Finally, it may be time for Holt

Finally, it may be time for Holt

There are 52 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Oct 22, 2008, titled Finally, it may be time for Holt. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Terrence Holt failed his first pop quiz as a Bear on Wednesday. "Quick," the newly signed safety was asked.

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nathan

Casa Grande, AZ

#43 Oct 23, 2008
Babich's bend and break defensive scheme is to blame.
The Voice of Reason

Louisville, KY

#44 Oct 23, 2008
Vic In NoCal wrote:
"The best safety in the league"?
You're an idiot. Maybe 7 years ago.
I say again: You're an IDIOT. Go away.
Hey dick...I mean Vic... Mike brown is playing free safety now not strong thus less obligation for run support which is why you don't see the big hits as much... Payne is a 4th line backer and thus gets the glory shots but brown has punished any wide reciever who has caught a ball in front of him... try watching a game homie
ryan

Minneapolis, MN

#46 Oct 24, 2008
i swear to god if one more person asks to have adam archieLETA RECIVER BURN HIM back i swear ill burn his house down. you kno im sick and tired of this bull**** with our coaching staff, all they say is "every team has injuries" yes thats true, a player here and there. not their whole secondery and spots here and there on the Dline. its time to start condition, i dont kno if we need a new staff, trainers or what but can we get some F'en plyometrics or at least some G D blood and guts drills for freaken sakes. when i used to go to training camp in the past they actually ran this team hard and it blew the carbon out early, they broke them down early to bluid them up strong, and those were the dumb coaches, wanstat, dickie boy. im a ex-athlete and personel trainer and i work with athletes, they hate the summer 2 a days but any crafty vet with a brain will tell u theyr like a dirty girl, they like getting beat up, because it makes them bad mother F'ers when the snow hits and all origanl 11 are healthy. bring back iron mike!

Since: Jul 08

Genoa IL.

#47 Oct 24, 2008
I think the signing of Holt says alot about their faith in draft pick C.Steltz. He must not be improving like they expected
bigbear

Mt Zion, IL

#48 Oct 24, 2008
Mellyman wrote:
I think the signing of Holt says alot about their faith in draft pick C.Steltz. He must not be improving like they expected
wow i totally agree ryan, maybe u should be coach dude, im glade someone knows whats going on here, to bad its not lovieeeee
Disgusted

Manteno, IL

#49 Oct 24, 2008
Thomas wrote:
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You think Grossman is a class act? For all the games he played in and really stunk up the joint, the interceptions, the fumbles, tripping himself coming out from center, I have yet to hear Grossman ever, EVER take responsibility for his poor play. He usually has a **** grin on his face after he's fumbled the ball for the 2nd or 3rd time.
Now when orton is doing well Grossman sits on the back of the sidelines and mopes, probably hoping the bears loose.
you call that class?
You are making assumptions about Grossman not taking responsibility and sulking on the sidelines hoping they lose. Your proof? To the other person talking about the Bear's record, did you read where I noted that the Bears were winning? He still got bashed. What does that tell you? I stand behind what I said. I hope he continues to well. But I need more evidence. The fact that he was a rookie before is irrelevant. I make reference to all the people wondering why he was replaced in the first place. The Bears did not replace him because he was playing like an All-pro, rookie or not.
Anne

Washington, DC

#50 Oct 24, 2008
ryan wrote:
i swear to god if one more person asks to have adam archieLETA RECIVER BURN HIM back i swear ill burn his house down. you kno im sick and tired of this bull ***** with our coaching staff, all they say is "every team has injuries" yes thats true, a player here and there. not their whole secondery and spots here and there on the Dline. its time to start condition, i dont kno if we need a new staff, trainers or what but can we get some F'en plyometrics or at least some G D blood and guts drills for freaken sakes. when i used to go to training camp in the past they actually ran this team hard and it blew the carbon out early, they broke them down early to bluid them up strong, and those were the dumb coaches, wanstat, dickie boy. im a ex-athlete and personel trainer and i work with athletes, they hate the summer 2 a days but any crafty vet with a brain will tell u theyr like a dirty girl, they like getting beat up, because it makes them bad mother F'ers when the snow hits and all origanl 11 are healthy. bring back iron mike!
Ryan,

Before you send an more emails you may want to click on the Spelling and Grammar key (located under Tools) before you hit "send" that way the rest of us might be able to figure out what you are trying to say.
RUSerious

Chicago, IL

#51 Oct 24, 2008
Thomas wrote:
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Speed is critical at the Safety position. There is more to playing the position then to push the receiver out of bounds after he catches the ball. Stats are not everything but if you want to bring up stats, how many interceptions does brown have, ZERO. That's a pretty key stat for anyone in the secondary.
Brown was once one of the best players on the bears defense but careers in the NFL are short. He can't keep up with todays receivers that is obvious. But as you pointed out he'll be there to push them out of bounds after the play is over. And that goes down as a tackle or assist in the stats.
Right, which is why I'd be interested in seeing how many passes have been thrown against the Bears for 20+ yards. The secondary is a victim of the cover 2 in Lovie's defense, let's face it, Offensive Coordinators have figured out how to dip and dunk passes into the zone pockets using the slant pass on the Cover 2. It is not Mike Brown's job to intercept the underneath passing that the Bears are seeing this year, in fact it would be totally ludicrous for him to have a lot of interceptions in the situations we are seeing played against the Bears, underneath passing. Hence, why you see Mike Brown making the stops, the corners are giving way too much of a cushion, or trying to jump routes resulting in an underneath passing play going 10 yards where it needs safety help. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen too many QBs against the Bears this year test the Safeties deep. I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time.
lou

United States

#52 Oct 24, 2008
Sublime1 wrote:
Hey, what was wrong with archuleta? He was good, wasn't he?
:-)
Archuleta was a huge mistake. The guy was slower than Brown and Brown has beter tackling skills.
Go Bears..
truth talker

Woodridge, IL

#53 Oct 24, 2008
Mullin trying to make him all pro so soon. Hasn't played a game and now he is going to be difference maker. This praise for a guy who is with his 4th team. Got to have some definencies or else he would still be with team that drafted him. Lovie Smith said Bears are lucky Holt is available to them. Gee, wonder why that is? Smith are you that blind that you can't see that if he didn't have some problems somewhere then he wouldn't be available half way through the season. Smith never ceases to amaze me with his observations.
ryan

Minneapolis, MN

#54 Oct 24, 2008
RUSerious wrote:
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Right, which is why I'd be interested in seeing how many passes have been thrown against the Bears for 20+ yards. The secondary is a victim of the cover 2 in Lovie's defense, let's face it, Offensive Coordinators have figured out how to dip and dunk passes into the zone pockets using the slant pass on the Cover 2. It is not Mike Brown's job to intercept the underneath passing that the Bears are seeing this year, in fact it would be totally ludicrous for him to have a lot of interceptions in the situations we are seeing played against the Bears, underneath passing. Hence, why you see Mike Brown making the stops, the corners are giving way too much of a cushion, or trying to jump routes resulting in an underneath passing play going 10 yards where it needs safety help. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen too many QBs against the Bears this year test the Safeties deep. I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time.
its football not english class little girl, dont worry bout my spelling teacher
imp11902

Macungie, PA

#55 Oct 25, 2008
Ryan,

How can you make a valid claim if no one can read what the hell you're trying to say?

As for Mike Brown, it's more the playcalling that's hurting him. They aren't letting him in the box or up close to the line of scrimmage where he does best. Instead they're keeping him back to protect him from injury. I think if they stop trying to protect him so much, we'll start seeing the Mike Brown of old. It also doesn't help that we have almost no pass rush, so the quarterbacks have loads of time to read and pick apart the secondary.

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