As season grows old, Ravens need to s...

As season grows old, Ravens need to start thinking young

There are 50 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Nov 27, 2007, titled As season grows old, Ravens need to start thinking young. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

About a week ago, Ravens coach Brian Billick was saying all the right things. He still talked about the playoffs and having enough confidence to win the remaining six games.

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Joe Gala

Mullica Hill, NJ

#1 Nov 27, 2007
Mark Clayton has great elusiveness? What games are you watching? You must mean the former Miami Dolphin because the Raven Mark Clayton gets zero separation and is lucky to get 2 yards after a catch.
fan for life

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#2 Nov 27, 2007
Mike don't you think that the fire is gone? Several of those players you may be considering replacing if on a team with a game plan would probably look a whole lot better, if sure they would feel a whole lot better and would have a lot more fun then they are now.
I know this a business but it's also a sport and sports are still supposed to be fun for the fans and most importantly the players, neither of which have been having any fun for quite some time.
Look around the league and you see the teams that are winning have players on a level (with the exception of a quarterback) with our own. The coaching staff properly prepair their team for the following Sunday and are knowledgable enough to make corrections during a game when required so those players look like they know what to expect and how to deal with it.
Baltimore has those players they don't have those coaches.
You are an excellent sports writer Mike but on this one I don't agree with your assessment.

Tampa, FL

#3 Nov 27, 2007
On the money again with this article - Ravens need a youth movement in the WORST kind of way. With all due respect to the grizzled vets who have played their hearts out for B-more, it's time to start thinking about next year and finding out who deserves to stick around.

New Baltimore, MI

#4 Nov 27, 2007
For once I agree with DePreston except about Troy Smith. TOO SMALL.
I would put all the injured players on IR, sit most of the veterans that have a player behind them on the depth chart and wing it! Sounds a little like the Orioles doesn't it?

I hope MD basketball is worth watching this year becasue there sure as hell ain't gonna be anything else.

Halethorpe, MD

#5 Nov 27, 2007
I was thinking about people like Matt Bouza, Ray Butler, Curtis Dickey, Randy McMillan, Tim Sherwin, Art Schlichter, David Humm and Mike Pagel and it seemed to me that the Raven's concerns weren't so bad. Who were those guys? They were the alleged skill players for the 82 Colts. Ravens fans have really shown how entitled they are this season. As someone who witnessed the Mayflower massacre, it could be a lot worse.

Halethorpe, MD

#6 Nov 27, 2007
"Billick might also make similar moves on the offensive line, inserting some of these youngsters at times for left tackle Jonathan Ogden and center Mike Flynn."

He already did that which is why the O-line has had such a bad year. Since when does winning the Heisman trophy mean you deserve anything in the pros? Go down the list and see how many busts it includes.


#7 Nov 27, 2007
Maybe the Ravens can cover the spread ala Miami and Philly

Taylor, MI

#8 Nov 27, 2007
Randy wrote:
For once I agree with DePreston except about Troy Smith. TOO SMALL.
I would put all the injured players on IR, sit most of the veterans that have a player behind them on the depth chart and wing it! Sounds a little like the Orioles doesn't it?
I hope MD basketball is worth watching this year becasue there sure as hell ain't gonna be anything else.
You're right about Smith! Just not tall enough to see the field in the NFL. On Terps, I suggest you take the leap to the women's team, the guys are just too raw and shallow this year. Beyond Gist, Osby and Vasquez, their just too inexperienced.

United States

#9 Nov 27, 2007
You cannot win in this league with an offensive line that has two first year players and two second year players starting. It makes little difference who is your QB.

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#10 Nov 27, 2007
You think Billick was saying the right things last week by suggesting the Ravens could win their remaining six games? Preston -- you're not only a lousy writer, you're as insane as Billick is.
Dan the Man

West Chicago, IL

#11 Nov 27, 2007
Some good suggestions Mike, but Billick will not do it. He will stick with the status quo and since Biscotti loves him so much, he will be here next year and it will all be the same. Billick will NOT change!, so don't try to make sense.

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#12 Nov 27, 2007
I thought that's what the Ravens have been doing all year with all the injuries. The O line is the problem. When Boller has time,he hits his target.
Bob D

United States

#13 Nov 27, 2007
Since you cannot (by law) libel the dead, I guess it’s safe to say the Ravens SUCK!
I think many problems on offense can be laid right at the feet (clodhoppers) of the offensive line. Ogden is not the player he was even a year ago, and none of the replacements appear to be any better. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning would look as bad as Boller and McNair behind these guys. I think Steve Biscotti should open his wallet and make offers to Joe Bugel of the Redskins and Dante Scarnecchia of the Patriots to coach the Ravens’ offensive line. I don’t believe Ozzie Newsome is that bad at drafting an offensive line. But what are Chris Foerster, Wade Harmon and Greg Roman doing with that talent? Not much, it appears.
The Ravens will probably say goodbye to many older players, just like it’s been rumored. I’m pretty sure Ogden and Flynn will go, as well as Ray Lewis, who’s slowed down considerably in 12 years, Derrick Mason and Mike Anderson. If they choose to keep Figures, then the trainer needs to liberally spray glue to his hands.
Thanks for letting me vent.
End Zone Kibitzer

Beaumont, TX

#14 Nov 27, 2007
Are you kidding me! You may be right about looking at the roster for the future, but with this coaching staff, a roster of former college all stars would still have to contend with a bland no imagination game plan to try to score a touchdown. The only reality is the record over seven years.No imagination on offense. The defense cannot carry the offense.

Ottawa, Canada

#15 Nov 27, 2007
Well Mike you have a supreme grasp of the obvious. The season is over and the Ravens need to get young. I'm not as positive about our young offensive line as maybe you are, but at least considering we always had 1 pro bowler and 4 also ran's I guess we'll make do.

I'd like to be suprised by troy smith at quarterback, but don't think I will be. More importantly, everyone is making Mcgahee out to be some stud running back and I don't see it. We let our best offensive player of the billick era leave last year and for what? I know so we could re-invent the offense! HA HA!

As for the receivers, we don't have any other than mason that's why he gets all the passes! I'm sure some of that falls on the scheme and the quarterback, but I'm sure derek anderson wouldn't look as good throwing to spyniewski and williams as he does throwing to braylon edwards and winslow. As much as I fault billick for this offense, I don't believe we've ever had talent at the skill positions other than Jamal and that's Ozzie's problem. Yes, heap's great for the 40% he plays but who can rely on that.

Charles Flinn

Abingdon, MD

#16 Nov 27, 2007
No kidding, but what do we do about Billick.

Columbus, OH

#17 Nov 27, 2007
Ya'll some racist bltches.

Mechanicsburg, PA

#18 Nov 27, 2007
I am one of those who blames Ozzie Newsom as well as Billick for the lack of talent on the Ravens. Put aside the defensive players drafted by Phil Savage, the team doesn't have any real stars. When you draft busts like Devard Darling and Pittman in the third round your scouting department and talent evaluation processes have failed. The Ravens need to look in-depth at their scouting department.
The Real Browns

Cleveland, OH

#19 Nov 27, 2007
Man...them Ratbirds are looking pretty old. Someone get Ray Ray a can of Ensure. Maybe your team should buy stock in Geratol and Ben Gay as well.

P.S. Please sign Billick to a lifetime contract.
T Savage


#20 Nov 27, 2007
If Ogden retires and Flynn moves on; I'm not sure Chester is more than a backup; so, (Unless they draft Jake Long) I see :Terry at LT, Grubbs at LG, Brown at C, Yanda at RG, and Gaither at RT. I'm not too worried about LB but Help at CB and QB is needed and this was supposed to be a TE heavy offense and thier is only one who can play.

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