Bears' victory worth the frustration

Bears' victory worth the frustration

There are 160 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 11, 2008, titled Bears' victory worth the frustration. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

In a move that perfectly summed up Thursday night's thrilling overtime victory over the Saints, Bears quarterback Kyle Orton tried to spike the ball after his 6-yard touchdown plod in the second quarter.

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Number46

Atlanta, GA

#149 Dec 12, 2008
U rex fans don't seem 2 understand what it takes 2 play QB in the NFL. It is much more than a long ball. That is the least important factor in playing in the NFL.
Stephen

Houston, TX

#150 Dec 12, 2008
At this point, I think the Bears have a better chance at the Wild Card than the division title. Basically, Minnesota has a two game lead with 3 to go. The Bears are right there with Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Atlanta. TB and Atlanta play each other, and Dallas has a very tough schedule remaining. I could see the WC going to the Bears and TB. Then we could go to either Minnesota or Arizona for the 1st round.
vocal

Richton Park, IL

#151 Dec 12, 2008
Rex has 33 tds and 35 picks for 6,164 yards in 36 games. Orton has 27 tds and 25 picks for 4,933 yards in 31 games. Whos is better and be honest. Ortons career passer rating is 70.7 and rex has a career passer rating of 70.2. Whos is better people? Come one. They are similar arent they. Who would you take?
bushrags

Chandler, AZ

#152 Dec 12, 2008
Stephen wrote:
At this point, I think the Bears have a better chance at the Wild Card than the division title. Basically, Minnesota has a two game lead with 3 to go. The Bears are right there with Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Atlanta. TB and Atlanta play each other, and Dallas has a very tough schedule remaining. I could see the WC going to the Bears and TB. Then we could go to either Minnesota or Arizona for the 1st round.
Maybe they can keep both options in play....I'll be at the Viking game here in AZ Sunday....rooting against them despite the fact that my Viking fan girlfriend sprung for the tickets!
bushrags

Chandler, AZ

#153 Dec 12, 2008
Very similar....I just think most Rex supporters get frustrated by the way Rex was crucified for the same type of mistakes that Orton makes (tipped balls, fumbles when pressure from behind sneaks up on him, fumbled snaps, untimely interceptions).
vocal wrote:
Rex has 33 tds and 35 picks for 6,164 yards in 36 games. Orton has 27 tds and 25 picks for 4,933 yards in 31 games. Whos is better and be honest. Ortons career passer rating is 70.7 and rex has a career passer rating of 70.2. Whos is better people? Come one. They are similar arent they. Who would you take?
greg from chicago

Chicago, IL

#154 Dec 12, 2008
It's funny... fumbled snaps are finally Kreutz's fault.

If Rex threw the ball that Vilma dropped, he would have been charged with an "imaginagy" interception.

I'm not even a Rex fan, but how long is Orton going to get a free pass? Oh, I forgot about the sprained ankle...
Stephen

Houston, TX

#155 Dec 12, 2008
bushrags wrote:
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Maybe they can keep both options in play....I'll be at the Viking game here in AZ Sunday....rooting against them despite the fact that my Viking fan girlfriend sprung for the tickets!
Thats okay, I'll be here in Houston rooting for the Bears in two weeks. That will be a tough game and they are going to need it.
vocal

Richton Park, IL

#156 Dec 12, 2008
Number46 wrote:
U rex fans don't seem 2 understand what it takes 2 play QB in the NFL. It is much more than a long ball. That is the least important factor in playing in the NFL.
YOU ARE WRONG SIR AND WITHOUT IT YOU WONT LAST LONG
Bill-Denver

Redwood City, CA

#157 Dec 12, 2008
bushrags wrote:
Very similar....I just think most Rex supporters get frustrated by the way Rex was crucified for the same type of mistakes that Orton makes (tipped balls, fumbles when pressure from behind sneaks up on him, fumbled snaps, untimely interceptions).
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Exactly....thank you for getting it.
They are very similar in stats but the treatment has not been. They both have strengths and weaknesses, but a dink and dunk game will not get you in the Superbowl. Defenses know to play tighter with Orton, because there is no real threat of a long ball being on target.
bushrags

Chandler, AZ

#158 Dec 12, 2008
....and even though it was futile, I was delighted to see Hester lay out for that first long ball Orton attempted.
bushrags

Chandler, AZ

#159 Dec 12, 2008
Stephen wrote:
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Thats okay, I'll be here in Houston rooting for the Bears in two weeks. That will be a tough game and they are going to need it.
That will be a battle...Houston is better than their 6-7 record indicates.
vocal

Richton Park, IL

#161 Dec 12, 2008
Rex has 33 tds and 35 picks for 6,164 yards in 36 games. Orton has 27 tds and 25 picks for 4,933 yards in 31 games. Whos is better and be honest. Ortons career passer rating is 70.7 and rex has a career passer rating of 70.2. Whos is better people? Come one. They are similar arent they. Who would you take? SORRY JUST GETTING THE POINT ACROSS!
Josh

New Port Richey, FL

#164 Dec 12, 2008
Minnesota Man wrote:
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I would take Kyle Orton over:
Rex Grossman,
Gus Ferotte,
Tavaris Jackson,
Dan Orlovsky,
Jon Kitna,
Daunte Culpepper - Until he gets back up to speed and wins a game.
Brian Griese,
Carson Palmer,
Carson Palmer's backup,
Tony Romo - Maybe, apparently he's a bit of a wuss this year. But i would take a healthy romo.
Phil Rivers,
Drew Brees - only when playing in Chicago in Decemeber.
Aaron Rodgers - Maybe, It's a toss up for me since he plays for the Pack.
Any QB in the NFC West except for Kurt Warner.
and Tom Brady this year since he tore his ACL.
Maybe some others but I think Kyle is doing a good job for what he has to work with.
Let's face it, the Bears have a lot of talent. They just need to put it all together on a consistent basis.
Great lets make a deal. you can have orton for free. Problem is you are going to sign Rex this year and he will light it up with D squared and AP.
Stratmaster

Memphis, TN

#165 Dec 13, 2008
dils wrote:
I watched Jim Miller on comcast post game say that Orton was 24 of 40 but that could've easily been 30 of 40. And he said the offense was good considering they were playing the Saints. I watched guys on ESPN say that Orton made "great " decisions and this game proved why the Bears chose Orton over Grossman. I thought I was in the freaking twilight zone! Orton threw for 172 yards against the worst secondary in football. He was terrible and now all of a sudden our recivers are the worse in the league? Ok maybe they are but even if Orton is given recievers he can't hit them. He's been in the league 4 years now. He is who he is and that's a check down, inaccurate on deep throws, game managing QB!
This is a common thread. If Orton has a dcent game against a poor defense it shows "why the Bars are starting him". Sadly, I wasn;t able to watch the game Thursday. From the play-by-play it appears he had a mediocre game against a poor defense. The lack of points in the 2nd half tells me the trend was similar to recent games. Mediocre 1st half, poor 2nd half. The bears need to find a real QB, and in the meantime, they need to start the Hanie/Bennet experiment ASAP. Clinging to Kyle based on "playoff embarassment" hopes is silly.
Oregon transpalnt

Salem, MO

#166 Dec 13, 2008
The Bears will win this division as Minnesota faids. The Cowboys experieince end of season wilting and the Redskins are done for the season. Result, Bears have either the wildcard or division option. Manning was great and Hester continues to mature. Orton is that good and the Bears defense is that good. Result playoffs for the Chicago Bears.
Oregon Transplant

Salem, MO

#167 Dec 13, 2008
To all the Chicago fans. Wake up, support your team, support your coach, support your defense, and lets watch the best team in the NFC win. The Bears played well against Carolina, Tanpa Bay, Atlanta, and yes they were in the game against Tennessee. The Bears will continue to put it together with Rex or Kyle. Lets face it, these are our quarterbacks so let them play. Go Bears!!!
Oregon Transplant

Salem, MO

#168 Dec 13, 2008
The schedule does not favor the Cowboys or the Vikings. All Bear fans must watch these remaining games which invplve these two teams carefully. The Bears playoff position is directly connected to the remaining four games which involve these teams as usual. Go Bears!!!!
Steve

Palatine, IL

#170 Dec 14, 2008
Orton does not stretch defenses, I think we can all agree. He has started to look fearful on the short throws. I'd rather see a 45 yard out pattern thrown for an int than a 5 yard crossing pattern.
Marty Hart

Palatine, IL

#171 Dec 14, 2008
Why do you guys give Orton a free ride? He is a below aveage NFL QB that is not capable of an 80 yard drive much less a playoff victory. The whole thing about managing the game is for losers. It is your job to hold that franchises feet to the fire and get them to get a QB that has Super Bowl potential. Let neckbeard back him up if you guys like him so much; but quit letting the Bear brass get away with guys like Orton with his faux confidence; everytime he goes 3 and out he looks at the sidelines to see if Grossman is warming up. The problem is Grossman isn't warming up and we have to watch Neckbeard for another series, another half, another game. Get on those cheap Jerkies at Halas Hall and let's start thinking, writting and acting like winners.
loopy media

United States

#172 Dec 15, 2008
if he puts it all together....... kaboom super bowl a lil seasoning crybbs

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