Redskins bring down bumbling Giants

Redskins bring down bumbling Giants

There are 18 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 17, 2007, titled Redskins bring down bumbling Giants. In it, Newsday reports that:

Under Tom Coughlin, the Giants have made it a habit to not do things the easy way.

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Giantsfan1

United States

#1 Dec 17, 2007
Truely pathetic. They can't beat a team with a starting QB that hasn't started in 10 years. Not for nothing but what was with the play calling. Over 50 pass attempts on an extremely windy evening. 1st and 10 from the Redskin 20 and they throw twice into the endzone. What was that? We need a back that can catch the ball. Jacobs has hands of stone. And Mr Mckenzie, don't complain about Giants fans. They have been sold out for decades wherewas the Giants have 2 titles. With football like last night, you deserve to be booed.
lamartrotti

United States

#2 Dec 17, 2007
On Eli Manning. I've watched that man's face in close up many a times and wonder if he's happy. He always looks as if he's bewildered and slightly confused and ondering "what am I doing here." I've thought about it and conclude that he would be happier doing something else and that being a star quarterback is more his father's idea than his own.
Like so many adequate quarterbacks, I see him as a backup somewhere in the NFL or even an assistant coach at some college. He does not have the winning quarterback's mentality or drive.
www

Waterbury, CT

#4 Dec 17, 2007
"opie" manning is at best, just average. the receivers, at best, are average. with shockey, just average, now gone, the tight end position will now be less than average. and you cannot win by just running the ball the entire game. but, most of all, the offensive coach, kilbride, is not even close to being " just average". he has no clue! an example, early on in the game, jacobs ran right, and gained about 17 yards. the next ten, or eleven times he ran the ball, all to the left, he gained a total of about 12 yards or so. hello!, is anybody home? and, if the safety for washington, as was pointed out by the announcers, was playing about twenty five yards deep, wouldn't it make sense to try some passing plays about ten or fifteen yards deep? you know, you take what they give you. this team, if it were to make the playoffs, and it doesn't look good right now, will not go beyond the first game. simply put, they aren't good enough! and how long before the defense starts getting on the offense to start doing something?
UsedtobeaLIer

Wesley Chapel, FL

#5 Dec 17, 2007
Time for the Giants brass to admit they screwed up and replace the QB and the coach. This ain't no playoff team. Their record is misleading. Manning is inept and Coughlin is a relic. Time for change!
chas521

Bronx, NY

#6 Dec 17, 2007
Giantsfan1 wrote:
Truely pathetic. They can't beat a team with a starting QB that hasn't started in 10 years. Not for nothing but what was with the play calling. Over 50 pass attempts on an extremely windy evening. 1st and 10 from the Redskin 20 and they throw twice into the endzone. What was that? We need a back that can catch the ball. Jacobs has hands of stone. And Mr Mckenzie, don't complain about Giants fans. They have been sold out for decades wherewas the Giants have 2 titles. With football like last night, you deserve to be booed.
I completely agree!
ToddFromAstoria

New York, NY

#7 Dec 17, 2007
Absolutely pitiful! Wide-open pass to Toomer and he drops it? Jacobs can't catch the ball. C'mon now...This is what you are paid to do. WTF??? This Redskins team are scrubs. If the Giants were playoff contenders they would have manhandled the skins. Instead BigBlue are playoff pretenders.
Mike

Woolrich, PA

#8 Dec 17, 2007
I am a huge Giant fan but I have to admit, we are the worst 9-5 team you ever saw. I see us getting knocked out in the first game again...thats is we make it.

Everyone puts the blame on Eli but I played quaterback in college and know that if there are no options you are doomed. They dropped 12 passes and nobody gets and seperation from the defense. While he is not a great QB they wouldn't be much different with a better QB. It's teh system around him.

All the blame has to be on the coach, sorry but they are not well coached.
Mike

Woolrich, PA

#9 Dec 17, 2007
lamartrotti wrote:
On Eli Manning. I've watched that man's face in close up many a times and wonder if he's happy. He always looks as if he's bewildered and slightly confused and ondering "what am I doing here." I've thought about it and conclude that he would be happier doing something else and that being a star quarterback is more his father's idea than his own.
Like so many adequate quarterbacks, I see him as a backup somewhere in the NFL or even an assistant coach at some college. He does not have the winning quarterback's mentality or drive.
I disagree, put Eli on a better coached team and I would bet he would be pretty darn good. His recievers dropped 12 passes and they rarely get seperation. He also had not time last night. Not many QB's would do well with all of that.

The problem here is the coach and the system. They take dumb penalties, they call terrible plays, they can't win at home. The coaching is to blame.
cheese w that whine

Newnan, GA

#10 Dec 17, 2007
ToddFromAstoria wrote:
Absolutely pitiful! Wide-open pass to Toomer and he drops it? Jacobs can't catch the ball. C'mon now...This is what you are paid to do. WTF??? This Redskins team are scrubs. If the Giants were playoff contenders they would have manhandled the skins. Instead BigBlue are playoff pretenders.
toomer heard laron landry bearing down on him baby....hence the drop. skins dropped about 5 interceptions too--score could have been 40 -- 0 at halftime. what a loyal fan base--huge game and sooooo many no shows. skins started 0--3 run for giants--who now must pull for skins next week to beat Minn--LOL!! skins out hit and out played gints...stop whining and take it like a man. skins without half of o-line and 2--3 started in secondary and 1--2 missing from lnbkrs and backup QB and underachvg wr's but they out hustled and out played and ran over giants. that call on landry was pure bs after he bitchslapped plexiglass--paleeze.what about giants simulating nailing a coffin after a sack? no call there.....no matter though as giants now can enjoy an 0 and 3 finish and another feeble backing into post season
venom

Albany, NY

#11 Dec 17, 2007
maybe this is a NFL Network conspiracy. Now the last game against the Pats may have more meaning than seeing if the Pats go undefeated. The Giants may be fighting to get in the playoffs. I have to find a bar or get Direct TV .

thank you TW and Calevision and NFL owners for being so Fan-tastic
Manhasset Mauler

Washington, DC

#13 Dec 17, 2007
Gilbride is awful -- Jacobs is running it down their throat and they kill the drive by chucking hail marys to a double-covered Burress in the end zone.

I have a feeling the ineptitude of the offense is starting to wear on the defense -- that wasn't a very inspired performance last night, particularly the secondary.

Let's face it -- 9-7 would have been an optimistic prediction at the beginning of the year. Even without the injuries, that's about as good as it's going to get with this roster. Making the playoffs is almost irrelevant at this point -- they will lose to whomever they play post-season, like the previous two years.

As I've always said, Giants brass consider this a throwaway season to finish off Coughlin's contract -- everything up till now has been gravy. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
KJ from Queens

Decatur, GA

#15 Dec 17, 2007
Mike wrote:
I am a huge Giant fan but I have to admit, we are the worst 9-5 team you ever saw. I see us getting knocked out in the first game again...thats is we make it.
Everyone puts the blame on Eli but I played quaterback in college and know that if there are no options you are doomed. They dropped 12 passes and nobody gets and seperation from the defense. While he is not a great QB they wouldn't be much different with a better QB. It's teh system around him.
All the blame has to be on the coach, sorry but they are not well coached.
You're right about the 9-5 comment, however, your defense of Eli is off. How many games have they played where the receivers are dropping passes left and right? How many games has Eli made dumb decisions, horrible passes and looks lost? There is no comparison. Tiki said it the best after the game....Eli has not gotten any better, period! It was not all his fault last night, the play calling was horrific. Inside the Redskins 25 by running the ball and they call 3 straight pass plays? Third and 5 inside the 15 and they call a pass into double coverage in the endzone after Jacobs was chewing them up? This has been the story for Tom Coughlin and his O-Coordinators. All of you forgetful fans booing Tiki, have forgotten that he used to consistanly bail this team and QB out. Do you think he would have dropped those passes that Jacobs did as a safety valve? G-Men one and done if they make the playoffs.
Dont hate Eli

Savannah, GA

#16 Dec 17, 2007
I love all these Giant fans.
Eli sucks, this one sucks.
When the guy was winning 6 in a row
no one said a word.. The Giant's
lose a game and it's all Eli's
fault.. At this point I hope Eli
askes for a trade to a team in the
NFC south. So every other year or so
he can come and beat the G-men.
I would love to see the posts on
this newspaper blog then.
If you needed another reason to
clean out the coaching staff of the
Giants last night should have been
it. Keep Spags. He knows what he's
doing. Gilbride, the wideout coach
the head coach should all be shown
the door.. It's the system that is
broken not the players.. With Moss,
Smith, the G-men have some young WO
with speed. But there not used
correctly. Thank God they drafted
Boss.. Next year I want Shockey in
the Slot on every play.. This guy is
wasted again this year. Don't be
surprised to see him walk when his
contract is up.. Throwing 50 + times
= a loss..
Go Giants
easywind

New York, NY

#17 Dec 17, 2007
Eli's receivers dropped 12 passes? What game is this writer watching, certainly not the same game I watched. When a panicky QB throws a ball 6 feet away at 100 miles an hour at the receivers feet I don't call that a drop.
Worst gameplan I've seen in a long time, trying to get Jacobs going wide just takes his power away and is a stupid idea.
Eli has/was/is and will always look like a deer caught in the headlights. He looks for Burris and doesn't EVER look elsewhere. I swear a 15 year old could defend him.
Gfan

United States

#18 Dec 17, 2007
Gilbride and Coughlin are done. Eli can't be blamed for all the dropped passes. They lost this game in the first quarter. The play calling is terrible. This team makes the playoffs with Coughlin...imagine if they had a decent coach and offensive coordinator?
giantman

Auburndale, FL

#19 Dec 17, 2007
Got rid of lewis, Gilbride next. Keep Tom unless they blow the next 2. How can any one defend Eli? After 4 years he is Average at best and still makes the same rookie mistakes over and over. If he was a low round Pick or FA. Fine. But he was the #1 over all pick and I thought Kerry was bad throwing off his back foot He acts afraid of the rush. On NFL Network Deon ( who I hate) When told Shockey was out said " What difference does it make? They dont use him right any way" Here in Tampa, sports radio guys and all the Buc fans want the Giants because of ELI. That was one of todays topics. Hope thyere embarrased enough to go and destroy the Bills and then the Bucs.
Old School

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Dec 17, 2007
G0d-damn it!!! What is wrong with you guys? Now 2 teams you should have beaten at home!!! Forget about the playoffs, even if you crawl into them you will be toast.
Jints Fan

New Rochelle, NY

#21 Dec 17, 2007
What is Tom C. thinking. I remember plenty of December Giants games over the years where it was throw with the wind for a full quarter, run against the wind for the opposite quarter.
Both the Coach and the Giants' QB's knew about the wind patterns, and used it to their advantage.
But this game?!? Every which way but on target. Yes, the reciever's played with stone hands, but Manning's passes wobbled like dying ducks in the air.
Poorly planned and poorly executed.

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