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Bob Sansevere: Vikings' Frazier should take leap of faith and start Joe Webb at QB

There are 113 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 14, 2010, titled Bob Sansevere: Vikings' Frazier should take leap of faith and start Joe Webb at QB. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Ever see the video of Joe Webb leaping over seven workout bags stacked nearly 6 feet high? It's quite impressive.

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sean

Duluth, MN

#103 Dec 15, 2010
please start Webb for the remainder of the season.
haha

Milwaukee, WI

#104 Dec 15, 2010
i think its simpler than i think. I watched tjack start the game and thought he was alright until he hurt ap. Then Webb came in and the few throws he made i thought were more on target than anything tjack had thrown all night. its late in the season, i say screw spending money to bring someone else in and just start webb.
foldenfan

Fergus Falls, MN

#105 Dec 15, 2010
Amen Bob. Getting Joe Webb some experience under fire is the best way to grow a QB!

Now folks may understand why Childress should NOT have been allowed to dump Sage!!!!
jonnyk

Eden Prairie, MN

#106 Dec 15, 2010
I have seen enough of TJ for one lifetime!!
Harry

Anaheim, CA

#108 Dec 15, 2010
haha wrote:
i think its simpler than i think. I watched tjack start the game and thought he was alright until he hurt ap. Then Webb came in and the few throws he made i thought were more on target than anything tjack had thrown all night. its late in the season, i say screw spending money to bring someone else in and just start webb.
The knee-to-knee hit with AP. That goes in the highlight reel with the jump passes, and Chilly's jump up in the draft to grab TJerk.
vikesfan

Minneapolis, MN

#109 Dec 15, 2010
heres my answers to the vikings , first you need a foundation the foundation would be sign frazier as headcoach , sign brian billick as offensive cord , sign tony dungy as defensive cord , sign mike marts as assistant head coach, with rice, peterson, harvin, webb , and maybe get a fitzgerald , get a quality quarterback but dont over reach , beef the o line , theres no reason that those players shouldnt be able to put up 30 a game . with billick and martz proven , frazier and dungy proven . do it.
wayne

Boca Raton, FL

#110 Dec 15, 2010
what possible long term good could come from playing Favre and exposing him to reinjury while simultaneously depriving the other QB's of valuable playing time????
Crankenstein

Mankato, MN

#111 Dec 15, 2010
erie-vike fan wrote:
<quoted text>My problem with your post is this......HOW do you know what this kid has got if you don't play him? And given the QB situation next year the Vikes need as much info. as possible to disseminate going into the off season so they can have a plan as to what they need to do via FA or the draft.
I think this is the PERFECT scenario to play Webb.
Here is why that doesn't apply in Webb's case. Unlike many of the other QBs listed as "evidence" that starting early doesn't derail them long-term, Webb was considered a WR and likely hasn't received the kind of tutorials that many of the young upstart QBs did. Some want to point to guys like Bradford and Ryan as examples of good things arising when thrown into the Lion's den. The distinction is that when drafted, the real possibility of starting was known. Nobody....nobody....believes that Joe Webb would see one snap this season. The man hasn't had the advantage of starting all years as a QB in college, go through the draft anticipating getting selected as a QB and hardly had an opportunity this year to really work as though he might play.

The issue isn't whether he would benefit from getting a few games in; sure he might pick up a trick or two but this is ONLY being done because of failure and injury. He would inherit a horrible situation; high expectation team playing horrifically. To put an utterly ill prepared player who only started THINKING ABOUT SEEING THE FIELD within the past couple of days out there to "see what might happen" facing back/back teams vying for playoff positioning isn't just bad; it's irresponsible.

That Sansever, who has covered pro sports long enough to know better, doesn't see this is what is really suprising.

Webb's situation is very different than many of those held out as examples of this working. It probably isn't worthy repeating the very long list of would-be next "great thing" QB's who had careers go straight down the toilet for being thrown into bad situations. Considering the Vikings pre-season expectations and subsequent play, I can't think of a situation in recent history in the NFL that would be WORSE than this one.

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Erie

#112 Dec 15, 2010
Crankenstein wrote:
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Here is why that doesn't apply in Webb's case. Unlike many of the other QBs listed as "evidence" that starting early doesn't derail them long-term, Webb was considered a WR and likely hasn't received the kind of tutorials that many of the young upstart QBs did. Some want to point to guys like Bradford and Ryan as examples of good things arising when thrown into the Lion's den. The distinction is that when drafted, the real possibility of starting was known. Nobody....nobody....believes that Joe Webb would see one snap this season. The man hasn't had the advantage of starting all years as a QB in college, go through the draft anticipating getting selected as a QB and hardly had an opportunity this year to really work as though he might play.
The issue isn't whether he would benefit from getting a few games in; sure he might pick up a trick or two but this is ONLY being done because of failure and injury. He would inherit a horrible situation; high expectation team playing horrifically. To put an utterly ill prepared player who only started THINKING ABOUT SEEING THE FIELD within the past couple of days out there to "see what might happen" facing back/back teams vying for playoff positioning isn't just bad; it's irresponsible.
That Sansever, who has covered pro sports long enough to know better, doesn't see this is what is really suprising.
Webb's situation is very different than many of those held out as examples of this working. It probably isn't worthy repeating the very long list of would-be next "great thing" QB's who had careers go straight down the toilet for being thrown into bad situations. Considering the Vikings pre-season expectations and subsequent play, I can't think of a situation in recent history in the NFL that would be WORSE than this one.
This makes a lot of sense.........well thought out post, TY.
Harry

Anaheim, CA

#113 Dec 15, 2010
Crankenstein wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is why that doesn't apply in Webb's case. Unlike many of the other QBs listed as "evidence" that starting early doesn't derail them long-term, Webb was considered a WR and likely hasn't received the kind of tutorials that many of the young upstart QBs did. Some want to point to guys like Bradford and Ryan as examples of good things arising when thrown into the Lion's den. The distinction is that when drafted, the real possibility of starting was known. Nobody....nobody....believes that Joe Webb would see one snap this season. The man hasn't had the advantage of starting all years as a QB in college, go through the draft anticipating getting selected as a QB and hardly had an opportunity this year to really work as though he might play.
The issue isn't whether he would benefit from getting a few games in; sure he might pick up a trick or two but this is ONLY being done because of failure and injury. He would inherit a horrible situation; high expectation team playing horrifically. To put an utterly ill prepared player who only started THINKING ABOUT SEEING THE FIELD within the past couple of days out there to "see what might happen" facing back/back teams vying for playoff positioning isn't just bad; it's irresponsible.
That Sansever, who has covered pro sports long enough to know better, doesn't see this is what is really suprising.
Webb's situation is very different than many of those held out as examples of this working. It probably isn't worthy repeating the very long list of would-be next "great thing" QB's who had careers go straight down the toilet for being thrown into bad situations. Considering the Vikings pre-season expectations and subsequent play, I can't think of a situation in recent history in the NFL that would be WORSE than this one.
Sure you can! Denny Green starting Spurgeon Wynn.

It was a TJoke preview.

“Obamacs at it's finest!”

Since: Mar 09

Anytown, Minnesota........

#114 Dec 16, 2010
The Hard Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, we understand that you don't like Obama. Now, try for a minute to explain what your stupid comment has to do with the column?
hey, at least he didn't bring race into it..........
Gmith

Hawley, MN

#115 Dec 16, 2010
How do you overcome inexperience? By doing it!
Start Joe Webb!
Vikes fan living in Big D

Kannapolis, NC

#116 Dec 16, 2010
Start Joe Webb and let's see what he's got. We having nothing to loose at this point and everything to gain. We need a QB for next year and TJ is NOT it.

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