Ravens need to start thinking young

Ravens need to start thinking young

There are 18 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Nov 26, 2007, titled Ravens need to start thinking young. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

About a week ago, Ravens coach Brian Billick was saying all the right things. He still talked about the playoffs and having enough confidence to win the remaining six games.

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Rob

Las Vegas, NV

#1 Nov 26, 2007
The most intelligent well written article Ive seen from the sun...finally some one willing to look forward and embrace change as opposed to doing the same unsuccessfull things with the same unsuccessfull players..to bad the coach is stagnant and delusional...He would do well to heed your advice... his job may well be on the line because of his refusal or inability to be an innovator and maximize his resources.
Steve

Mechanicsville, MD

#2 Nov 26, 2007
It is not often I agree with you, Mike. But this time I totally agree with you. Good points!
Mike Brown

Stevensville, MD

#3 Nov 26, 2007
I agree with much of your thinking. But we both know that Billick will stick with the vet's to try and achieve the best possible season record. It's an ego thing.

This team will have a number of personel issues to deal with during the off season, better to get a little more knowledge about some of these players now, than to take a guess going into next year.
ravenrick58

Enola, PA

#4 Nov 26, 2007
Mike Brown wrote:
I agree with much of your thinking. But we both know that Billick will stick with the vet's to try and achieve the best possible season record. It's an ego thing.
This team will have a number of personel issues to deal with during the off season, better to get a little more knowledge about some of these players now, than to take a guess going into next year.
The best possible record is 5-11 if we get lucky and beat Miami on the road. I don't think we will miss much playing the kids.
Cornell

Baltimore, MD

#5 Nov 26, 2007
Rob wrote:
The most intelligent well written article Ive seen from the sun...finally some one willing to look forward and embrace change as opposed to doing the same unsuccessfull things with the same unsuccessfull players..to bad the coach is stagnant and delusional...He would do well to heed your advice... his job may well be on the line because of his refusal or inability to be an innovator and maximize his resources.
If Billick thinks about it, this would be a prime opportunity to assess the winners and losers of the roster. There is no ego when your losing, only eggo's. please let go of our's. The best case scenario is to rest who you know has produced, cut the dead wood and build a new house. The future will be alot brighter when Billick realizes that the time is now. Start to rebuild with a healthy squad next year. Do your college draft homework. Give the ball to everyone other than the same one's. Try, even if it doesn't to succeed. If you start next week the patriot's may not know how to scheme your program. It's a great time to eveluate the youngn's. See if they can follow your playbook, can they stay healthy, physical, intuitive and hungry for a spot on the roster. Remember B. Berriman will probably be available due to free agency. He has all the qualities to add as a great receiver, but Please, don't give to many more un-freindly salary cap deals to those who were rejects from other teams. I gets you behind the 8-ball, ever time.
lee

AOL

#6 Nov 26, 2007
Im still not ready to throw in the towel on Boller. when you have 1 second to look down field and throw, thats not a good indication of what he can do. Unitas. Brady, Manning; none of these guys could win in our present state
Mike

Waterford, MI

#7 Nov 26, 2007
Oh Mike. You are in such a conundrum now aren't you?

What happens if they do what you say, and as a unit everyone plays better........INCLUDING Boller? What if, as many of us so called "loyalists" as you say, are right about the real issue with this team? What if the kids playing offensive line ARE better than the old vets at this point in their careers, and they somehow learn to play their positions like the real NFL, and as a result Boller plays consistent as well?

Oh, I'm already sure you'll figure out some way to make it bad, and some way to take your shots at Boller anyway.

And way to tell Troy Smith he sucks before he even gets an NFL snap in a regular game. You never cease to amaze.
Bo Didley

Belleville, MI

#8 Nov 26, 2007
Just do something! Even if it's wrong. Can it be any worse than the complete ineptitude we've been watching?
Roy

United States

#9 Nov 26, 2007
Pretty much agree right down the line, but I doubt anything will change. Billick is not one for change.
There is no reason now not to try anything that might light a spark under these guys for next year. Let's find out who's ready to play and who's here just to cash a check.
Despite that, Billick will call the same old plays with the same old players, who will just get more discouraged. It's going to be a looooong last five games.
WV MIke

Keyser, WV

#10 Nov 26, 2007
The offensive line is pathetic. Grade F . Boller throws to Derrick Mason way too much. Boller holds the ball way too
long. He cant sit in the pocket and wait on the downfield pass to open up he needs to get rid of the ball quicker.
These are all press quotes. Who in the heck do you throw to when you have to back pedal set up and throw in less than 2 seconds. Sunday the defense was in the backfield waiting for boller to get there. I bet Boller would like to see Troy Smith play more too. Just in the hope he can live till free agency. Derick Anderson probably watches Ravens footage and thanks God for unanswered prayers.
Kevin

New York, NY

#11 Nov 26, 2007
preston why dont you play qb for the ravens and have troy smith write for the sun. both would probably be improvements. the only advantage of playing troy smith would be i could pay off my mortgage betting on the other team. he couldnt throw against 4th stringers in exibition games what makes you think he could throw against the patriots #1 defense? if he played smith against new england i really believe wed lose by over 100 points and for sure we would get shut out. as for the other guys-yes they should get more playing time but you still have to remain competitive. if the o-line gives boller time to throw and we get heap and mcalister back there isnt a reason we cant give new england a decent game. were not that much worse than philly are we?
ocdon

Berlin, MD

#12 Nov 26, 2007
I agree with you Mike, but what about using Kicker Rhys Lloyd ?? Seems like the Ravens could use a few more touchbacks...
John

Dundalk, MD

#13 Nov 26, 2007
I agree with the article and would add that Billick needs to let Neuheisal call the plays. If he doesn't work out then we find a replacement for next year. The Ravens can't fire Billick because they would lose $15 million. Billick isn't a bad coach, he's just a bad play caller and clock manager. The Ravens need to show the fans that they are commited to improving the team for next year and it needs to start now! What better time then now with us playing the Patriots at home on Monday night and everyone expecting us to get crushed. Let Neuheisal switch things up a little bit and throw a wrench in the illegal video tapes that Bellichek and his coaches are watching. Heck right now on ESPN they are saying the Ravens don't have the WRs to throw 4 and 5 WR sets at the Pats like the Eagles did. I beg to differ on that one, Mason, Clayton, Williams, Darling and Figurs isn't such a bad 5 to throw out there. You could even throw Troy Smith in there on a play or two and maybe try some trick plays. We have nothing to lose at this point so let the players have some fun and see if we can be competitive. Anything is better then the way we have been playing.
shrimptrawler

Idanha, OR

#14 Nov 26, 2007
1. Wouldn't it be nice if Jonathan Ogden announced his retirement before the final home game against Pittsburgh? That way the fans could celebrate a "Thanks Jonathan" game, and give the future HOFer a proper sendoff.

I thought the saddest part of the charger game was Shawne Merriman blowing past Ogden to strip Kyle Boller, and then see a lead footed Ogden try to chase after the ball to no avail.

2. The second saddest play was watching ANtonio Gates pull off a double move on Ray Lewis and waltz into the end zone. THe end is coming for Ray also, but he still plays hard, and otherwise i think he should have 2 decent years left as a starter.

3. With New England coming up, I would like to see the ravens activate all their front seven players including Edgar Jones and Antawn Barnes. They are going to need a serious D-line rotation to hang with the pats for four quarters. The eagles set the blueprint - maybe this will be another Ryan family "bodybag" game!(think back to Buddy Ryan, Eagles/niners vs Joe Montana.)

Tom Brady should be at least a little sore next tuesday morning.
Cornell

Baltimore, MD

#15 Nov 26, 2007
John wrote:
I agree with the article and would add that Billick needs to let Neuheisal call the plays. If he doesn't work out then we find a replacement for next year. The Ravens can't fire Billick because they would lose $15 million. Billick isn't a bad coach, he's just a bad play caller and clock manager. The Ravens need to show the fans that they are commited to improving the team for next year and it needs to start now! What better time then now with us playing the Patriots at home on Monday night and everyone expecting us to get crushed. Let Neuheisal switch things up a little bit and throw a wrench in the illegal video tapes that Bellichek and his coaches are watching. Heck right now on ESPN they are saying the Ravens don't have the WRs to throw 4 and 5 WR sets at the Pats like the Eagles did. I beg to differ on that one, Mason, Clayton, Williams, Darling and Figurs isn't such a bad 5 to throw out there. You could even throw Troy Smith in there on a play or two and maybe try some trick plays. We have nothing to lose at this point so let the players have some fun and see if we can be competitive. Anything is better then the way we have been playing.
The players look bored. Better put them in quick. they all look like napp time!!!!!
Louis Morris

Lakewood, WA

#16 Nov 26, 2007
They can put D williams, Mason, Clayton, and Figurs into four wide set. Get more one on one cover. Spread the defense out. Plus they can use a platoon system at run back postion. A strong run game with two full back and a running back in the backfield. I like to crush the defense. They have a lot of option they are not taking advantage of guys. I would attack the defense and stick them with the running game in the beginning of the game to wear down the defense. In short they have options. But I am not the coach. Owner you check please.
brwterp

Hagerstown, MD

#17 Nov 27, 2007
It's hard to assess the offensive players under Billick's offensive scheme. It hasn't changed, nor worked, in the nine years since he arrived. The O-line is similarly plagued by a simplistic blocking scheme. Billick could be a good head coach if he allowed an offensive coordinator the same freedom that he allows his defensive coordinator. For now, the talent that they do have is being wasted.
swane

Jessup, MD

#18 Nov 28, 2007

It makes too much sence to play the rookies. Billick has 5 games left in his head coaching career at Baltimore. We hope.

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