Colts' $72 million man

Colts' $72 million man

There are 136 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jul 13, 2007, titled Colts' $72 million man. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

After five years of chasing quarterbacks, Indianapolis Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney will be paid like one.

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Stumblebum

Indianapolis, IN

#126 Jul 27, 2007
Correction:

I'd be ashamed, not proud, if my achievements were subsidized with money taken from unwilling people.
EDGERRIN FAN

Lake Forest, IL

#127 Jul 27, 2007
We love the Colts and hold season tickets.But,
IS HE REALLY WORTH IT?
the watcher

Indianapolis, IN

#128 Jul 27, 2007
say what wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an idiot. I guess that sales tax on Donut counties that pays for their new stadium is not tax money being paid to the Colts because Irsay gets profits from it. You are right, how did they ever link those two together? What a joke Irsay puts in 10% and gets 50% of everything...even when it isn't even a Colts related event..WHAT A F'ing JOKE!
It's a game, you morons!! Yes, we the people are ponying up the cash for it, and, yes we are to blame for the idiots in office that are supposed to be looking out for us! But boy, didn't Jimmy Irsay get a good deal? He and the Bartman must be Bu**buddies!

“here's the BEEF”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis , In.

#129 Jul 28, 2007
EDGERRIN FAN wrote:
We love the Colts and hold season tickets.But,
IS HE REALLY WORTH IT?
WHAT professional sports player IS worth the money they make???..Freeney got his just due compensation , He is 1 of the best ends in the league (if not the best) & thats how they (mangmt.) figure what they (WE) will pay him , Is/was Manning worth a 100 + million ??? None of them are , they go by averages in the league @ their pos...& then the people who go to the games pay those salaries
COLTS IN 08

Utica, KY

#130 Jul 28, 2007
EDGERRIN FAN wrote:
We love the Colts and hold season tickets.But,
IS HE REALLY WORTH IT?
He oviously is, because with this deal he is getting 30 mill up front in 2 years. Had we franchised taded him 2 years strait we would have had to pay him about 11.something mill the first year, then 14 mill the following year because of overpaid defenders like Adalious Thomas. Had that happened Freeney would have been upset and gotten a little over 25 Mill up front in 2 years + most likely an even bigger Long-term deal.

Also next year it should be interesting to see what kind of long-term contracts defenders like Julious Peppers and Brian Urlacher
get.
Shawn Merriman

AOL

#131 Jul 29, 2007
EDGERRIN FAN wrote:
We love the Colts and hold season tickets.But,
IS HE REALLY WORTH IT?
Of course he is worth it. 5.5 sacks in 20 games last year. I am suprised he took such a small contract.
Mitch

United States

#132 Jul 29, 2007
Stumblebum wrote:
<quoted text>I'd be ashamed, not proud, if my achievements were subsidized with many taken from unwilling people. Defenders of football socialism make much the same arguements of those who defended the divine right of kings. Some defensive ends, like some kings, are just so darned good that they deserve to have money confiscated for their benefit.
Ironic you want to lump all 'supporters' in the same group. As if your argument is any more intriguing or diverse from the other wailers in life complaining about everything under the sun particularly focusing on anyone more fortunate than you in society.

Not sure where you were trying to go with the King thought. DE's are simply supply and demand - which you clearly don't want to see or understand. Worth is only in the eye of the consumer – and in Freeney’s case, NFL franchises.

And don’t bring up the whole tax thing. Really, how often do you really eat out or stay in a hotel in Indy? You likely add less than $20 a year to the fund. Why don’t you go and complain about something worth while – like the tenured teacher at your local elementary that started ‘mailing it in’ years ago. That is someone you are really pay for each and every day.
curly

AOL

#133 Jul 29, 2007
Pats got the geldings number this year...

yuk, yuk, yuk,
Stumblebum

Indianapolis, IN

#134 Jul 30, 2007
Mitch wrote:
<quoted text>DE's are simply supply and demand - which you clearly don't want to see or understand. Worth is only in the eye of the consumer – and in Freeney’s case, NFL franchises.
Then we can eliminate all taxes and other government subsidies for NFL teams that rely on supply and demand, right?
Mitch

Union, MO

#135 Jul 30, 2007
Stumblebum wrote:
<quoted text>Then we can eliminate all taxes and other government subsidies for NFL teams that rely on supply and demand, right?
You are going down too many roads here. This is a completely different argument. Indy threw money at this project for a lot reasons, but mainly because Indy NEEDS the Colts. I know you are going to disagree with this but any lucid person realizes the city needs the Colts far more than, say, the Bears need Chicago.

You obviously feel sports, athletes, and anything generally related shouldn't receive funds. Fine - just stop wasting our time because you are not revolutionizing the minds in this forum. Your arguments aren’t even original ones at that. Create something scientific and take it to someone who cares.
Stumblebum

Indianapolis, IN

#136 Jul 30, 2007
Mitch wrote:
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You are going down too many roads here. This is a completely different argument. Indy threw money at this project for a lot reasons, but mainly because Indy NEEDS the Colts. I know you are going to disagree with this but any lucid person realizes the city needs the Colts far more than, say, the Bears need Chicago.
You obviously feel sports, athletes, and anything generally related shouldn't receive funds. Fine - just stop wasting our time because you are not revolutionizing the minds in this forum. Your arguments aren’t even original ones at that. Create something scientific and take it to someone who cares.
One minor point. The city is taking my money for this scam. You are right that many locals think the town is somehow deficient without the Colts. That's a sad statement about the Hoosier inferiority complex.
Mitch

Union, MO

#137 Jul 30, 2007
Stumblebum wrote:
<quoted text>One minor point. The city is taking my money for this scam. You are right that many locals think the town is somehow deficient without the Colts. That's a sad statement about the Hoosier inferiority complex.
Fantastic, we have found the best resolution to this issue. Many beautiful cities in Indiana don't have this problem. I am sure Terre Haute, Gary, and Marion would welcome your residency. There, problem solved.
Indy guy in Alaska

Montgomery, AL

#138 Jul 31, 2007
Given the state the defense is in yes I think we needed to keep freeney, could we of traded around for a few linebackers probably not, freeney is a small d lineman what he does is 100% skill but the secret is out on him he is double teamed all day and will never see the light of day during a game, the unspoken heroes on the defense we lost to free agency why we let cato june is a mystery to me but hey he won the bowl and we got rid of the nagging choke artist persona that follows with being a colts fan, how we go from sports to politics amazes me its like mixing oil and water two things that never go well together.
Stumblebum

Indianapolis, IN

#139 Aug 3, 2007
This 1999 article applies quite nicely:

Stadium Socialism
http://www.mises.org/freemarket_detail.asp...

Once built, these white elephants are then rented to highly profitable major league sports teams, which certainly have the resources to build their own ballparks. Teams get rich. Salaries of even rotten players go through the roof (Bill Veeck, the maverick owner of several major league teams, used to complain about the "high price of mediocrity").
Mitch

Union, MO

#140 Aug 3, 2007
Stumblebum wrote:
This 1999 article applies quite nicely:
Stadium Socialism
http://www.mises.org/freemarket_detail.asp...
Once built, these white elephants are then rented to highly profitable major league sports teams, which certainly have the resources to build their own ballparks. Teams get rich. Salaries of even rotten players go through the roof (Bill Veeck, the maverick owner of several major league teams, used to complain about the "high price of mediocrity").
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ...Your tiresome logic is like a tree falling in the forest - sure it make a sound, just no one is listening.

“here's the BEEF”

Since: Mar 07

Indianapolis , In.

#141 Aug 4, 2007
Indy guy in Alaska wrote:
Given the state the defense is in yes I think we needed to keep freeney, could we of traded around for a few linebackers probably not, freeney is a small d lineman what he does is 100% skill but the secret is out on him he is double teamed all day and will never see the light of day during a game, the unspoken heroes on the defense we lost to free agency why we let cato june is a mystery to me but hey he won the bowl and we got rid of the nagging choke artist persona that follows with being a colts fan, how we go from sports to politics amazes me its like mixing oil and water two things that never go well together.
I know there were quite a few losses from last yer's "D" , but the Colt's anticipared that & have some decent replacements..Last year's "D" was pathetic until the playoffs , so I feel OK about the "D" thus far , its the off. left tackle that I,m worrying about!

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