Thanks to Peyton Manning, John Elway drives away the Tim Tebow circus: Bud Shaw

There are 88 comments on the Cleveland.com story from Mar 19, 2012, titled Thanks to Peyton Manning, John Elway drives away the Tim Tebow circus: Bud Shaw. In it, Cleveland.com reports that:

John Elway now has the front-office equivalent of The Drive on his resume. Against all odds, he got out from under Tebowmania.

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“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#82 Mar 25, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
I thought Denver could have held out for more, in the Tebow trade.....what they did, in essence was trade a first round player for a midround draft pick.....that's the kind of move, most fans howl about.....i just think it was a sh*t deal, from the bronco perspective....
It will always be debated whether or not Tebow should have been a first round draft pick. Back in the 1979 draft, the same thing was said about Phil Simms who would have in all likelyhood lasted until the third round where the 49ers planned to choose him instead of Joe Montana. Some Giant fans lamented that we could have had Joe Montana. I am not going to go that far. What if it were reversed and Simms got to throw to Dwight Clark and Jerry Rice and Montana had to endure throwing to mediocre receivers and play behind a shaky offensive line with no great running backs that the opposing defense had to account for as Simms had to endure earlier in his career? It wasn't
until he was 30 that he finally had a good offensive line to work behind, decent pass receivers, and a strong running game that gave the opposing defenses something else to worry about.

Simms was still playing very well at age 39 when he was released to make room for a genuine first round flop, Dave Brown. Right now, Simms holds nearly all the career highs for a Giant QB. He certainly turned out better than a majority of 1st round choices at QB over the years.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#83 Mar 25, 2012
I am surprised Eli hasen't taken over most of the Giant's passing records already.....if he hasen't, he probably will....don't forget the Giant's great defense for much of that time.....
Joe Krupinski

Great Neck, NY

#84 Mar 25, 2012
Tim Tebow is the real deal so Phi Simms has nothing to be ashamed of.

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#85 Mar 25, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
I am surprised Eli hasen't taken over most of the Giant's passing records already.....if he hasen't, he probably will....don't forget the Giant's great defense for much of that time.....
If he can stay healthy and effective for two more seasons, Eli will likely break all of Simm's team records. He is likely to pass him up for total completions in a career and TD passes for a Giant this season and in passing yardage the following season.
The amazing thing about Simm's record is that he never firmly established himself as the number one QB until he was 30 and there were also the season where coach Ray Handley unwisely started Jeff Hostetler over Simms during Handley's brief and unsuccessful two year tenure as head coach. Bill Parcells made one of his rare blunders by naming Scott Brunner (who would be out of pro football when Simms won the Super Bowl for the Giants following the 1986 season) the starter instead of Simms as the starter in 1983. He also was lost for the entire 1982 season with a knee injury. Injuries and unwise coaching decisons took away almost four years worth of opportunities to add to his totals.
Simms, like Charlie Conerly, whose records he broke with the Giants, got a late start to his NFL career turning 25 during his rookie season. Due to service in World War II, Conerly was a 27 year old rookie in 1948. Simms played until age 39 and Conerly until age 40. Manning is now 31 and if he stays healthy and plays until anywhere close to the retirement ages of Simms and Conerly, he will greatly exceed both of them in career totals.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#86 Mar 25, 2012
Geez, i can even remember Fran Tarkington...as a Giant and a Viking....

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#87 Mar 25, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Geez, i can even remember Fran Tarkington...as a Giant and a Viking....
I remember Tarkenton as a rookie for the Vikings replacing veteran George Shaw in the Vikings' first season. George Shaw, like he did in Baltimore, got hurt running the ball too much and lost his starting job in much the same way he lost it to Johnny Unitas in Baltimore. Both Unitas and Tarkenton became Hall of Famers.
jaxgatorshark

Atlanta, GA

#88 Mar 25, 2012
TEBOW SUCKS wrote:
He already made the biggest blunder when he let someone with no business in the pros to start at quarterback. Now he's atoning for his sin against the football gods and all REAL football fans who jumped on the Teblow bandwagon and miraculously all became insightful football analysts. Prior to the freak hit that took Peyton out, he was one of the NFL's toughest and most durable ironmen. Now all of a sudden, any hit will take him out and Broncos fans and Teblow nut swingers the world over will be crying out to Elway: "Why hast thou forsaken us by taking away precious St. Timothy!!!?!?" Get a clue. Oh yeah...Tebow still sucks!
U have serious anger issues, go take ur Xanax and stop reading sports and if we're nut swingers, u r a mouth breathing, knuckle dragger. Peyton will do well no matter what anyone says, so chill out.
TEBOW SUCKS

Hartford, CT

#89 Mar 26, 2012
jaxgatorshark wrote:
<quoted text> U have serious anger issues, go take ur Xanax and stop reading sports and if we're nut swingers, u r a mouth breathing, knuckle dragger. Peyton will do well no matter what anyone says, so chill out.
No anger issues here, except for you religious wack job Teblowjobbers. The never cared about football ever before(except when Vick was killing pooches), so they need to stay out of it now and quit pretending they know something other than praying to invisible people.

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