Bears' solution: Reboot camp

Bears' solution: Reboot camp

There are 134 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 17, 2008, titled Bears' solution: Reboot camp. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

If Lovie Smith is serious that this is a brand-new, six-game season, then blow it up, pretend it's Bourbonnais and start all over again.

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JAFO

Chicago, IL

#125 Nov 18, 2008
If it is back to camp then how about some real tackling practice not just two hand touch? This has been horrible all season and last season too.
Can't blame the coaches too much on this one. Players just got outplayed totally. But I do think press coverage at the 4 yard line might be something to consider and be move than 6 inches inside if you plan to take away the slant.
I would like to see the Bears have some receivers that can get separation but the Bears have never really been any good developing and coaching receivers.

“The quo has no status”

Since: Oct 08

Glen Ellyn, IL

#126 Nov 18, 2008
Rich W wrote:
With all the talk of the players and coaches I would like to comment on the message Angelo sent to the locker room when he traded Jones to the Jets. The message my draft choices are more important then the team. Jones was productive and respected in the locker room Benson was neither. I saw the same thing with Grossman, there would be no one to challenge him, it is Grossman or no one. We do not want someone like Warner on our team. I also think that the players sent a message to us fans by naming Orton a captain; the players know who they want to go to war with.
The message again is for the fans as well, winning and losing is not as important as Angelo and his draft choices.
It's said that to be a successful leader, your underlings have to buy-into your philosophy. Lovie and his staff have definitely bought into Angelo's. Lovie also sent a message to the fans: His BFF Babich is more important to him than winning. Lovie is also #2 among active players as the coach they would most like to play for. So would I. All he would ask of you is to throw on a uniform, give a half-hearted effort, and he'll defend your actions without repercussions until death!
george

Little Rock, AR

#128 Nov 18, 2008
I agree about that depth chart stuff get some Marcus Harrison and bench vasher.
The Voice of Reason

Louisville, KY

#129 Nov 18, 2008
isreal idoniji at DE actually sounds like a legitimate idea to a) put pressure on the ends to get their game going, and b) get a another play maker on the feild who can get to the quarterback or at least knock down balls
emBEARassed

AOL

#130 Nov 18, 2008
maybe a better idea would be to shut the season down right now, just forfeit the rest so as not to suffer anymore humiliating blowouts, which surely are still coming the Bears way. Then let's all go watch the Blackhawks, they work hard, get results, and don't have rabbit ears to the media when they ask simple "what happened" questions.
Philo

Palmetto, FL

#131 Nov 18, 2008
Arnie wrote:
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He gets a free pass because he shouldn't have even been out there. If Grossman was playing at Orton level and he played with an injury like Orton's he would be given a pass.
Again one must ask, if he shouldn't have been out there, why did he put himself before the team and play? It was him claiming he was almost all better for the Titans game. Now he's still too injured to have played a week after that?
Philo

Palmetto, FL

#132 Nov 18, 2008
No Way Cade wrote:
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WRONG! No way! Orton won 9 games as a rookie and the Bears went to the playoffs! Cade was terrible.
His rookie year he only played the third offensive series of the game. Remember that great piece of football strategy foisted upon us by Jauron?
Jauron: "Cade makes plays." What a joke of a QB and a coach.
The W/L record of a QB is not worth crap if the QB isn't the reason the Bears won (and, btw, the Bears won 10 games while Orton was the QB in '05). The 2nd best D in the NFL in history is the reason the Bears won in '05

McNown's averages with a worse defense (29th in the NFL)and a worse running game (26th in the NFL) were better than Orton's averages in '05. Those are just facts.

In his 4th start he threw 4 TD's (something Orton still hasn't done) and for 301 yards (Something it took Orton 20+ starts to do)
Steve

Grayslake, IL

#133 Nov 18, 2008
I think the emphasis has been too strong on going for the ball and creating turnovers to the point that the defense has forgotten the basic fundamentals of tackling. It's a "live by the sword, die by the sword" situation on defense which is now catching up on them.
Albert In Tucson

Tucson, AZ

#134 Nov 19, 2008
"Maybe the Bears still were outschemed by the Packers offense."??? David, David, David. Haven't you been paying attention? Didn't you hear Lovie's proclaimation last week? "Our scheme is good". Yes, Nick Roach over Hunter Hillenmeyer. Yet ANOTHER of Lovie's seemingly endless supply of capricious personnel or staffing decisions.
RWR

Saint Louis, MO

#135 Nov 19, 2008
More changes on defense. Glad to see D-Coordinator decided to get rid of the ridiculous I am blitzing here come block me alignment. Now let's not blame the d-tackles for coming up high, it's kinda hard to get into a rythm when you rotate them every two plays. Keep the d-tackles in until they look like they are slowing down before you replace them. I promise you will see much more pressure from the d-line when that happens. Bring in the rookie and put him at FS. Remember when Mark Carrier was a rookie and had all of those interceptions. I think this kid has the same ability if not more. And please, please either move Mark Anderson to tight end or keep him on the bench. D-coordinator, read up on zone blitzes, they really work!!

Peace
Dude Walker

Schaumburg, IL

#136 Nov 19, 2008
Babitch *is* the problem. His adjustments do not work since he is way over matched in terms of NFL defensive coordination. He is an unproven simpleton.

The defense unit already knows this and that is why they have quit on him.

Wait until St.L pass offense scorches the D. The only hope for Sun is the offense can score more points on the pathetic Ram defense. I would not be surprised if the Bears lose to the lowly Rams
RamRod

Saint Paul, MN

#137 Nov 20, 2008
You know? We're rumanating about this, that, and another thing, being the problem. Suddenly strikes me that something really big needs to happen to shake things up. A new coaching staff isn't going to suddenly "coach" or "instruct" players into a better team. However, it would send notice that no matter what your contract situation or seniority, if you aren't contributing to a winning effort, you're history.
I can see the argument from a hundred different views and realize that just addressing any one of them isn't going to change the long term direction of this team. The direction isn't good.
Slickster

Miami, FL

#138 Nov 20, 2008
RamRod wrote:
You know? We're rumanating about this, that, and another thing, being the problem. Suddenly strikes me that something really big needs to happen to shake things up. A new coaching staff isn't going to suddenly "coach" or "instruct" players into a better team. However, it would send notice that no matter what your contract situation or seniority, if you aren't contributing to a winning effort, you're history.
I can see the argument from a hundred different views and realize that just addressing any one of them isn't going to change the long term direction of this team. The direction isn't good.
The symptoms we are now seeing show a lack on interest and respect for the coaching staff.

Interestingly, the same thing was going on in San Francisco, until they dumped a coach that wasn't getting it done and put someone in charge that; knows the game, demands top effort and leads by example. Winning or losing, this team is putting out everything they have.

Worst part is; Chicago should have that coach.
RamRod

Saint Paul, MN

#139 Nov 20, 2008
Slickster wrote:
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The symptoms we are now seeing show a lack on interest and respect for the coaching staff.
Interestingly, the same thing was going on in San Francisco, until they dumped a coach that wasn't getting it done and put someone in charge that; knows the game, demands top effort and leads by example. Winning or losing, this team is putting out everything they have.
Worst part is; Chicago should have that coach.
I'm not shooting you down (we're both on the same side), but, that kind of coaching, while it would resonate with Chicago fans, won't get this team moving. We know Mike, all too well and appreciate his time as a player. Coaching? I don't know.

The deal is that you can take any team, with the lowest talent level in the current NFL, and make them winners. The trick is to make the players, uniformly, believe that they can win and are winners. At this point, Lovie can't do that with this team. Somewhere else, maybe. All that Lovie can do now is to discipline a large part of the team. One of the coordinators, would be considered a large part of the team, for this purpose. Otherwise, players en masse, would need to be benched, for a game, and told that with another poor showing by any ONE of them, the BUNCH would become second string. It would mean the loss of a season, but the start of another season's winning attitude. Trust me.

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