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No answer for Billick's calls relying so much on receptions -

There are 198 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 12, 2007, titled No answer for Billick's calls relying so much on receptions -. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

In the Brian Billick era, questionable play-calling has cost the Ravens games. Chalk up another one to Billick.

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Daughters Name Is Raven

Edgewater, MD

#182 Sep 12, 2007
Coach.....please don't be stubborn and hurry your retirmenent at the season ticket holders expense.

Next few games are very winnable!
skaybaltimore

Beltsville, MD

#183 Sep 12, 2007
Reactions to the opener:

It was good to finally see McGahee. C'ya don't wanna be ya Jamal. It was good to see Musa Smith run with the explosiveness we haven't seen in a while. I hope he stays healthy this season. And I can't wait to see Mike Anderson, Willis McGahee, and Musa Smith bring it.(Anderson missed the game for personal reasons.) I'm sorry to see BJ gone for the season, but at least the FO had the foresight to sign Figurs. And this also allows us to bring Ross back to the 53 man roster, and Bryant to the PS. McNair looked cooked. Boller looked good but he's still throwing off the back foot and obviously hasn't broken that bad habit yet. D-Will is a beast and a delight to have on the team. O-line, Oh Oh Oh. What can you say. Terry at LT (3 NFL games under his belt); Jason Brown, LG stud; Flynn at center (it's only a matter of time until Chester takes over); Chester RG,(thank you); Marshal Yanda RT (welcome to the NFL). Maybe it wasn't the brightest idea to not re-sign Pashos; maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't the brightest idea to cut Vincent; maybe it was. An awful lot is riding on that O-line, and if it comes together, we can at least be competitive. If not, it's going to be a long, ugly season. Ray was a warrior out there tonight. Major props. JJ -- you've got some huge shoes to fill. Nice sack. Keep it comin. Ed "where ya been" Reed almost gave us the spark to win that sloppy mess of a game.

And that brings us to Head Coach Brian Billick. Or is it Head Case Brian Billick? I'm sorry folks. This isn't just about one game. It's been one endless nightmare on offense ever since this man with the brain too big for his head, and the ego to match, rode into town on his high Viking horse, coming from a team with so many stars on the offense that a high school coach could have directed it to the top of the charts. The FO should have NEVER extended this man's contract after that disgraceful playoff performance against Indy. How in the world can Ozzie Newsome even watch the Ravens offense and not wanna puke? How can ANYONE who loves football sit back and enjoy the insanity that is Brian Billick as offensive designer, play caller and butcher of our offense? It is the laughing stock of the NFL. And has been for years. Listen to annoucners squirm and try to be diplomatic when the talk about the Ravens offense. "Great D. Uh...not very...uh...powerful offense". Call it like it is: IT STINKS. And the stench has only been overshadowed by the promises to fix it year after year. Guess what? The problem is BILLICK. Period. He's been the one constant throughtout every attempt to form it into an NFL offense. It doesn't matter who the designated OC is/was -- it all had to be run through Billick, and therein lies the rub.

Note to Bisciotti: Get rid of this albatross, or kiss your hopes and chances of ever getting another Lombari trophy goodbye. Note to the homer apologist Ravens fans (and to Ron Smith, while we're at it) who can't seem to be able to differentiate between being a true fan who loves his/her team, and some Moonie idol worshipper who can't see the forrest for the trees: the desire to rid this team of Brian Billick is synonomous with excising a demon or cutting out a cancer. Brian Billick has betrayed the trust of millions of Ravens fans, and it is not being disloyal to the team to demand that he be fired. HE'S the one who is disloyal to his own team and Ravens fans by continuing to bungle his way, year in and year out, refusing to give anything other than lip service to his mistakes, and espousing nothing but his rhetorical, over-intellectualized denial, and calling it macaroni. Give this Yankee Doodle Dandee his pink slip and promote Rex Ryan to Head Coach, and let's get this show on the road already! Other than that...

GO RAVENS!!!
skaybaltimore

Beltsville, MD

#184 Sep 12, 2007
Head Coach Brian Billick. Or is it Head Case Brian Billick? I'm sorry folks. This isn't just about one game. It's been one endless nightmare on offense ever since this man with the brain too big for his head, and the ego to match, rode into town on his high Viking horse, coming from a team with so many stars on the offense that a high school coach could have directed it to the top of the charts. The FO should have NEVER extended this man's contract after that disgraceful playoff performance against Indy. How in the world can Ozzie Newsome even watch the Ravens offense and not wanna puke? How can ANYONE who loves football sit back and enjoy the insanity that is Brian Billick as offensive designer, play caller and butcher of our offense? It is the laughing stock of the NFL. And has been for years. Listen to annoucners squirm and try to be diplomatic when the talk about the Ravens offense. "Great D. Uh...not very...uh...powerful offense". Call it like it is: IT STINKS. And the stench has only been overshadowed by the promises to fix it year after year. Guess what? The problem is BILLICK. Period. He's been the one constant throughtout every attempt to form it into an NFL offense. It doesn't matter who the designated OC is/was -- it all had to be run through Billick, and therein lies the rub.

Note to Bisciotti: Get rid of this albatross, or kiss your hopes and chances of ever getting another Lombari trophy goodbye. Note to the homer apologist Ravens fans (and to Ron Smith, while we're at it) who can't seem to be able to differentiate between being a true fan who loves his/her team, and some Moonie idol worshipper who can't see the forrest for the trees: the desire to rid this team of Brian Billick is synonomous with excising a demon or cutting out a cancer. Brian Billick has betrayed the trust of millions of Ravens fans, and it is not being disloyal to the team to demand that he be fired. HE'S the one who is disloyal to his own team and Ravens fans by continuing to bungle his way, year in and year out, refusing to give anything other than lip service to his mistakes, and espousing nothing but his rhetorical, over-intellectualized denial, and calling it macaroni. Give this Yankee Doodle Dandee his pink slip and promote Rex Ryan to Head Coach, and let's get this show on the road already! Other than that...

GO RAVENS!!!
skaybaltimore

Beltsville, MD

#185 Sep 12, 2007
Sorry for the partial dupe. The first post didn't show, so I shortned it, and posted a second one. If there are any mods here, please delete the second post, and this one too. TIA.
Randolph

Charlottesville, VA

#186 Sep 12, 2007
Mike while i agree it was a foolish call, the clear choice was to run the ball. But Mike do you EVER have anything good to say about the Ravens? Frankly you're a broken record, a man who could find gloom and doom in any beautiful spring day. I understand being honest, i understand having an opinion, but Mike its the same thing week after week with you. I think you might be better suited for the obit pages. As for Billick not having a feel for the game, you're clueless! He called a little over half the games last year, with good results. And last WE all check Mike this is the first game of the season. So you've got what Mike perhaps nine games and you're making this statement? How foolish, when we could look at his play calling days from the Vikings and see you have ZERO clue. Sorry Mike but why dont you just move on, Iam sure there is some highschool paper that might need your assessment skills. And while you're at it Mike try find one positive thing in life, clearly that wouldnt be your writing!
Pats RULE

AOL

#187 Sep 13, 2007
Randolph wrote:
Mike while i agree it was a foolish call, the clear choice was to run the ball. But Mike do you EVER have anything good to say about the Ravens? Frankly you're a broken record, a man who could find gloom and doom in any beautiful spring day. I understand being honest, i understand having an opinion, but Mike its the same thing week after week with you. I think you might be better suited for the obit pages. As for Billick not having a feel for the game, you're clueless! He called a little over half the games last year, with good results. And last WE all check Mike this is the first game of the season. So you've got what Mike perhaps nine games and you're making this statement? How foolish, when we could look at his play calling days from the Vikings and see you have ZERO clue. Sorry Mike but why dont you just move on, Iam sure there is some highschool paper that might need your assessment skills. And while you're at it Mike try find one positive thing in life, clearly that wouldnt be your writing!
Cant beat the PATS!!!!! Losers hahahaha
ahmed moiz

Gwynn Oak, MD

#188 Sep 13, 2007
Simply, another lost opportunity to come out with a win. His ego has cost us a championship game in Baltimore last year and possibly the big game at the end. It seems like a long season if he stick with his ego.
Boller has done his job in given situation as good as possible. It's not his fault. Anyway, GO RAVENS GO!!!!
Randy

Elkton, VA

#189 Sep 13, 2007
cesar wrote:
Things could be worse. We could have had Chris Palmer or Tom Coughlin or Nick Saban.
Things could be better, we could have Rex Ryan running the whole show.
Randy

Elkton, VA

#190 Sep 13, 2007
Pats RULE wrote:
<quoted text>Cant beat the PATS!!!!! Losers hahahaha
This from a guy who roots for a team that has to secretly videotape the opposing team's coaches. MLB has Barry Bonds and steroids, the NBA has referees betting on games and now the NFL has the Patriots spying on the opposing team's coaches. And I should also mention that Boston has a baseball team that has won the world series ONCE in 90 years and they think they can make fun of Baltimore. Maybe you should can it before you look REALLY stupid. I'll take a loss with honor long before a tainted victory - maybe your New England Cheatriots can win one without spying on the coaches this week, but, I doubt it.
George Hewes

Ocala, FL

#191 Sep 13, 2007
Mike Preston is right on with his observations. After the Ed Reed punt return put the Ravens ahead, there should never have been another pass play by the Ravens. The Bengals offense had done nothing in the 2nd half to that point. Billick just gave them the game by trying to throw.
Mike

Pleasanton, CA

#192 Sep 13, 2007
I couldn't agree more. Let's also remember that on the third and one play, the Ravens burned a valuable second half time out to consider the call, and that pass is what they came up with. Also, if Boller connects on the pass to McClain, that would have given Carson Palmer more than enough time to win the game in regulation. If they had used two running plays to get to the end zone, it would have wound the clock down to all but assure overtime.
Billick's clock management skills have always been atrocious. Remember the game against those same Bengals here last year, with McNair running around like his hair was on fire to kill the clock instead of kicking the FG? Wow!!!!
dg from towson

Rochester, MI

#193 Sep 13, 2007
There was a very good reason for passing the ball at the end of the game. It's called you don't have any timeouts left, and if you run up the middle and it takes 20-30 seconds to pull the pile apart for each play, certainly the bengals aren't going to help you get to the line quickly, then you run out of chances. By passing, you ensure that if no one is open you can throw it away, regroup, take you time and run another play without concern of running out of time. Let's revisit the scenario: First and goal from the 3 (3:11 remaining) Run, Pass, Run (2:00 minute warning), 4th & goal from the 1. Pass (Touchdown!) What is wrong with that play calling? OK so the ref screwed up the score, 4th and goal from the 11.(who wants to run for it??) Pass (Holding, First down 1:49 remaining) First and goal from the 6. Run,(and 25 seconds off the clock for a 4 yd gain!) Pass, Pass. Game over. I don't have any problems with that play calling. If you remember also, on those last 2 plays, they had 8 or 9 in the box to stop the run. Relax all! It's game 1.
Ned Waxman

Newport News, VA

#194 Sep 13, 2007
Mike,
You wrote an excellent piece. I grew up in Baltimore watching the Colts in the fifties and sixties, and now I live in Newport News, VA (teaching at William and Mary) and am a Ravens' season-ticketholder.
I enjoy your analysis of the Ravens' games and completely agree with your observation that running the ball in certain key situations against the Colts and the Bengals most likely would have changed the outcome. Other commentators have voiced the same opinion.
What I find just as egregious concerning judgment was the decision to risk further injury to Jonathan Ogden instead of waiting for his full recovery before playing in a regular season game. Overall, I like Brian Billick as our head coach, but I view the decision to risk further extensive rahab time for Ogden as an unreasonable risk that will hurt the Ravens' Super Bowl aspirations.
Ned Waxman
Newport News, VA
patrick bramble

Washington, DC

#195 Sep 13, 2007
Mike Preston I somewhat agree with your comment on Billicks play calling. I think the play calling was horrible through out the entire game. I disagree with your comment on Billick's feel for the game, but what Billick lacks is confidence in his offensive line to push the Bengals back four inches so Magahee can run through the line and score.
Billick Apologist

United States

#196 Sep 13, 2007
My issue with Billick and his play calling is more with his philosophy and not the calls themselves. Think about every time he is asked why he chose to pass and not run and his response is usually along the lines of …“ The defense was configured in such a way that they were trying to take the run away from us, so we called for a pass because we thought it gave us the best opportunity for success.” That’s the mentality of a chess player, not a football coach. Being old school, as my kids always remind me, I just don’t buy that line of thinking. When Joe Gibbs ran the counter trey and the defense knew it was coming, they still couldn’t stop it. When the old Cowboys got near the goal line, was there any doubt by anybody in the stadium that Emmitt Smith was getting the ball? Try to stop him. Sometimes you have to call the run, even though they are configured for it because your players can out-execute the opposition. I’ll take McGahee and the Ravens O-line (without Ogden) against the Bengals front 7 all day, any day.

On the series of plays following the make-up holding call after the phantom pass interference call, we had 2nd and goal at the 2 with 1:49 left on the clock. Name one other coach in the NFL who would pass in that situation. You run the ball and if you don’t make it on 2nd down you still have 2 more chances to make it, but best of all; the clock is moving and Carson Palmer maybe doesn’t get the opportunity to beat you with time left on the clock. I heard Billick say on his radio show last night that he called for a pass because the clock was running down and he didn’t have any time outs left and some jibberish about having to call 2 plays in a row. I’m not buying that either. He just doesn’t get it. But you know what? I’m over it, because he performs most of the other aspects of his job extremely well.

What concerns me the most is that the younger offensive linemen might perceive that the coach doesn’t have confidence in them that they can block a running play on the goal line well enough to get McGahee or Smith into the end zone. I hope that I’m wrong about that, but you really never know. How many times have you seen JO storming off the field after 3 straight failed passing attempts.
skaybaltimore

Beltsville, MD

#197 Sep 13, 2007
I hear what you're saying, but the areas in which Billick does not do well consistently undermine the other areas in which he does. And calling offensive plays, clock management, and real time game management are not his strengths. He then compounds that by his arrogant denial that he's not good in those areas. Did you listen to his explanation of why he chose to maintain play calling control after Rick was "promoted" to Offensive Coordinator? "I'm going to continue to call the plays because I really enjoyed it. It brought me closer to the players".

Like the Geico caveman commercial: Yeah, I have a response...uh, WHAT?!! The ONLY reason anyone should do something that is essentially another person's job is if s/he feels s/he can do it better. But because he LIKED IT? That's the sort of mind-numbing statements and behaviors that come from Brian Billick perpetually.

And that, coupled with the fact that for whatever reason, he just does not learn from mistakes, is the reason the same mistakes keep happening over and over again, and why our offense struggles every single year. Whether its from some misguided sense of player loyalty, or his own over-inflated sense of his abilities, or his fear of losing -- the bottom line remains the same: he is an inept game manager; he should NEVER have been allowed to retain authority IN ANY WAY over the offense; and as long as we have him, and as long as he's allowed to run roughshod over this team, this team is going to continue to suffer.

Let him go back to the PR world he came from. He'd be great there. But he is not great here. And he has to go. And if the fans really understand what's going on, they'll be out in force at every opportunity home games with signs, and voices, calling for his termination; talk shows; newspaper editorials; e-mails to the Ravens front office, etc. And don't think that it can't have an impact; look at the New York fans and the New York media. Strong fan reaction can and does have an impact. The worst thing that could happen here is for fans to just take this lying down for yet another year. Enough is enough. In fact, it's been more than enough for quite some time now.
Irish Bull

Washington, DC

#198 Sep 13, 2007
Here it is Thursday and sports writers and fans are upset with this loss Monday night. This was a very horrible opening for this team but to almost pull it out after all the mistakes we made is amazing. That doesn't say much for the Cincinnati Bengals to have seven turnovers given to them, and the game came down to one play from going into overtime. Hey lets not let these sports writers get us down,and let our coaches and players lick there wounds and prepare for our home opener against the N.Y. Jets. GO RAVENS!
Frederick

Chicago, IL

#199 Sep 14, 2007
I agree with your premise here, but next time you get the urge to compare Steve McNair to Michael Jordan, just...I don't know, just don't do it.

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