Eye on his future

Eye on his future

There are 16 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jan 29, 2008, titled Eye on his future. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Excited about the present, Rex Ryan is keeping his options open on his future. The Ravens introduced Ryan as the team's assistant head coach and defensive coordinator yesterday, ending speculation Ryan might ...

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The cRYan game

Washington, DC

#1 Jan 29, 2008
Don't get me wrong Rex is a great coach, but since we were cleaning house we should have bid him farewell. Bart Scott credits him from going undrafted to the Pro Bowl, does he also credit him for the teams multiple meltdowns on "D" last season, the throwing of the Refs flag into the stand? The fear is that the older players would default to Rex instead of the HC if things start out sour next year (say a 2 and 6 start). Oh and don't forget he's the moron that called the timeout against NE (I know, just a minor offense). Anyway I hope he works out for the team, I know I am looking forward to our new offensive scheme (it HAS to be better than the past 9 years) so maybe that'll cut the "D" some slack and they can play better (hence rest some during the game). GO RAVENS

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#2 Jan 29, 2008
I think it's ironic that almost simultaneously with his re-hiring, Ryan's talking about moving on. I could be wrong, since I'm obviously not in on the HC interviews that Rex has had, but maybe this is exactly the sort of "honesty" that keeps getting him rejected as a HC candidate. The only thing I really want to hear coming out of Rex's mouth is what he plans to do about the discipline problems on D, and what he plans to do to get his defense prepared for QBs like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Carson Palmer, so that we're no longer susceptible to teams that run no-huddle offenses against us. He can talk about his head coaching aspirations once he's the HC of some other team.
Rich

United States

#3 Jan 29, 2008
The Ravens go from not having a head coach to having 3. One says he is going to be, one has been, and the other is new to the head coaching game. Cool ! It's good to have a proven Rex back so the Ravens can focus on the offense which we have never had. I was tough on Oz and Bisciotti but quite frankly under tough circumstances and with some luck it appears that they have done a top job. Good because we expect no less. Come on July - there is excitement in the air.
dyno don

Houston, TX

#4 Jan 29, 2008
So far, so good. But the key to success next year and beyond is the coming draft and free agency period. We MUST get good players BEYOND round 1. This team needs a lot of help, both starters (a few) and solid backups (several).
1ravensfan

AOL

#5 Jan 29, 2008
ANYBODY WHO SEES REX RYAN BEING RETAINED AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A HOME RUN HAS TO BE RETARDED. WE HAVE BEEN SO SPOILED ALL OF THESE YEARS WITH A GREAT DEFENSE THAT WE TAKE SHOTS AT EVERY MISTAKE THAT IS MADE SUCH AS THE TIME OUT CALLED LAST YEAR.....SHUT UP!!! HAD WE WON THAT GAME WE STILL WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE PLAYOFFS DUMMIES. IN 2006 WE WERE 13-3...AND THE DEFENSE WAS RANKED #1....WHY....BECAUSE THE OFFENSE ENABLED THE DEFENSE TO REST AND BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!!! IT HAS ALEAYS BEEN THE OFFENSE!!!! THE TURNOVERS LAST YEAR KILLED THE RAVENS!!!! THE TEAM DEFENSE NEEDING DISCIPLINE IS A RESULT OF FRUSTRATION STUPID...OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS DUMMY. REMEMBER THE CHICAGO BEARS AND URLACHER....OVER RATED THEY SUCK NOW. URLACHER HAD THE NERVE TO WIN DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AT ONE TIME....HE IS NO RAY LEWIS!!!! WE NEED TO STOP CRYING ABOUT THE LACK OF DEFENSIVE DISCIPLINE AND PRAY FOR SOME OFFENSE AND ALL WILL BE GOOD!!! WE PLAYED WITHOUT BOTH STARTING CORNERS FOR A STRETCH...I BET EVERYONE NOW SEES HOW VALUABLE MCALISTER IS TO THIS TEAM. HARBAUGH WILL DO FINE BECAUSE OF HIS ENERGY AND HE ALREADY PROVED TO BE INTELLIGENT....BY BRINGING BACK THE BEST D COORDINATOR IN THE GAME....OFFENSE STEP UP!!!!!
Vool Vool

Carrboro, NC

#6 Jan 29, 2008
Agree with 1RAVENFAN!!! You dummies probably ain't watching the Ravens Offense!! Our offense SUCKS @ss!! Defense can't do everything. If I was a defensive player in the Ravens organization, I would have thrown the damn glag as well. Our defense plays too damn much whereas the offense rests pretty much for 3 quarters. Buddy Ryan is Rex's dad so go figure!! and if you know buddy, good job buddy!! LOL, THIS TEAM NEEDS A HUG ON OFFENSE AND I THINK CAM CAMERON WILL PROVIDE THAT!!

GOD WILLING
ny raven

West Babylon, NY

#7 Jan 29, 2008
i think that this the best choice the ravens could of made bring back rex. know only cam mike can jet are of to where it needs to be i think we will be in the run next year.

lets go RAVEN
Adam

Waldorf, MD

#8 Jan 29, 2008
I like that they are briging him back as DC but I am a weary of them naming him assistant HC. With Ray and crew on defense they will just simply go to Rex to try to overrule anything Harbaugh says. It should be a bad situation.
HeWhoCaannotBeNa med

Völklingen, Germany

#9 Jan 29, 2008
We now have TWO proven coordinators. There are just some people who dont know a good thing when they see it. Some people just take it all so personal. Grow up. We got things coming.
rc walker

AOL

#10 Jan 29, 2008
Ravens should have went in another direction. defense is good at times but the "bend dont break" is for the birds. it si a "helter skelter" defense in that you never know what you are getting...
murph

Boca Raton, FL

#11 Jan 29, 2008
Ryan has got to understand that the real reason he is not a head coach is because of the lack of discipline his players show on the field. Ravens have the most penalties for unsportsmanlike conduct-etc. The papers in Atlantic were relieved when he was not name there- because of that fact. If he wants a head coach job- owners want a coach who will take control and not let the inmates run the ship.
Greg

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Jan 29, 2008
I agree wholly with murph. Mr Ryan is a great coach, but to become an excellent head coach he has to get control of the players, make them play as a team, and be disciplined. There were several times last season when the Ravens' defense let teams back into the game with dumb penalties.
Phil

Baltimore, MD

#13 Jan 30, 2008
Ryan is not a big-picture visionary; instead, he is a technician who feels that should be enough to qualify him for a HC position. He is too focused on himself, and displays this through his cockiness in the interviews. He thinks he is showing his knowledge and confidence, while he really is demonstrating his ignorance. Owners want the big plan, not the "accomplishments" you have made at a micro level.

This defense has "succeeded" under 3 different DC's because of the players, not the system ; hence, why all the systems have appeared to work. Increasingly, Rex is proclaiming that all he cares about is a head coach position, and he will make decisions which may focus on improving his head coach chances at the expense of the team. One of these could be winning the support of his defense, when this could be detrimental to the overall plan of the new HC.

Think about it, everyone on this Board who has a job. What would you think of a person you rehired for a position, and the first thing they are publicly talking about is how they want a promotion with another company? Now, anyone in management with a brain, would you justify this public proclamation by saying you admire the person's ambition, or could you see the potential for massive disruption?

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#14 Jan 30, 2008
Phil wrote:
Ryan is not a big-picture visionary; instead, he is a technician who feels that should be enough to qualify him for a HC position. He is too focused on himself, and displays this through his cockiness in the interviews. He thinks he is showing his knowledge and confidence, while he really is demonstrating his ignorance. Owners want the big plan, not the "accomplishments" you have made at a micro level.
This defense has "succeeded" under 3 different DC's because of the players, not the system ; hence, why all the systems have appeared to work. Increasingly, Rex is proclaiming that all he cares about is a head coach position, and he will make decisions which may focus on improving his head coach chances at the expense of the team. One of these could be winning the support of his defense, when this could be detrimental to the overall plan of the new HC.
Think about it, everyone on this Board who has a job. What would you think of a person you rehired for a position, and the first thing they are publicly talking about is how they want a promotion with another company? Now, anyone in management with a brain, would you justify this public proclamation by saying you admire the person's ambition, or could you see the potential for massive disruption?
Massive disruption. What I think the FO is doing is taking a big gamble. They weren't prepared to make a full housecleaning. They were not ready to cut Ray loose, or C-Mac, or Ed Reed. Nor did they necessarily have to. But they DID have to come up with some sort of buffer. And I think they're banking that Rex will be that buffer. Obviously, it could blow up in their face. But if they can convince Rex he's getting his cake and eating it too (ASSISTANT Head Coach (BFD) and a raise, even though he didn't earn or deserve it), maybe he can bring "his guys" on board enough to make this ship float for a year or two. Then it's bye bye Rex, Ray, and who knows who else.

It's kind of like making a deal with the devil. But this way, they can possibly remain more competitive than they would have been with a total rebuild. It's like a leaky radiator. If the quick fix holds, you saved yourself a couple grand. But if it blows, you might end up paying a lot more in the end. Time will tell.
Phil

Baltimore, MD

#15 Jan 30, 2008
skaybaltimore wrote:
<quoted text>Massive disruption. What I think the FO is doing is taking a big gamble. They weren't prepared to make a full housecleaning. They were not ready to cut Ray loose, or C-Mac, or Ed Reed. Nor did they necessarily have to. But they DID have to come up with some sort of buffer. And I think they're banking that Rex will be that buffer. Obviously, it could blow up in their face. But if they can convince Rex he's getting his cake and eating it too (ASSISTANT Head Coach (BFD) and a raise, even though he didn't earn or deserve it), maybe he can bring "his guys" on board enough to make this ship float for a year or two. Then it's bye bye Rex, Ray, and who knows who else.
It's kind of like making a deal with the devil. But this way, they can possibly remain more competitive than they would have been with a total rebuild. It's like a leaky radiator. If the quick fix holds, you saved yourself a couple grand. But if it blows, you might end up paying a lot more in the end. Time will tell.
Good points. Bisciotti probably analyzed the potential downside of rehiring Ryan, knowing the coaching search for Ryan begins anew after next season. However, as you stated, we get another year under the same defensive scheme, with minimal turnover. If Ryan tosses out another undisciplined team or unsettles the overall team unity, he will be "encouraged" to seek employment elsewhere, and we can then bring in another DC at the same time we get fresh eager players who can fit it with a rebuilding scheme (and the player purges will come).

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#16 Jan 31, 2008
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
Good points. Bisciotti probably analyzed the potential downside of rehiring Ryan, knowing the coaching search for Ryan begins anew after next season. However, as you stated, we get another year under the same defensive scheme, with minimal turnover. If Ryan tosses out another undisciplined team or unsettles the overall team unity, he will be "encouraged" to seek employment elsewhere, and we can then bring in another DC at the same time we get fresh eager players who can fit it with a rebuilding scheme (and the player purges will come).
To me, it all hinges on whether or not Ryan can figure out how to deal with no-huddle offenses. To date, he has not. And I think even without no-huddle offenses, teams have figured out how to beat Ryan in the secondary. They aren't necessarily going to beat Ryan in the running game, but any time QBs can either take their 3 step drops and get rid of the ball quickly, or have their O-lines hold long enough to burn our secondary deep, we're at least potentially in trouble, especially over the middle. And if Pryce doesn't return and/or return to form, and we continue to struggle to generate a decent pass rush, we're definitely in trouble with Ryan's past schemes. I was disappointed in him this year because it seemed as if he didn't adjust to the change in personnel due to injuries as much as other DCs (Spagnuolo, for example) did. Time will tell.

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