Vikings not sure what Packers will lo...

Vikings not sure what Packers will look like without Brett Favre

There are 42 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 5, 2008, titled Vikings not sure what Packers will look like without Brett Favre. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

For the past 16 seasons, playing defense against the Green Bay Packers meant designing a game plan around quarterback Brett Favre.

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ZygiZag

Steen, MN

#1 Sep 6, 2008
Prepare for them like last year??? I hope not.
Would like to see AD and CT split the backfield. Fakes to one then go to the other. Screens. Reverses. Flee flicker. Hope to see lots of pressure on Rogers. A few D scores as a result.
I hope the prep is nothing like it was last year.
Then again with Chilli, we can only hope ....
Chilli is 0-4 against the pack. If he goes 0-6 can your really keep going with him as the coach to get it done. This game is big, but not too big. If we win we are not necessary NFC Central Champ and if we lose we have not lost the division. At some point if you are going to be a contender you have to beat your rivals. Zygi has given Chilli everything he has asked for. It is time for action. Go Vikings.
Vikes fan in WI

Stevens Point, WI

#2 Sep 6, 2008
Rodgers breakout game against Dallas was when they were so far ahead that they played in the prevent defense. Basically giving him everything 15-20 yards from the line of scrimmage. Maybe as a sportswriter it isn't compatible in stating the full story.
If the Viks got Farve

United States

#3 Sep 6, 2008
No wonder, this is an automatic loss-Chilly6 has yet to beat the Packers and he never will before he is fired after this rotten season
40for60

United States

#4 Sep 6, 2008
Favre was 'sneaky quick'?
I call it pocket presence, after all those years behind center, Favre had the sixth sense working for him. He could feel the defense around him, and he was uncanny at doing just enough to avoid it. Rodgers might be more nimble at his age, but he doesn't possess the pocket presence that Favre had. I fully expect Rodgers sack numbers to be twice what Brett's were.
IF the Vikes shut down the run like they are able, then they basically have two people to contain. Driver, and Jennings. Without run support, and close tabs on these two, the offensive juggernaut that was the packers will deflate. Rodgers needs to taste the lambeau turf early and often, and once the fans turn on Aaron, the fat lady will be tuning up.
Jerry

Clarksburg, WV

#5 Sep 6, 2008
Rodgers took over in the 2nd quarter, and Dallas would not have been playing a prevent defense that early in the game. Actually he caught them off guard with his mobility more than anything.

The Vikes will use the tapes from preseason including that game with SF where they sacked the Pack a number of times. That will be the Vikes defensive approach also. He can scramble and Minn. will try and contain him.

The Pack will have 4 outstanding WR on the field even with James Jones out. Rodgers connects best with Ruvell Martin, who he played on the scout team with for a couple of years and their good friends. Lumpkin just may catch the Vikes off guard if they are not prepared for him.

The Green Bay fans are not going to turn on Rodgers, in fact just the opposite, they'll give him time to prove himself.
Pack stops here

New Richmond, WI

#6 Sep 6, 2008
Its all over except the crying, This is not the same team with out Favre and not even the team is backing Rodgers.. Say good night Gracy
Steve

Winona, MN

#7 Sep 6, 2008
Many posts I have been reading leading up to this game point to the fact that the Vikings pass rush will be the difference. WRONG!! If Vikings fans think that the Packers will place Rodgers in situations where he is dropping back and spending time too much time looking to throw the ball downfield, they are fooling themselves. The Packer offensive game plan will be a simple one. Quick timing patterns (something the Vikings defense has always been terrible covering)so that Rodgers will be able to get in a comfort zone and not be pressured by the front four of the Vikings. Green Bay's receivers are athletic enough to turn these 5-7 yd. routes into something bigger. Then in the second half, after the Vikings front four has had to take a step back to adjust to the Packers game plan, Rodgers will then have more time to exploit the Vikings secondary downfield.

The real key here is not whether the Vikings defense can control the Packers offense, but whether the Vikings can muster up enough offense of their own to score some points. G.B will obviously key on Peterson, so unless the Vikings can generate something from their passing game (which was non-existent in the pre-season, no matter who was in at QB for the Vikes), this could be a long-frustrating game for the purple. Adding Allen at DE was a great move in the off-season, but unless your entire defense works as a unit togther, it won't make any difference. The Vikings are still very vulnerable in the secondary and a qulity offensive opponent will continue to exploit this. Hasselback in pre-season game #1 virtually did whatever he wanted to do against the Vkings defense in that game, and the Vikings had their full complement of defensive players on the field during that game. For those that will argue that the Vikings haven't been showing their full defensive package yet, well, guess what, neither have the opponent's shown the Vikings their full offensive game plans either.
pdq

Tijeras, NM

#8 Sep 6, 2008
Here's to another loser of a season!!!!
Mad Dog Gus

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Sep 6, 2008
If the Packer's coaching staff didn't feel that Rodgers was ready, they would have welcomed Favre back.

With Rodgers, it will be more of a balanced team effort. Favre is and was a distraction that they can do without. They were 13 and 3 last year because they had talent as a team, not because of Favre.

What I'm afraid of is that TJack isn't ready.......
40for60

United States

#10 Sep 6, 2008
Steve wrote:
Many posts I have been reading leading up to this game point to the fact that the Vikings pass rush will be the difference. WRONG!! If Vikings fans think that the Packers will place Rodgers in situations where he is dropping back and spending time too much time looking to throw the ball downfield, they are fooling themselves. The Packer offensive game plan will be a simple one. Quick timing patterns (something the Vikings defense has always been terrible covering)so that Rodgers will be able to get in a comfort zone and not be pressured by the front four of the Vikings. Green Bay's receivers are athletic enough to turn these 5-7 yd. routes into something bigger. Then in the second half, after the Vikings front four has had to take a step back to adjust to the Packers game plan, Rodgers will then have more time to exploit the Vikings secondary downfield.
The real key here is not whether the Vikings defense can control the Packers offense, but whether the Vikings can muster up enough offense of their own to score some points. G.B will obviously key on Peterson, so unless the Vikings can generate something from their passing game (which was non-existent in the pre-season, no matter who was in at QB for the Vikes), this could be a long-frustrating game for the purple. Adding Allen at DE was a great move in the off-season, but unless your entire defense works as a unit togther, it won't make any difference. The Vikings are still very vulnerable in the secondary and a qulity offensive opponent will continue to exploit this. Hasselback in pre-season game #1 virtually did whatever he wanted to do against the Vkings defense in that game, and the Vikings had their full complement of defensive players on the field during that game. For those that will argue that the Vikings haven't been showing their full defensive package yet, well, guess what, neither have the opponent's shown the Vikings their full offensive game plans either.
Good post, but your just way off base.
Leadership, as when Favre was behind center. What has Aaron proved to this point? Comparing Rodgers to Hasselbeck is laughable, and during the first preseason game? You should at least admit that the packers are a little banged up, with Jones out, KGB still recovering from knee surgery, your center has been ailing, AJ(not as good as where he was drafted)Hawk with a chest injury, Grant with scant practice this fall, and the first time you run a new QB in the last 16 years out onto lambeau field.
Aaron quite possibly hasn't faced a defense like this yet in his abbreviated pro career, so we will see when the bullets are live.
Huge Jazz

Chicoutimi, Canada

#12 Sep 6, 2008
There were many years under Denny Green that Favre's Packers were the second best team in the confrence. People make it sound like Favre's Packers were the confrence champ every year he played. They were not.

Favre had his troubles winning in the dome. I suggest Rodgers go out there, lay down on the turf in the middle of the field and get a good idea of what it's going feel like for most of Monday night.
Huge Jazz

Chicoutimi, Canada

#13 Sep 6, 2008
Oops, I meant Lambeau field Monday night. My mistake.

Since: Nov 07

Brooklyn

#14 Sep 6, 2008
Tom Shakopee wrote:
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The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal is the site you should be on moron. This is a site dedicated to the Vikings. Please refrain from disseminating your Packer Garbage.
Site dedicated to the vikings?

Are you retarded? Maybe you mean the Packers.
40for60

United States

#15 Sep 6, 2008
steve_4_51_ wrote:
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Site dedicated to the vikings?
Are you retarded? Maybe you mean the Packers.
You are commenting on a story in the Pioneer Press, which, by the way is in St. Paul, MN.
If you want to comment on stories written by the packer journalists, then yes, you should go to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, or some other packer rag. Just because it shows up on your topix site doesn't mean it's yours. CHECK THE SOURCE OF THE STORY.
40for60

United States

#16 Sep 6, 2008
Somehow, I feel you will have a difficult time understanding plain english, so here's the link.
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_10394113

By the way, didn't you call someone retarded?
eric

Vesper, WI

#17 Sep 6, 2008
40for60 wrote:
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You are commenting on a story in the Pioneer Press, which, by the way is in St. Paul, MN.
If you want to comment on stories written by the packer journalists, then yes, you should go to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, or some other packer rag. Just because it shows up on your topix site doesn't mean it's yours. CHECK THE SOURCE OF THE STORY.
HEY 40 the count down continues!,one hell of a game coming up!
eric

Vesper, WI

#18 Sep 6, 2008
40for60 wrote:
Favre was 'sneaky quick'?
I call it pocket presence, after all those years behind center, Favre had the sixth sense working for him. He could feel the defense around him, and he was uncanny at doing just enough to avoid it. Rodgers might be more nimble at his age, but he doesn't possess the pocket presence that Favre had. I fully expect Rodgers sack numbers to be twice what Brett's were.
IF the Vikes shut down the run like they are able, then they basically have two people to contain. Driver, and Jennings. Without run support, and close tabs on these two, the offensive juggernaut that was the packers will deflate. Rodgers needs to taste the lambeau turf early and often, and once the fans turn on Aaron, the fat lady will be tuning up.
as much as i dont like your post here,its very much on target and correct! Can we say the same for the vikings? if we stop the run,and make TJ throw just contain the Vikes receivers,which as much as the Minn fans dont want to hear it,,,stopping Driver and Jennings will be a very tough thing to do.Rodgers is alot quicker and mobile,very tryue,but lacks expierience that Favre had also very true,so the question is which of the true statements will be more true?
40for60

United States

#19 Sep 6, 2008
eric wrote:
<quoted text>HEY 40 the count down continues!,one hell of a game coming up!
The build up has been languishing Eric. This is what happens when there are only 16 regular season games as opposed to 162 in MLB and 1,556,000 in the NBA every year.
Not much longer, then it will be over in a heartbeat...LOL...
Win or Lose

Waukesha, WI

#20 Sep 6, 2008
It is the beginning of the season, not the end.
Like someone else said, a win does not make them division champs and a loss does not take the division or playoffs away from them.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
VIKES!!!!!!!!!!
I will be there whooping it up for the purple and gold!!!!
40for60

United States

#21 Sep 6, 2008
eric wrote:
<quoted text>as much as i dont like your post here,its very much on target and correct! Can we say the same for the vikings? if we stop the run,and make TJ throw just contain the Vikes receivers,which as much as the Minn fans dont want to hear it,,,stopping Driver and Jennings will be a very tough thing to do.Rodgers is alot quicker and mobile,very tryue,but lacks expierience that Favre had also very true,so the question is which of the true statements will be more true?
We both have question marks at the most important position on the field, who will feel more comfortable? Quick reads, 3 step drops, screen passes, sweeps. This is what I expect from Rodgers. I think Tarvaris will try to go downfield a bit to open things up underneath.
Anyway, it will be a good test for both teams, with the winner taking a big first step of the year.

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