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Tarvaris Jackson booed by Vikings fans as rookie QB Joe Webb shines

There are 210 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 2, 2010, titled Tarvaris Jackson booed by Vikings fans as rookie QB Joe Webb shines. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The play was a simple out route intended for receiver Javon Walker. Tarvaris Jackson missed the sideline spot a couple of yards left, usually an easy meal for a cornerback to gobble up.

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SuperSmart

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Sep 3, 2010
i wish brad childress' ego would let him dump this chump. every pick, especially a qb, isn't always going to pan out. get over it already and cut your ties with this practice field superstar.
Whatever

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Sep 3, 2010
from another site:

Some think Sage Rosenfels was Jason Cole's source -

Earlier today, MDS pointed out that, per Ed Werder of ESPN, Brett Favre met with his teammates in an effort to get one or more of them to quit talking to the media about a possible rift between Favre and coach Brad Childress.

Some think that Cole's source (or at least one of them) was quarterback Sage Rosenfels.

It's hardly a stretch. Applying Occam's Razor, Rosenfels is the obvious choice. He arrived via trade in 2009, with the belief he'd be competing only with Tarvaris Jackson for a shot at finally becoming an NFL starter. And it was V.P. of player personnel Rick Spielman, not Childress, who championed the move to get Rosenfels.

Favre unretired, and Rosenfels ended up being the odd man out in 2009, making not a single game appearance for the first time since his rookie year in 2001.

This year, Rosenfels was put on ice for large chunks of the offseason program, with Tarvaris Jackson and Joe Webb getting all of the work. Last week, with everyone expecting Favre to return, Jackson took limited snaps and Rosenfels was showcased against the Rams, throwing more than 30 passes and getting into separate sideline tiffs with Childress and offensive coordinator Darell Bevell.

Apart from the fact that Rosenfels would have the greatest natural incentive to tell tales about the teammate who screwed up Rosenfels' shot at being an every-down quarterback is the fact that a pipeline already exists between Rosenfels and Cole. It dates back to Cole's tenure with the Miami Herald, covering Rosenfels when he was a backup quarterback with the Dolphins. Last year, Cole interviewed Rosenfels after Favre reiterated his Second Annual Retirement, only a couple of weeks before his Second Annual Unretirement.

So if people outside the organization are connecting the fairly large dots, people inside the organization likely are doing it, too. And maybe that's what Rosenfels wants. If the team decides that he can't be trusted, maybe he won't have to spend the entire 2010 season all dressed out, with no place to play.

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1 - So, Childress never wanted Sage in the first place

and...

2 - Sage could be the divisive one leaking private team issues to the media

No wonder Childress wants to keep Jackson around. Not because he's stupid, and not because he's stubborn.

Because he can't stand Sage.
merks1

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Sep 3, 2010
what does T-jack have over childress? naked pics, having sex with a farm animal, what? There is no other reasonable explanation why he is with the team let alone being the #2 qb.
Daddy

Silvis, IL

#4 Sep 3, 2010
Childree is an Idiot, get rid of T.J. he isnt and never will be a NFL QB The gig is up
Sherm

AOL

#5 Sep 3, 2010
T-Joke was 12 for 26 for 60 yards combined in all four
preseason games. But KFAN radio show says he is still
a lock for the number QB.
The Hard Truth

Northome, MN

#6 Sep 3, 2010
Either Sage is a buddha or he's sharpening knives in the back room. I know I would be. Luckily, Brett has the cojones to stand up to the stubborn little coach. I wish the Wilf's did, too.

Let me be clear here: I'm not saying that Sage is the savior. I'm not even saying that Tarvaris is a terrible, irredeemable quarterback (though I think he is). What I'm saying is that the water is poisoned for TJack here. He needs a change. The little man is doing him no favors, nor is he doing any for the fans or for Wilf's chances at getting a stadium. Give TJack a fresh start and, by the way, consider doing the same for Mr. Childress. If only the Wilf's would see the gem they have standing on the sideline in Mr. Frazier and recognize that the time has come to take the next step.
Sherm

AOL

#7 Sep 3, 2010
Brad Johnson, Gus Ferrott, and Matt Birk , all could not stand Klink and wanted out because they thought he is an idiot.
Sherm

AOL

#8 Sep 3, 2010
This say's it all.........

"It's year five. Maybe my rookie year, my second or third year I would have gotten mad," said Jackson after Thursday's 31-24 preseason-ending win over Denver. "It's gotten to a point where I don't even care."
Serious bad QB

Perry, MI

#9 Sep 3, 2010
2 of 8 for 2 yards and the coach is happy with that? Nothing like insulting Sage with the comments how Sage saw different things that TJackson did during the first 3 preseason games. WHAT?
Its called running the offense regardless what the defense does. DUH! TJackson has been in the system for 4.5 years, when does he step up and make believers out of everyone? NEVER!!

Watch, they will lose Joe Web~ Wake up, Childress~
yooperbill

AOL

#10 Sep 3, 2010
Goodbye TJack,its been nice knowing you,dont let the door hit you in the arse as you leave the locker room for the last time,Webb will look good holding the clipboard this year and compete strongly to fill Favres shoes next season.
durno99

Winona, MN

#11 Sep 3, 2010
There is a reason he played at Northern Alabama, he is not that good. Just because a guy has a strong arm does not mean you can make him smart and that is what you need to be to QB in the NFL! It is year 5 and there is NOTHING there that says T-Jack will lead this team period! He has started, played in a home play-off game(lost) and watched Brett Favre for a year. If it has not happened by now it NEVER will. Sage has shown the ability to get the ball to wide receivers, not get sacked and understand the offense while sharing information with Favre and Bevell on the sidelines. And guess what, it was during a game and not PRACTICE. I would bet my last dollar that if it was up to Brett Favre to make a choice on who should back him up it is a no-brainer. And then they wonder why Brett says Chilly does not know offense and Sage may have shared that information. Brett and Sage communicate and apply their knowledge. Who would you side with, Brett and Sage or Chilly and T-Jack? Go T-Jack and take Chilly with ya!
Waldo

Melbourne, FL

#12 Sep 3, 2010
If Jackson is number two, why is Sage and Favre always hanging together on the sidelnes? I think there's a Schism.........
c-man

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Sep 3, 2010
They already have an athletic backup QB in Webb. And on the cheap too. Keep Webb and Sage, problem solved.
Huge Jazz

Chicoutimi, Canada

#14 Sep 3, 2010
Chili I've been a supporter of yours here and still am. I'm not an NFL coach so I don't know squat compared to you. But I've given TJ the benefit of the doubt going on the 5th year. It is painfully obvious to everyone except you that he is not an NFL QB. He just isn't. After 5 years he has reached his "potential" and it isn't as an NFL QB.

Maybe he belongs at a different position. But it isn't at QB. He hasn't improved at all on the field, during a game, when it matters most. We the fans don't see the practices where you say he's improved. We see it on the field during games when he should be impressing the heck out of us, and more importantly, you. You cannot say with a straight face that he has shown during a game, ANY game, that he has improved like you say he has. After 5 years in the same system, given every break and opportunity to learn, improve and show the improvement when it matters Jackson seems to have reached his limit. He just flat out cannot play QB at the NFL level.

Jackson says the boos don't bother him. He remains a flatline guy. There is a difference between flatline and calm under pressure. I interpret his reactions as "I don't care". He's checked out. His play and reations shows me he doesn't want to play here. He does not instill confidence or leadership the rest of the team, or the fans, can rally behind and trust.

Chili....Brad....it's time to cut your losses and move on without him.
jim

Chippewa Falls, WI

#15 Sep 3, 2010
This proves that last year was all Favre.
Childress will show if he is as stupid as the fans think with who he keeps.
T-jack has never shown he can produce during games.
Come to think of it T-jack has never had an impact like Joe Webb or Rosenfels has had in a pre-season game.
As the 'leader' of the team with guys fighting for jobs, shouldn't the qb try his hardest to make the players around him look good?
So, is it T-jack or his supporting cast?
t-joke blows

Jacksonville, FL

#16 Sep 3, 2010
Jackson is great at slant passes. Too bad that can be fixed with a zone defense.
Frank W

Spartanburg, SC

#17 Sep 3, 2010
The only possible justification for keeping Jackson over Rosenfels as the top backup is that Rosenfels could be traded for a player who can make the roster and contribute. But even that's a stretch. There's no excuse for keeping 4 QBs, and quite frankly, there's no excuse for keeping Jackson as the #2 QB. He stunk the entire preseason, whereas at least Rosenfels showed some signs of improvement over last year's preseason.

This garbage of Childress jettisoning other backup QBs in favor of Jackson has got to stop. I'm sure TJ is a nice guy, but he's not cut out to be a starter, and he's not even the best backup on the team anymore. He should be gone.

Can't help but think all this is occuring just because Childress wants to save his precious little ego. He's still married to the idea that he can turn Jackson into the next McNabb. Newsflash, Brad: it ain't happening.
Bob

Canton, IL

#19 Sep 3, 2010
I don't see how you can keep Jackson over Sage. He has shown nothing in games, whatever he's shown in practice. I don't know of any wins awarded for practice play. In games, he looks like a scared rabbit, not like someone who will make a star QB. When is it time to say he will not make it?
Zeke

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Sep 3, 2010
Simple, Jackson has no trade value, Sage might...
HereWeGoAgain

De Soto, WI

#21 Sep 3, 2010
"It's year five. Maybe my rookie year, my second or third year I would have gotten mad," said Jackson after Thursday's 31-24 preseason-ending win over Denver. "It's gotten to a point where I don't even care."

No truer words have ever been spoken. TJoke really does not care. He just doesn't, not about the team, not about the fans. He might have evolved in practice where he can yuck it up with his teammates, but come game time. He's nothing but a big, big let down. If the Vikings keep him, the fans will not be happy. Let me rephrase that: The payers of player salaries will not be happy. That, without the HOFer next year, will surely be the end to the Chillmeister AND TJoke. Period. I don't care how lackluster Rosenfels's play is/was 4th preseason. I think we know he cares. That's all I need to hear. He has done more than just evolved.

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