'D' flopping in 4th quarter

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How does a Bears defense that helped its team go 26-1 when leading after three quarters during the three seasons Ron Rivera was defensive coordinator explain blowing fourth-quarter leads in five of the past six ...

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MR KENNEDY

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#1
Sep 25, 2008
 
Nothing left in tank.This team is not in game shape now or last year.
Ann Arbor John

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Sep 25, 2008
 
Why do people still care about what Mike Ditka would do? Remember - you and I won only one less Super Bowl than that loudmouth. And don't say it was the McCaskey's fault - he was a miserable failure in New Orleans, too...
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#3
Sep 25, 2008
 
Peyton Manning is the 2nd best QB in the league when healthy, Tom Brady has the rings to prove it. You all need to get past the Tillman penalty. If you've seen the play from start to finish, you'd see he was flagged for something Tampa should have been flagged for. Yes, it was stupid, but at least it was in the spirit of backing up a teammate that had just received a cheap shot. Davis dropping the ball that was perfectly thrown, that was a stupid, bonehead play. Robbie missing that field goal, that was a bonehead chokejob. Bad teams lose close games. Really bad teams blow double digit leads in the 4th quarter to lose. If the Bears can't pull themselves up from the gutter and win against Philly somehow this weekend, the avalanche will ensue, season done, period. We, the fans, will be left with the bill at the table yet again for a piss poor, unsatisfying meal.
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#4
Sep 25, 2008
 
ANN ARBOR JOHN WROTE...
Why do people still care about what Mike Ditka would do? Remember - you and I won only one less Super Bowl than that loudmouth. And don't say it was the McCaskey's fault - he was a miserable failure in New Orleans, too...
MY reply...
Mike ditka has Won the Super Bowl as a Player, Head Coach and Asst. Coach.
I think he has MORE than enough experience to speak on any aspect of Professional football.
I reiteratre "Professional football," Seeing that you are in Detroit where "Professional" and "football" haven't went hand and hand since Night Train Lane played in the motor city.

Since: Sep 08

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#5
Sep 25, 2008
 
David, your right on everything in this column. Sunday night is going to be real ugly and painful to watch.
sam

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Sep 26, 2008
 
you say pulling Orton at this point will impede his developement yet the team is 1 and 2 with him.last year Grossman was pulled after the third game with the team having the same record and in that game defense played horrible,Cedric Benson didn't do a thing and Bernard Berrian dropped some key passes early in the game that could have changed the outcome I am of cource talking about that Dallas game,and so Grossman was used as the fall guy and this is after he had taken his team to super bowl the previous season don't you think that impeded Grossman's development?you went on the record several times last year saying Orton is not as good a QB as Grossman.do you really believe Grossman has got a fair shake in Chicago?
SOUTHSIDETOMMY

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Sep 26, 2008
 
The no huddle offense that griese ran in the second half did the bears in they were not in good enough shape to stay in the game with tampa At the end of the game did you see #93 of the bears go down with a injury to stop the clock. His injury was that he was tired and out of breath like the rest of the defense. Which team gets to choose jersey color? we should have been in white or orange not navy blue This along with poor coaching adjustments in the second half beat us
SOUTHSIDETOMMY

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Sep 26, 2008
 
Ann Arbor John wrote:
Why do people still care about what Mike Ditka would do? Remember - you and I won only one less Super Bowl than that loudmouth. And don't say it was the McCaskey's fault - he was a miserable failure in New Orleans, too...
Hey John being from michigan... does that make you an expert on miserable failures?
val

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#9
Sep 26, 2008
 
You hit it on the nose finally. Babich is a joke. This is exactly what my friends and I have been talking about since last year.
Last year's excuse was injuries. What is the excuse this year...slow start?
Keep the pressure up. He is the reason why the Bears defense is doing well....or is it just Lovie pulling the strings well with Babich and couldn't pull strings with Rivera.
No matter, if the Bears stink up the season, we will be saying by, by to Lovie, Babich, Turner and can't forget Angelo for his great draft picks.
Their exit will be an immediate improvement for this club even if Bozo becomes the coach. Scratch that. Bozo is already running the show. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...how about Gonzo the monkey? He surely couldn't do any worse.
val

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Sep 26, 2008
 
Hey Ann Arbor John of Michigan.
You have enough problems of your own with your Lions to have any time to worry about ours.
The fact that Lovie is faceless and emotionless (akin to being dead) and to compare to a previous winning coach that actually got the job done is too far fetched. I'd take Ditka over Lovie any day. And when we show Lovie the exit door at the end of the season, you are welcome to him. The lions will love him. By the way, you can take Babich, Turner, and Angelo as well. And lets not forget REX. You can have him too.
Irish Bears Fan

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Sep 26, 2008
 
Ann Arbor John wrote:
Why do people still care about what Mike Ditka would do? Remember - you and I won only one less Super Bowl than that loudmouth. And don't say it was the McCaskey's fault - he was a miserable failure in New Orleans, too...
My God. Whatever problem or opinion you have about the current Bears team, so be it. But don't darken Mike Ditka's name. Superbowl. Enough said.
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#12
Sep 26, 2008
 
I'm thinking about getting a real life. Knowing my track record as a die hard, every Sunday, every play Bears fan, that should scare the heck out of Bears management. If they lose me as a fan, they can lose anybody.
George

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Sep 26, 2008
 
sam wrote:
you say pulling Orton at this point will impede his developement yet the team is 1 and 2 with him.last year Grossman was pulled after the third game with the team having the same record and in that game defense played horrible,Cedric Benson didn't do a thing and Bernard Berrian dropped some key passes early in the game that could have changed the outcome I am of cource talking about that Dallas game,and so Grossman was used as the fall guy and this is after he had taken his team to super bowl the previous season don't you think that impeded Grossman's development?you went on the record several times last year saying Orton is not as good a QB as Grossman.do you really believe Grossman has got a fair shake in Chicago?
I think Rex has had more than a fair shake in Chicago. Rex was lucky to be the QB at the time when we went to the Superbowl. None of you can say if Orton was our starting QB we wouldn't have gone just like I can't say it vice versa. The point is, Rex has had several seasons to show what he can do. And his first few seasons he spent them on the sideline injured. That's nobody's fault but his own. And the one season Orton goes 10-6 as a starter they pull him out and put Rex in. Was that fair? Why doesn't anyone bring that up? Basically the guy has a fair run, period. It's Orton's turn to have a FULL season without worry of being pulled whether he does good or not.
But I will say one thing. If the Orton experiment doesn't work by November, them MAYBE we should start Hanie and look to draft a QB high in the draft.
On another note, it's time people let go of the Tillman penalty. It's water under the bridge now. Let it go.
And Tommie needs spend less time talking to the media and more time either on the field or rehabbing that knee because he's going to have to show up on Sunday.

GO BEARS!!!
Arnie

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Sep 26, 2008
 
sam wrote:
you say pulling Orton at this point will impede his developement yet the team is 1 and 2 with him.last year Grossman was pulled after the third game with the team having the same record and in that game defense played horrible,Cedric Benson didn't do a thing and Bernard Berrian dropped some key passes early in the game that could have changed the outcome I am of cource talking about that Dallas game,and so Grossman was used as the fall guy and this is after he had taken his team to super bowl the previous season don't you think that impeded Grossman's development?you went on the record several times last year saying Orton is not as good a QB as Grossman.do you really believe Grossman has got a fair shake in Chicago?
Please stop with the Grossman stuff. Orton is making progress... He learns from his mistakes... He's getting better... Grossman doen't learn from his mistakes... He wasn't getting better..
His main problem is he can not handle the pressure given to him by NFL compitition. He has no pocket presence what so ever. Given no pocket pressure I'd choose Grossman Given pocket pressure I'd take Orton every time. So if you want to play flag football Grossman is your guy but in the NFL you need Orton in their.
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#15
Sep 26, 2008
 
If anybody is a "True Die Hard" fan jumping ship and not rooting for the Bears is never...NEVER an option that should cross ones mind!!!!!!! Real Die hards stick with it through good times and bad. During bad times is when a fan will show their true colors. The Bears have a tradition that is second to none not just in football but all sports and we do not need the fair weather fans. Everything will be OK!!!!!! BEAR DOWN!!!!!!
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#16
Sep 26, 2008
 
Excuses go with what?......LOSERS.
pro sports is about winning. Something this Bears teams knows very little about.
George

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Sep 26, 2008
 
Neil wrote:
If anybody is a "True Die Hard" fan jumping ship and not rooting for the Bears is never...NEVER an option that should cross ones mind!!!!!!! Real Die hards stick with it through good times and bad. During bad times is when a fan will show their true colors. The Bears have a tradition that is second to none not just in football but all sports and we do not need the fair weather fans. Everything will be OK!!!!!! BEAR DOWN!!!!!!
Totally agree. I've been preaching it for a while now. But people think people like us are crazy. SMH (~_~)
We don't any bandwagon fans that's only going to root for us when we're doing good. SO if you're going to jump, stay off.

GO BEARS!!!
Jim Griffin

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#18
Sep 26, 2008
 
It's simple actually, Ron Rivera is a BEAR, a CHAMPION, and a COACH. Babich is merely a coach and that by title more than deed. Lovie let Rivera go. Lovie doesn't understand what it means to BE a Bear.
ron

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#19
Sep 26, 2008
 
it's obvious that defense coach baboon don't have a clue what he's doin,fire him and smith and bring back chico rivera as head coach
Bear Down

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#20
Sep 26, 2008
 
Any one who says it was Rex Grossman's fault because he was injured has no idea what they are talking about. How is it any players fault if they rip up a knee or break an ankle which is what happened to him. Going into 2006 Grossman had started 7 regular season football games for the Bears. That is hardly enough games to judge anybody on. In 06 his first full season as a starter they went to the Superbowl. Yes he played bad at times but he also played good at times which people seem to forget(Offensive Player of the month in Sept 06....How many of those does Kyle Orton have????). Ups and downs is what you are going to have to go through in developing a young QB. Kyle Orton did not go 10-6 as a starter his first full season because he got benched in game 14 at half time against Atlanta because of his poor performance and who can ever forget the standing ovation Rex Grossman got in that game when he came out to start the second half. If you think 32 games(2 seasons) which is how many Grossman has started for the Bears is enough to judge a player on than so be it. I believe in a players third season as a starter he should be getting it but obviously Grossman is never going to get that chance. People can debate forever if Grossman got a fair shake or not but to say it was his fault because he got hurt is a stupid thing to say. I like Rex Grossman because he plays for the Bears and I also like Kyle Orton and wish him nothing but the best. I just hope the fans will at least give Orton a chance to develop. Let's not forget this is just Orton's second year as a starter and lets not treat him like Grossman got treated in his first full season as a starter. Let's let Orton develop into a QB I think he can be. Lets give him the chance we never gave Rex Grossman!!!!!

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