Raider Nation: Why do Some Fans Want Carson Palmer to Start?

Feb 1, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Rant Sports

In a previous article, a majority of Oakland Raider fans believe that Carson Palmer should be the starting quarterback for the 2013 season.

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OneNation

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#1
Feb 1, 2013
 
Give Pryor a chance look at all the rookie qb's that made it to the playoffs and Super Bowl this year we gotta win and we are dying trying to Palmer can't move outside the pocket like Pryor can take a look at the last game of the year

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#2
Feb 1, 2013
 
I honestly will say give TP a chance to compete,and let the better qb win. I would love if he can beat out Palmer,but realistic being,i doubt it. Who knows,maybe we got a very fast learning qb on our hands.

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#3
Feb 1, 2013
 
RAIDERS should start c palmer cause he deserves it! AND? is well trusted. the (qb) competition at training camp and pre-season should always be "A, competition"! if terrelle pryor is da-man, and straight out-plays palmer?, than so be it! seattle was the perfect example with wilson beating m flynn.
i wouldn't be upset.
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#4
Feb 1, 2013
 
Palmer should start hands down. He had 4000yds with a crappy offensive scheme and no running game. Palmer earned the starting position and did nothing to lose it. This foolishness of stating pryor deserves a chance? The only reason Pryor should start is if it's a financial decision to trade him. That or injury, other than that Palmer is a top ten qb in the league this year on yds. What more do you think you will get out of pryor. Best case is pryor learning a year or two more behind Palmer.
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#5
Feb 1, 2013
 
I'm a TP supporter, but this was a stupid article. Aree team was ass period & to give reasons Palmer didn't do better then negate them because Pryor its on the team is flat out stupid!
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Feb 2, 2013
 
Palmer is not a top ten QB hell no u guys r smoking good shit.when he was with the bangles yes he was top ten before he's,injury in the playoffs against the Steelers...Palmer is an average Qb I dont care what u guys say but he's not gonna get us to the playoffs or a superbowl so why the Fuck waist time with his old ass..4,018 don't mean shit but our 4-12 does mean something Ur record shows who u are ,n that's why we are the third team in the NFL draft ..Phillip river from san Diego had multiple seasons with 5,000 plus yards n look at him he still has no ring so stats don't mean shit winning games do..so if u don't understand the game of football n Ur just a raider fan because Ur dad or family is a raiders fan or whatever the reason is u shouldn't even be postinng comments cuz u guys sound stupid always backing up the WHITE QB'S n never show sopport to the BLACK ones ..Palmer is done he doesn't have it anymore compare his tapes wen he was a bangle to last season u will c that he can't throw the ball as he use to..look at Brady n manning they still have it there a definition of a a top ten elite Qb Palmer is not at there level n there older then he is n both had injuries n there still in the playoffs every Damn season except manning wen he was out in the 2011 season ..so no he is not a top ten Qb but what ever happens with qb situation in the 13 season I want a winner not a looser that throws for 4,000 yards cuz stats don't get u anywhere wins do so get Ur head out of Ur asses n wake up Pryor should at least get a chance to start...
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#7
Feb 2, 2013
 
get recivers that can catch a ball this season tired of seeing wrs drop good balls. qbs need that
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#8
Feb 2, 2013
 
Palmer kiled us in that Falcons game! The difference was 7 pts. Cause threw that costly pick ! We had the Falcons by the short hairs. That game have been a morale builder 4 US!
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Feb 2, 2013
 
Im not saying Palmer shouldnt start. He need 2 stop killing the Team with those costly intercetions. We had the Falcons n Bucs when he killed US! I fervantly hope we get the last laugh on the bungles!
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Feb 2, 2013
 
manzo_831 wrote:
Palmer is not a top ten QB hell no u guys r smoking good shit.when he was with the bangles yes he was top ten before he's,injury in the playoffs against the Steelers...Palmer is an average Qb I dont care what u guys say but he's not gonna get us to the playoffs or a superbowl so why the Fuck waist time with his old ass..4,018 don't mean shit but our 4-12 does mean something Ur record shows who u are ,n that's why we are the third team in the NFL draft ..Phillip river from san Diego had multiple seasons with 5,000 plus yards n look at him he still has no ring so stats don't mean shit winning games do..so if u don't understand the game of football n Ur just a raider fan because Ur dad or family is a raiders fan or whatever the reason is u shouldn't even be postinng comments cuz u guys sound stupid always backing up the WHITE QB'S n never show sopport to the BLACK ones ..Palmer is done he doesn't have it anymore compare his tapes wen he was a bangle to last season u will c that he can't throw the ball as he use to..look at Brady n manning they still have it there a definition of a a top ten elite Qb Palmer is not at there level n there older then he is n both had injuries n there still in the playoffs every Damn season except manning wen he was out in the 2011 season ..so no he is not a top ten Qb but what ever happens with qb situation in the 13 season I want a winner not a looser that throws for 4,000 yards cuz stats don't get u anywhere wins do so get Ur head out of Ur asses n wake up Pryor should at least get a chance to start...
Wut u think this is basketball bra? Football is thee ultimate team sport 1st of all so in no way does Palmer get the bulk of thee blame. 2ndly, Brady & Manning both of them have been in the same system for how long? Had Palmer been in the same system for as long as them, he'd probably have a ring or 2. Even now P. Manning is running the same offense as he did wit the colts. Yet u talking like ur a football guru. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that homie. It also dont take a elementary school student to see that under lastyears circumstances Carson did as well as anyone could expect. Greg Knapp need I say more? Also if u knew football like u accuse others of not knowing, u would've known that when running the no huddle QBs put in plays that they feel comfortable wit & thats when Palmer excelled. He didnt have a run game for the better half of the season. The whole scheme was bullshit & people wit the football IQ of a fire ant seems to only find blame on the 1 bright spot from lastyear when nuttin went right. He made B. Myers look like T. Gonzalez. Wut, are next gonna say D. Mac is washed up because he didnt perform to ur liken? I would sit here & school u on the ins & out & nuances of football, but it ain't worth it giving the fact u know it all
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#11
Feb 2, 2013
 
First, do you understand football? not being a wiseass, but I hope you know it takes,a lot more than a qb to win. We have so many needs on o and d. It's amazing he did as well as he did. You said he should have gotten us to the playoffs, we had no running game and defense struggled. Again it takes more than a qb.
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Palmer is not a top ten QB hell no u guys r smoking good shit.when he was with the bangles yes he was top ten before he's,injury in the playoffs against the Steelers...Palmer is an average Qb I dont care what u guys say but he's not gonna get us to the playoffs or a superbowl so why the Fuck waist time with his old ass..4,018 don't mean shit but our 4-12 does mean something Ur record shows who u are ,n that's why we are the third team in the NFL draft ..Phillip river from san Diego had multiple seasons with 5,000 plus yards n look at him he still has no ring so stats don't mean shit winning games do..so if u don't understand the game of football n Ur just a raider fan because Ur dad or family is a raiders fan or whatever the reason is u shouldn't even be postinng comments cuz u guys sound stupid always backing up the WHITE QB'S n never show sopport to the BLACK ones ..Palmer is done he doesn't have it anymore compare his tapes wen he was a bangle to last season u will c that he can't throw the ball as he use to..look at Brady n manning they still have it there a definition of a a top ten elite Qb Palmer is not at there level n there older then he is n both had injuries n there still in the playoffs every Damn season except manning wen he was out in the 2011 season ..so no he is not a top ten Qb but what ever happens with qb situation in the 13 season I want a winner not a looser that throws for 4,000 yards cuz stats don't get u anywhere wins do so get Ur head out of Ur asses n wake up Pryor should at least get a chance to start...
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Feb 2, 2013
 
Nj raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text> Wut u think this is basketball bra? Football is thee ultimate team sport 1st of all so in no way does Palmer get the bulk of thee blame. 2ndly, Brady & Manning both of them have been in the same system for how long? Had Palmer been in the same system for as long as them, he'd probably have a ring or 2. Even now P. Manning is running the same offense as he did wit the colts. Yet u talking like ur a football guru. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that homie. It also dont take a elementary school student to see that under lastyears circumstances Carson did as well as anyone could expect. Greg Knapp need I say more? Also if u knew football like u accuse others of not knowing, u would've known that when running the no huddle QBs put in plays that they feel comfortable wit & thats when Palmer excelled. He didnt have a run game for the better half of the season. The whole scheme was bullshit & people wit the football IQ of a fire ant seems to only find blame on the 1 bright spot from lastyear when nuttin went right. He made B. Myers look like T. Gonzalez. Wut, are next gonna say D. Mac is washed up because he didnt perform to ur liken? I would sit here & school u on the ins & out & nuances of football, but it ain't worth it giving the fact u know it all
bro I do know the game I never said am guru I said Payton n Brady r so let's clear that first n I ain't Ur homeboy n u schooling ha plz bro n I know its not basketball but Palmer is not the guy that's gonna get us in post season specially now that we got a new oc its whole new play book n am glad its gonna be power run cuz that's the best scheme around the players we have am just saying I don't think he's the future the guy was semi retired so it shows he didn't wanna play who fuckin does that besides farve if Ur a qb n u love the game u would play on any team n make Ur teamates better no matter if u don't have wepons u make them better Ur the fuckin heart that pumps n keeps the team alive n if u don't have that ..I worry a lot because he throws to many picks I know we had to throw the ball most of the time last season but if u don't c any one open don't try to force the ball n tight windows throw the ball away n live go fight another down to keep the drive alive ..I just hope he can pull it off this year since were going to run the ball more that should open up the play action ..we need to use Reece more then we do he's a fuckin weapon u can line him up as slot againts a corner or safety with his body size he can use that to his advantage he's gonna be more physical then a corner I can tell u that so if he wins at the line of scrimmage u can run a slant or n out route or he can do a double move against a defender n get open he use to be wr so he knows footwork n explode of the one of scrimmage n how to run routes ..n if its against a lb that's mismatch all day ..am not saying he should be a slot but just try him out a couple of plays to confuse the defense ..
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#13
Feb 3, 2013
 
Palmer is the unquestioned starter. I am not sure why people are thinking Pryor. Did they see the game against San Diego? He lost to a very suspect Defense in a meaningless game. On the bright side, he did show some flashes that he could one day be a Starter or at least he wasn't a wasted draft pick. Considering the coaches were hesitate to start him, saying he wasn't ready, he showed much more that. He showed he understood and could run the offense. He show poise. However, the game also showed that his passing needs to improve. He won the back-up job in San Diego, not he starter's job. The Raiders want him to compete for the starter's job next year in Camp, because that is the mindset of a capable back-up. He has to be ready at anytime. There is no QB contreversy in Oakland. Just a good situation and the ability to pick-up another QB in the draft, free agent etc.

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#14
Feb 4, 2013
 
This is silly. Carson Palmer was the best player on our team, whether that be offense or defense last season. Why wouldn't he start?

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#15
Feb 4, 2013
 
At least half of Carson's interceptions last season were due to receivers like DHB and Moore giving up on routes, not extending their arms, or because Carson was asked to "heave it deep".

The only reason we were close to a comeback in both of those games is because Carson threw his way there to begin with. You can make up some ground and some points by playing fast and loose for a while, but it comes back to bite you later.
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Im not saying Palmer shouldnt start. He need 2 stop killing the Team with those costly intercetions. We had the Falcons n Bucs when he killed US! I fervantly hope we get the last laugh on the bungles!

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#16
Feb 4, 2013
 
I Agree NJ Raider.
Nj raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text> Wut u think this is basketball bra? Football is thee ultimate team sport 1st of all so in no way does Palmer get the bulk of thee blame. 2ndly, Brady & Manning both of them have been in the same system for how long? Had Palmer been in the same system for as long as them, he'd probably have a ring or 2. Even now P. Manning is running the same offense as he did wit the colts. Yet u talking like ur a football guru. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that homie. It also dont take a elementary school student to see that under lastyears circumstances Carson did as well as anyone could expect. Greg Knapp need I say more? Also if u knew football like u accuse others of not knowing, u would've known that when running the no huddle QBs put in plays that they feel comfortable wit & thats when Palmer excelled. He didnt have a run game for the better half of the season. The whole scheme was bullshit & people wit the football IQ of a fire ant seems to only find blame on the 1 bright spot from lastyear when nuttin went right. He made B. Myers look like T. Gonzalez. Wut, are next gonna say D. Mac is washed up because he didnt perform to ur liken? I would sit here & school u on the ins & out & nuances of football, but it ain't worth it giving the fact u know it all

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#17
Feb 4, 2013
 
I will say it again. Last year, Carson Palmer was our best player at any position.
manzo_831 wrote:
<quoted text> bro I do know the game I never said am guru I said Payton n Brady r so let's clear that first n I ain't Ur homeboy n u schooling ha plz bro n I know its not basketball but Palmer is not the guy that's gonna get us in post season specially now that we got a new oc its whole new play book n am glad its gonna be power run cuz that's the best scheme around the players we have am just saying I don't think he's the future the guy was semi retired so it shows he didn't wanna play who fuckin does that besides farve if Ur a qb n u love the game u would play on any team n make Ur teamates better no matter if u don't have wepons u make them better Ur the fuckin heart that pumps n keeps the team alive n if u don't have that ..I worry a lot because he throws to many picks I know we had to throw the ball most of the time last season but if u don't c any one open don't try to force the ball n tight windows throw the ball away n live go fight another down to keep the drive alive ..I just hope he can pull it off this year since were going to run the ball more that should open up the play action ..we need to use Reece more then we do he's a fuckin weapon u can line him up as slot againts a corner or safety with his body size he can use that to his advantage he's gonna be more physical then a corner I can tell u that so if he wins at the line of scrimmage u can run a slant or n out route or he can do a double move against a defender n get open he use to be wr so he knows footwork n explode of the one of scrimmage n how to run routes ..n if its against a lb that's mismatch all day ..am not saying he should be a slot but just try him out a couple of plays to confuse the defense ..
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#18
Feb 4, 2013
 
Corran Horn wrote:
I will say it again. Last year, Carson Palmer was our best player at any position.
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This manzo 831 dude don't know football at all bra! Palmer was in the top 5/10 statistically all year. U don't go from a top 10 offense one year to picking 3rd in the draft without it being major coaching problems. & tho DA had nothing to do wit the offense, in retrospect that was his major problem, but with a year under his belt I'm willing to overlook lastyear wit hopes that he's learned from his mistakes. Thats the difference in fluxuating between mediocre to bottom of the barrel, & becoming a good team. Consistency! The team is only as good as the coach & structure around it. I like Pryor & believe he deserves a chance to win the job. Chances are he'll lose to Palmer anyway, but still he deserves it, but lastyear in no way did Palmer loser his job because of poor play.

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