything and everything. Any other BS you got to sell?

"I would be a fool to take you seriously"---you are a fool for taking anything on the net seriously.
Narcissism Amok

Miami, FL

#25 Nov 2, 2012
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
Tebow has the quickest pick-6 delivery of any QB in the league. That alone will carry him to Canton
Not to certain Tebow-loving NFL "fans". They know more than NFL coaches and GMs and players. The vantage point they get from sitting on their sofa scratching their crotches and drinking Blue Ribbon is just unbeatable. Elway doesn't know what he's done, but they do.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#26 Nov 2, 2012
YouCrazy Channel wrote:
<quoted text>
Elway didn't think so. That's why he accepted a 4th Rd pick for Tebow, and didn't even care to have him stick around as a backup to an aging veteran coming off a serious injury. I tend to think Elway knows more about being a NFL QB than you, me , and most anyone else in the world. I'll go with his decision on this Tebow matter.
Are you aware of what the Pittsburgh Steelers thought of Johnny Unitas back in the mid fifties? They released him and Unitas went on to be a Hall of Fame QB. In that same decade, the Giants released future Hall of Fame WR Don Maynard and star Steelers WR Buddy Dial (one of three NFL receivers with at least 200 catches who averaged over twenty yards per reception for his career). Hall of Fame QB Len Dawson was released early in his career by the Cleveland Browns in the early sixties. I am not saying that Tebow will go on to be a Hall of Famer, but this shows that personnel decisions can be very wrong at times. Many a player has been cast off by one team only to become a mainstay with another. Elway's record as a Bronco's administrator has also been far from stellar based on how the Broncos are now doing. Elway has even admitted that he didn't have the experience to make personnel decisions which is why he is not a head coach or GM. Let us also remeber that Terbow was 7-4 as a starter compared to Manning's 4-3, not to mention that Manning takes up more salary cap space than Tebow did. Denver did S.F. a great favor in out bidding them for Manning's services as Alex Smith is having a very fine season for the 49ers with a much lighter salary cap hit than Manning would have cost them.
Tim Tedone

Miami, FL

#27 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Are you aware of what the Pittsburgh Steelers thought of Johnny Unitas back in the mid fifties? They released him and Unitas went on to be a Hall of Fame QB. In that same decade, the Giants released future Hall of Fame WR Don Maynard and star Steelers WR Buddy Dial (one of three NFL receivers with at least 200 catches who averaged over twenty yards per reception for his career). Hall of Fame QB Len Dawson was released early in his career by the Cleveland Browns in the early sixties. I am not saying that Tebow will go on to be a Hall of Famer, but this shows that personnel decisions can be very wrong at times. Many a player has been cast off by one team only to become a mainstay with another. Elway's record as a Bronco's administrator has also been far from stellar based on how the Broncos are now doing. Elway has even admitted that he didn't have the experience to make personnel decisions which is why he is not a head coach or GM. Let us also remeber that Terbow was 7-4 as a starter compared to Manning's 4-3, not to mention that Manning takes up more salary cap space than Tebow did. Denver did S.F. a great favor in out bidding them for Manning's services as Alex Smith is having a very fine season for the 49ers with a much lighter salary cap hit than Manning would have cost them.
How many QB that were released ended up never starting again, and how many went on to become franchise QBs? The odds aren't in Tebow's favor, not by a long shot.
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#28 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Are you aware of what the Pittsburgh Steelers thought of Johnny Unitas back in the mid fifties? They released him and Unitas went on to be a Hall of Fame QB. In that same decade, the Giants released future Hall of Fame WR Don Maynard and star Steelers WR Buddy Dial (one of three NFL receivers with at least 200 catches who averaged over twenty yards per reception for his career). Hall of Fame QB Len Dawson was released early in his career by the Cleveland Browns in the early sixties. I am not saying that Tebow will go on to be a Hall of Famer, but this shows that personnel decisions can be very wrong at times. Many a player has been cast off by one team only to become a mainstay with another. Elway's record as a Bronco's administrator has also been far from stellar based on how the Broncos are now doing. Elway has even admitted that he didn't have the experience to make personnel decisions which is why he is not a head coach or GM. Let us also remeber that Terbow was 7-4 as a starter compared to Manning's 4-3, not to mention that Manning takes up more salary cap space than Tebow did. Denver did S.F. a great favor in out bidding them for Manning's services as Alex Smith is having a very fine season for the 49ers with a much lighter salary cap hit than Manning would have cost them.
WOW! Johnny U and Tebow in the same breath? Put down the halloween candy. I even think the most ardent tebow admirer (the one with his poster of tebow running shirtless in the rain on the ceiling in his bedroom) would have to admit the Bronco's would have been more likely to beat Buffalo late last year with Manning at the controls instead of losing 40-14 when all they needed to do was win and clinch a share of the division. And how could The Greatest Overrated QB ever lose to the lowly chiefs, on their home field 7-3 when a win clinches the weakest division in football(not even scoring a touchdown since he is the greatest QB ever). Getting pasted by the Patriots twice in the final month of the season was all Elway needed to see to realize Tebow, in spite of being the self-proclaimed "hardest worker" was nothing more than the facade of a loser. He is more cut out for preaching on Sunday and should probably do that instead of wasting everybody's time with this football fantasy

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#29 Nov 2, 2012
Tim Tedone wrote:
<quoted text>
How many QB that were released ended up never starting again, and how many went on to become franchise QBs? The odds aren't in Tebow's favor, not by a long shot.
I haven't yet decared him a success story...or a failure just yet. All I will say is give him time to either prove or disprove himself.
YouCrazy Channel

Miami, FL

#30 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text> Elway's record as a Bronco's administrator has also been far from stellar based on how the Broncos are now doing. Elway has even admitted that he didn't have the experience to make personnel decisions which is why he is not a head coach or GM. Let us also remeber that Terbow was 7-4 as a starter compared to Manning's 4-3, not to mention that Manning takes up more salary cap space than Tebow did. Denver did S.F. a great favor in out bidding them for Manning's services as Alex Smith is having a very fine season for the 49ers with a much lighter salary cap hit than Manning would have cost them.
Huh??? The Broncos are in 1st place in their division, meanwhile Teblow and his Jests are in the AFC East gutter.

Meanwhile, Peyton was just named AFC Offensive Player of the Month.

Yeah Elway is clueless. And you're a talent scouting pro.
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#31 Nov 2, 2012
YouCrazy Channel wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh??? The Broncos are in 1st place in their division, meanwhile Teblow and his Jests are in the AFC East gutter.
Meanwhile, Peyton was just named AFC Offensive Player of the Month.
Yeah Elway is clueless. And you're a talent scouting pro.
Of course he is. He has the paper to prove it too: The poster of Teblow running shirtless in the rain is proudly tacked to the ceiling of his bedroom in Mom's basement
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#32 Nov 2, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Do you have a link for this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Take your pick
Tim Teception

Miami, FL

#33 Nov 2, 2012
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
<quoted text>http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=vfzBh99U5LEXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Take your pick
LMFAO, That's the Wing and a Prayer play Sparano dialed up. It has Mr.Happyfeet roll out of the pocket and chucking the ball with his eyes closed, hoping to Jesus that someone not in the other teams uniform catches it.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#34 Nov 3, 2012
YouCrazy Channel wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh??? The Broncos are in 1st place in their division, meanwhile Teblow and his Jests are in the AFC East gutter.
Meanwhile, Peyton was just named AFC Offensive Player of the Month.
Yeah Elway is clueless. And you're a talent scouting pro.
Not all Hall of Famers have been a success as a coach, GM or administrator in the NFL (some have been utter screwups); and not all successful coaches, GMs and administrators have been star players in the NFL. You have chosen to conveniently ignore that fact. Hall of Fame credentials as a player NEVER guarantee success in the NFL at a management level. There is only two Hall of Fame players since 1960 who was an outstanding coach, George Halas. There is a whole laundry list of Hall of Famers who were less than successful coaches since 1960, including four QBs, Bart Starr, Sammy Baugh, Bob Waterfield, Otto Graham and Norm Van Brocklin. It appears that HOF QBs are often overrated as coaching, GM, and other administrative position candidates. Other notable busts include Mike Singletary and Forrest Gregg. only four of 16 HOF players had winning records as a head coach. While HOFer Dick Lebeau was a very fine defensive coordinator, on the other hand, Andy Robustelli was director of operations for the NY Giants during one of the lowest points in team history.

Let me point out that the Broncos first place position is in a weak division with a combined 12-18 mark in which Manning has gone only 4-3. Tebow went 7-4 the year before in a division with a combined 31-33 record which is definitely superior to 12-18. If the Broncos are so much better with Manning, why does he have a lower winning pct. in a weaker performing division than Tebow had in 2011(4-3 vs. Tebow's 7-4 in 2011)? What about Manning's salary cap clogging salary that prevents the Broncos from addressing other needs at other positions? As I said before, the Broncos did the 49ers a favor by outbidding them for his services as a "noodle armed" QB has been very successful for S.F. this year, more so than Manning with Denver. Just for the record, the consensus is that Peyton Manning is no longer even nearly the long bomb threat that he used to be. He has become a noodle arm in his own right.

Tebow is not the reason for the Jets failures by a long shot. The Jets need a new coach and need to sack Sanchez as the starter.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#35 Nov 3, 2012
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
<quoted text>http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=vfzBh99U5LEXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Take your pick
One link is not working and the other is simply a cherry picked video of an interception that shows the interception and nothing more of something that happens to ALL NFL QBs from time to time.

“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#36 Nov 3, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Not all Hall of Famers have been a success as a coach, GM or administrator in the NFL (some have been utter screwups); and not all successful coaches, GMs and administrators have been star players in the NFL. You have chosen to conveniently ignore that fact. Hall of Fame credentials as a player NEVER guarantee success in the NFL at a management level. There is only two Hall of Fame players since 1960 who was an outstanding coach, George Halas. There is a whole laundry list of Hall of Famers who were less than successful coaches since 1960, including four QBs, Bart Starr, Sammy Baugh, Bob Waterfield, Otto Graham and Norm Van Brocklin. It appears that HOF QBs are often overrated as coaching, GM, and other administrative position candidates. Other notable busts include Mike Singletary and Forrest Gregg. only four of 16 HOF players had winning records as a head coach. While HOFer Dick Lebeau was a very fine defensive coordinator, on the other hand, Andy Robustelli was director of operations for the NY Giants during one of the lowest points in team history.
Let me point out that the Broncos first place position is in a weak division with a combined 12-18 mark in which Manning has gone only 4-3. Tebow went 7-4 the year before in a division with a combined 31-33 record which is definitely superior to 12-18. If the Broncos are so much better with Manning, why does he have a lower winning pct. in a weaker performing division than Tebow had in 2011(4-3 vs. Tebow's 7-4 in 2011)? What about Manning's salary cap clogging salary that prevents the Broncos from addressing other needs at other positions? As I said before, the Broncos did the 49ers a favor by outbidding them for his services as a "noodle armed" QB has been very successful for S.F. this year, more so than Manning with Denver. Just for the record, the consensus is that Peyton Manning is no longer even nearly the long bomb threat that he used to be. He has become a noodle arm in his own right.
Tebow is not the reason for the Jets failures by a long shot. The Jets need a new coach and need to sack Sanchez as the starter.
My statement about George Halas was wrong as he was not a Hall Of Fame player before he became a coach and was not elected to the HOF on the basis of his playing career anyway. I meant to edit that part out as I did more research in between starting that post and finishing it and it was meant to have been edited from my previous post. I had also originally included Steve Owen along with Halas, but he too made the HOF as a coach and not a player.

Her is a link to back up the overall lack of success by HOFers as head coaches.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8238708...

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#37 Nov 3, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't yet decared him a success story...or a failure just yet. All I will say is give him time to either prove or disprove himself.
You say that there...Then you say this:
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The Jets need a new coach and need to sack Sanchez as the starter.
This is what disqualifies you when talking about TT. You say fire Rexy and can Sanchez to play TT?! Trash the entire system from coach to QB and redo it all for TT but you're not ready to declare him a success or failure? Smart money tells me and obviously the majority of other true football aficionados that if you're going to do all that for 1 man the juice better damn well be worth the squeeze and even you as a Tebowmaniac can't get your butt off the fence and declare one way or another! TYPICAL!

Make a decision and pick a side or stop discussing TT. No fence straddlers here Catman.

“Timshel”

Since: Jan 12

Tulsa, OK

#38 Nov 3, 2012
And I will say this is Woody Johnson's fault along with Rex Ryan's. If TT wasn't brought in can we all agree that the pressure would be less on Sanchez because as we all know where TT goes the circus goes.

So if there's no TT, Sanchez might actually be playing better. One can also argue in NY that TT has actually become a plague in the locker room because we all saw several Jets players before TT came there saying publicly they didn't want TT. We also just saw a few players that came out publicly and said the TT chants in their last game were "BS".

This coupled with the fact that several Denver players came out and said they were happy that TT was gone and that they could now get down to just playing football since the circus has left town.

If this were anybody else especially a non-christian you Tebowmaniacs would be screaming to get that poser out of there and saying he had no business in the NFL. Facts are facts, he divides the locker room and fans of football. Save the polarizing for a sermon.
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#39 Nov 5, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>One link is not working and the other is simply a cherry picked video of an interception that shows the interception and nothing more of something that happens to ALL NFL QBs from time to time.
Just gop to google and type in Tebow+Interception.
Yopu will get pages and pages of you-tube clips to pick from
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#40 Nov 5, 2012
_Jusayin_ wrote:
And I will say this is Woody Johnson's fault along with Rex Ryan's. If TT wasn't brought in can we all agree that the pressure would be less on Sanchez because as we all know where TT goes the circus goes.
So if there's no TT, Sanchez might actually be playing better. One can also argue in NY that TT has actually become a plague in the locker room because we all saw several Jets players before TT came there saying publicly they didn't want TT. We also just saw a few players that came out publicly and said the TT chants in their last game were "BS".
This coupled with the fact that several Denver players came out and said they were happy that TT was gone and that they could now get down to just playing football since the circus has left town.
If this were anybody else especially a non-christian you Tebowmaniacs would be screaming to get that poser out of there and saying he had no business in the NFL. Facts are facts, he divides the locker room and fans of football. Save the polarizing for a sermon.
Couldn't have said it any better than that. Unfortunately he is a cancer

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