Bears' victory worth the frustration

Bears' victory worth the frustration

There are 160 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 11, 2008, titled Bears' victory worth the frustration. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

In a move that perfectly summed up Thursday night's thrilling overtime victory over the Saints, Bears quarterback Kyle Orton tried to spike the ball after his 6-yard touchdown plod in the second quarter.

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alex

San Jose, CA

#1 Dec 11, 2008
if our AP gets a ball thrown to him one more time I might go crazy. Does know one remember the wide open drop he had against the Vikings, and then we go to him 2 straight times in a row, although I will say, I think the refs botched that call, he definitely caught that fake punt. Why isn't Kevin Jones running the ball, he's more of a threat than AP. And he was active this game. And don't get me started on rashied "stone hands" davis. Are you telling me that Brandon Rideau and Earl Bennett are that bad? C'mon coaches, get your head out of your a$$
Dean

Villa Park, IL

#2 Dec 11, 2008
Terrible officiating. Chris Collinsworth is a the worst!
Eddie

Glen Ellyn, IL

#3 Dec 11, 2008
Can we stop the freight train that is the Orton extention talk now? Orton is the same as Grossman. I'd love to see the Bears draft a QB the first day and bring him in to COMPETE for the job with whomever the stiff we have is. Orton is not the answer this game proves it let him go after the year and start over....
Justin

Northbrook, IL

#4 Dec 11, 2008
That INT wasnt on Davis, it was a terrible pass by Orton and he didnt do a 360 like Brandon Lloyd can so its clearly his fault. Hey Haugh stop protecting Orton, hes brutal.
J W Chi

Chicago, IL

#5 Dec 11, 2008
All the talk about Hester being a bust at Wide-Receiver can stop now. He is not a top tier Receiver right now but he IS improving every week, he has a good upside. I really rather see him as a receiver than a returner. He has the speed to go deep and be effective. The 2 pass interference penalties he drew were huge for the Bears, they came at good times in the game. He should of had the one in the End zone that was not called. He had a decent game. He is doing well for this really being his 1st full season as a receiver.

The Bears Almost lost this one. The Picks on Orton hurt, the only thing that helped was the defense played a semi-decent game. The opening kick-off that was returned for a touchdown set the tone for the offense in the 1st half. The Defense seemed to get a little lax in the 3 Qtr but found itself again in the 4th Qtr.

Orton seems to be plagued by int again. He seems to be either rushing his throws, making dumb throws or not checking down his receivers.

Forte is the heart of their ground game if the Bears lose him the lose all hope of a balanced attack. He has the start of a great career as a RB for the Bears.
ryan

Hopkins, MN

#6 Dec 11, 2008
alex wrote:
if our AP gets a ball thrown to him one more time I might go crazy. Does know one remember the wide open drop he had against the Vikings, and then we go to him 2 straight times in a row, although I will say, I think the refs botched that call, he definitely caught that fake punt. Why isn't Kevin Jones running the ball, he's more of a threat than AP. And he was active this game. And don't get me started on rashied "stone hands" davis. Are you telling me that Brandon Rideau and Earl Bennett are that bad? C'mon coaches, get your head out of your ****
no, the refs got the call right. as much as i think the rule needs to change he needed to have posession of the ball once he established himself and he was still rolling when it came loose. i think its a stupied rule but they did get it right. i also agree that we need to get all new wideouts. let hester go back to playing back yard ball on kick off cause he cant learn plays on O and run kicks cuz his little brian will blow up and the rest of these chumps need to go. maybe keep lloyd for a 3rd slot. i think if they trade a pick we might be able to pick up bolden or harrison...
J W Chi

Chicago, IL

#7 Dec 11, 2008
Justin wrote:
That INT wasnt on Davis, it was a terrible pass by Orton and he didnt do a 360 like Brandon Lloyd can so its clearly his fault. Hey Haugh stop protecting Orton, hes brutal.
I agree with Justin, Orton is making Rookie mistakes again. He is definatly not thinking, he is just tossing it up and hoping for the best. He thinks that he went 205 passes without an interception so he thinks he can get away with just tossing it up for grabs in the area of his receivers and they'll come down with it.

He does not have receivers that are that good enough that they can come down with circus catches 100% of the time or have 20 foot long arms to catch over thrown balls.

He may have a million dollar arm but he is showing his Hundred Dollar Brain.

I have backed him over Rex from the start but when he S***ws the pooch he deserves to get ripped.

He is a Decent QB when he thinks about what he is doing and does not try to be Super QB. He can manage a game but to come from 2-3 scores behind he might have a very difficult time.
J W Chi

Chicago, IL

#8 Dec 11, 2008
ryan wrote:
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no, the refs got the call right. as much as i think the rule needs to change he needed to have posession of the ball once he established himself and he was still rolling when it came loose. i think its a stupied rule but they did get it right. i also agree that we need to get all new wideouts. let hester go back to playing back yard ball on kick off cause he cant learn plays on O and run kicks cuz his little brian will blow up and the rest of these chumps need to go. maybe keep lloyd for a 3rd slot. i think if they trade a pick we might be able to pick up bolden or harrison...
OK, I ask you this about Hester. What was wrong with the game he had at Receiver today? He had a pretty good game. Were you watching the same game as I was? Even the commentators on the NFL Network said he had a great game. They are usually very brutal about the performance about any player's performance, good or bad. He made some key catches during the game. Some for 1st down and others to gain needed yardage. But then again I guess everyone is never satisfied with everything.

Believe it or not Hester has potential at WR, you may not see it but he has. He had a solid game for basically a Rookie at the position. Many WR come from Special Teams, that is the proving ground that most teams use for unproven talent. Most NFL teams perceive that any player with decent speed or better that can return the ball and exceptional hands can be a serviceable or better WR.

Hester just may turn out to be a workhorse or better, receiver for the Bears. Read my other posts above on Hester. I probably am not the only one that feels that way about his abilities.

Then again everyone has their own opinion.

Go Bears!!
Steve

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Dec 11, 2008
Ryan. 1st the refs didn't get the call right he caught the ball both feet, his, butt, his back, and his head hit the ground when AP had possesion. 2nd if you are going to criticize someones intelligence its critical that you spell BRAIN right
Matt

Denver, CO

#10 Dec 11, 2008
Eddie wrote:
Can we stop the freight train that is the Orton extention talk now? Orton is the same as Grossman. I'd love to see the Bears draft a QB the first day and bring him in to COMPETE for the job with whomever the stiff we have is. Orton is not the answer this game proves it let him go after the year and start over....
You mean the Orton that led us back to win this game? He made one big mistake, but like Haugh said he shouldn't have been throwing in the situation anyway. He should have at least an extra 20 yards on his numbers and 1 less INT if Rashied Davis knew how to catch the ball. Orton played fine, and you could tell his ankle's still hindering him a little bit.
Matt

Denver, CO

#11 Dec 11, 2008
David ya nailed it as usual. The coaching was absymal in this. Awful playcalls with 5 minutes left, stupid fake punt decision, bad clock management at the end(should've used the timeout after Lloyd's catch), etc. Still, a win's a win and we'll take it. The defense played a very good game, especially considering how long they were on the field. That's maybe the best offense in the league.
Mark G

Chicago, IL

#12 Dec 12, 2008
Guys, there's nothing wrong with the coaching. Lovie took us to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at Quarterback. Do you need me to repeat that?? Rex Grossman. When the Bears don't fulfill our hopes, it's on the players. Tonight, they should've won by more. But still--they answered our prayers
mikey t

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Dec 12, 2008
Justin wrote:
That INT wasnt on Davis, it was a terrible pass by Orton and he didnt do a 360 like Brandon Lloyd can so its clearly his fault. Hey Haugh stop protecting Orton, hes brutal.
Wasn't on Davis? Were you watching the same game I was? Seriously.
Creighton

Evanston, IL

#14 Dec 12, 2008
If the Bears play like this against the Pack and the Texans they are gonna get killed. No run game, no passing game, Orton stinks, special teams is the only reason the Bears won, that and two pass interferance penalties by the ref and won of them was a ghost call. Hester 49 yards. The Bears scored 3 points in the second half against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Both teams played like they were trying to give the game away. The Pack and Texas won't play tight like these guys are they will come with nothing to loose.
Arnie

Columbia, SC

#15 Dec 12, 2008
First off from reading most of these posts you would of thought the Bears LOST.... It was a win, a HUGHE win...

We're still in the hunt which makes it more fun to watch the games... We get 10 days to get healthy and Sunday we can root for Arizona,The Giants, Cleveland and Tampa Bay.

It took a while but I think Lovie got it... Rashid Davis wasn't on the field much after another drop.

Oh and Justin NFL receivers catch that ball thats why they call them NFL recievers.
Rich W

Sun Prairie, WI

#16 Dec 12, 2008
Its perhaps wrong to be a bit negative after a win but…

Looking at last nights game I cannot help but think of something I have felt for sometime that the NFL has achieved the goal of parity and with expansion has also diluted the talent pool. The X factor then is coaching.

Last night at half time I called a friend and said I hope you enjoyed the first half because as we speak the Saints coaching staff is making adjustments and Lovie is serving hot chocolate. Yes there are talent needs but the biggest need is a change in management and coaching.

Bring back BEAR football. Get a coach that understands BEAR football. Go BEARS!!1

Since: Oct 08

Dane, WI

#17 Dec 12, 2008
well we all agree some very bad play calling, plus the refs missed some calls on the saints! oh well i'll take the win, and like i said maybe pull off the season like the gaints did
GO BEARS GO
2 more games @ home really helps us
Himself

Canton, IL

#18 Dec 12, 2008
Does everyone not remember how people (probably a lot of people in this forum) were picking the Bears to finish LAST! They have kept our interest til the very end and have a shot at making the playoffs. We've seen the developement of Hester at wideout and we've been blessed with a solid rookie runningback. Mistakes happen.., but we've won more than we've lost.., more than anyone anticpated. Lets finish strong shall we and support OUR Bears!

Go Bears.., GOOD win!!!
Rocket Man

Ithaca, NY

#19 Dec 12, 2008
While it wasn't pretty, I will take a win like this over the three early season blown losses any day. It is really too bad the Bears choked on that Atlanta game. That one will be the one that costs them a playoff position, even though I'm not convinced they are a playoff team. Eleven days before those hunter green and mustard cheeseheads invade soldier field. Hopefully the rest will help and they will find a receiver that can get open and catch the ball. Bench Rasheed Davis immediately or just plain release him. He has been the biggest disappointment of the season, well check that, Nathan Vasher has been the biggest disappointment.

Lastly, what do you think the crowd would have done if Grossman played as poorly as Orton did Sunday night? Orton should have been booed loudly just like Rex when he played poorly. I honestly do not know if his ankle is bothering him or if he has a Good Kyle/Bad Kyle personality too.

At least there is some hope to finish this season in the playoffs. Two tough games but they are all tough at this time of year (unless you are playing Detroit or Cincinnati). Go Bears!
No More Kool Aid 4 You

La Grange Park, IL

#20 Dec 12, 2008
To all the Grossman lovers out there: There is NO WAY he would have won last night's game. He would have fumbled the ball away or thrown an interception instead of getting the team in position for a game-tying field goal in regulation. Grossman had his shot and plenty more.

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