The article says that he was due a $1M signing bonus, that's why he was released, the Browns didn't want to pay him. At 29, I can understand Cleveland's position. St. Clair was NOT due a signing bonus. Simple economics...pay out $1M or don't pay out $1M.Anybody know why the Browns wanted to get rid of this player?
I really want to know what we got.
If he was doing his job well, why would the browns pick up an older player in St.Clair with less experience at tackle and pay him more as well?
This is really too fishy to consider him as the answer for the right tackle position.
#42 Mar 26, 2009
#43 Mar 26, 2009
Uh, no. The Browns wanted Schaffer first, they couldn't resign him or justify giving him a $1M bonus. That's why they went with their SECOND option in St. Clair. If Schaffer had agreed to forgoe the $1M, the Browns would've probably resigned him. He wasn't a castoff, he was a cap casualty. READ AND COMPREHEND...THEN TALK!!
#44 Mar 26, 2009
I love this signing. IF C. Williams comes back healthy and is as good as we need hi to be, slide big Frank back to G, and have Shaffer play RT, KO should have a good enough o-line to make some things happen. But we should also see an even better performance from Forte and Jones.
Now, let's get a WR or two in here to help KO out even more. Let's also get some youth on the defensive side of the ball. I still think Roy Williams would be a good replacement for Mike Brown. We need a big safety that can help out in run support and make some big hits out there. I would like to see Steltz or Payne (preferably Steltz) back there along side Williams.
GO BEARS!!! KEEP IT UP!!!
#45 Mar 26, 2009
I can't say what the Browns' FO was thinking when they signed St. Clair to that contract. But the Browns have been slashing payroll this offseason, as Shaffer was due to get almost $4M this year in a bonus, and base salary. Don't forget that they cut Joe Jurevicius just days before cutting Shaffer. And Jurevicius was due to make more than $2.6M in bonus money and base salary. But both were unwilling to renegotiate their contracts. So take that as you will.
The bulk of the Browns' money is tied to bonuses and guarantees to players such as Derek Anderson, Jamal Lewis, Joe Thomas, and others. They owe up to $30M to those guys. So they had to slash payroll. St. Clair's contract calls for $1.25M in guaranteed money, and $2.85M in the first year of the deal. Apparently that was more than 1/2 of what we offered him, so he bolted. I'm not going to try to understand the logic behind the Browns' contract, as St. Clair isn't good. He's a turnstile. But if the Brownies want to overpay for a mediocre player, by all means, let them. It'll just make our job that much easier when we face them this year.
#46 Mar 26, 2009
Shaffer's roster bonus got him cut, which is the Bears' game. For the people that are saying this is a garbage pickup, please understand that Shaffer is actually a quality offensive lineman. It's hard statwise to see that in a lineman but he's an absolute upgrade over St. Clair. In my opinion it's also an upgrade over the 35? year old John Tait, or however old he is.
What do the Bears do in the draft now?
1 - An additional lineman?
2 - Defensive lineman (another end most likely)
3 - Secondary
4 - Wide Receiver
Im very against a wide receiver in the first round but it probably is the Bears' most glaring need now. So let's go get a wide receiver to add to Angelo's "First Round Bust List".
Or skip that idea and make a serious push for Anquan Boldin, which I still think the Bears should do now before anything else (Cutler included).
#47 Mar 26, 2009
First of all, this is a great signing. I felt ill at the thought of St. False start returning as a starter. Shaffer should bring a mean streak to the line to match Kruetz, and represents a youth movement as well.
The other point is this crap about going after Cutler. Please remember, Cutler has had one good season, and has made the Pro Bowl once, kinda like Derek Anderson. While Culter's stats may be better than Orton's, all that really needs to be examined is the win/loss column. Cutler is 17-20, and Orton is 21-13.
I would much, much rather see the Bears stick with a Quarterback who works hard and takes nothing for granted than a whiny punk who thinks he owns the world after one good season. Is it really worth giving up the world in exchange for a punk who has a losing record and has never even been to the playoffs, much less won a playoff game?
#48 Mar 26, 2009
FOlks.. Wake up..
What does he suppose to say?
Vance are you ok? dude. I have seen articles on Bears signing this signing that or should.. What? happened?
A low tier signing
This proves that Writers are biggest jokes and part of propaganda to make sure Bears sell off their games so that they make living ..
Mackesky and his mom and Ted are $22 million under cap Vance? What happened? They are stealing..
Bears suck and miser. And their karma is the result of 2 championship since 1947
Writers are biggest propaganda since AIG bonus in that Bears are pocketing money and dont want to put pressure.
Bears fans are getting ripped.. Boycott Bears and do not go to t game period.
“Roll The Cameras...”
Since: Feb 09
#49 Mar 26, 2009
This was a good pick up. Shaffer is younger than St Clair. The price was fine. This move frees up drafting possibilities and it adds some depth with experience.
However, I still think Jerry should draft a O-Lineman at some point. A team can never have enough linemen, period.
Teams can't let linemen get old or have no quality replacements. So this position should still be addressed in the draft along with D-line assuming Rod won't make a difference on production.
But now drafting O-line can happen later in the round and not with the 18th pick.
Besides for the most part games are won in the trenches. The other stuff counts and it matters but if a team doesn't win the battle in the trenches usually they lose.
My example of that would be Giants vs Pats in the SB two years ago. Pats had this high powered O-fense and they lost. Brady was under pressure most of the game. Giants O-line gave Eli time and of course there was the catch.
Yet that game would not have been close enough for that catch if the Giants did not win the battle in the trenches.
The same can be said somewhat for the Cards... if they have enough pressure on Big Ben then maybe he would not have be able to make the throw.
That's a big if but my point is pressure and protection changes a lot of things in football. It hides a lot of weakness...
Anyways, good move by the Bears on the signing. Let's hope we can win the battles in the trenches and build up the team from there...
#51 Mar 27, 2009
You are factually correct sir. Don't forget that little TE trade they made with Tampa too.
#53 Apr 9, 2009
Let me tell you what kind of a guy that the Bears are really getting in Kevin Shaffer. Last week, me, my husband and our disabled son were at a health club in Montrose, Ohio. We stopped by to see my sister who works at the front desk and to show our son Kevin some of the workout equipment. When I said my son's name, Kevin Shaffer turned around and said, "hey, that's my name too" and gave our son a high five. He and his friend were checking in so we went over to look at the book fair. Next thing we know, Kevin and his friend came over to invite our son to workout with them. They heard that Kevin used to play football in highschool. Kevin was thrilled but not dressed appropriately so he couldn't work out with them. Tell me, what kind of guy stops to think about someone else in a wheelchair. Not many. It really meant a lot to my husband and I and we were very impressed at his kindness. We just might make a trip to Chicago to watch him play. GO BEARS!!
#54 Apr 10, 2009
Thanks for a great story. We hear too many things about selfish pro athletes, when most are more like Kevin Shaffer. I'm going to root for him and the Bears to go all the way.
#55 Apr 10, 2009
Great story, not enough of this kind of publicity gets out to the public. Thanks!
#56 Apr 10, 2009
It is good to see him go. Trust me, as a Browns fan I can tell all of the Bear fans out there that you will be disapointed. The dude is an ok run blocker but is a horrible pass blocker. There's alot of lineman who only struggle with top notch pass rushers but I've seen this guy get beat over and over by eveybody. He does have a mean streak and can run block but is an overall weak spot. Horrible foot work and mobility. Money wasn't the issue here. If he played better, or even showed the potential he would still be a Brown. Remeber, this is the second position wich he has failed.
#57 Apr 10, 2009
Thats a great story. Character or work ethic was never a problem with this guy. And his teamates liked him. Unfortunatly, keeping your qb upwright means more to NFL teams than character.
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