Eagles, Vick work out new deal

Eagles, Vick work out new deal

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Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#2 Feb 12, 2013
the Eagles will not get a Super Bowl win wih a q/b like the Convick......i see another dork coach............hahahah
just do it

Northampton, PA

#3 Feb 12, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
the Eagles will not get a Super Bowl win wih a q/b like the Convick......i see another dork coach..........hahahah
Why is he a dork? They just restructured Vick's contract to where it won't hurt them one bit. Now they have him in a deal that will be an effective stopgap while he tries to build a team, and if Vick performs well, he'll still make less than he would have under his old deal. Where does the problem with Chip Kelly lie for you?

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#4 Feb 13, 2013
He wasn't living up to his previous contract. I think this is a win situation for both sides. If Vick plays well, he will get paid next season. If he doesn't, the Eagles aren't locked into anything long term at this point. I hope Vick does well. It would be a terrific ending to an already amazing story of redemption.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#6 Feb 14, 2013
just do it wrote:
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Why is he a dork? They just restructured Vick's contract to where it won't hurt them one bit. Now they have him in a deal that will be an effective stopgap while he tries to build a team, and if Vick performs well, he'll still make less than he would have under his old deal. Where does the problem with Chip Kelly lie for you?
he is NOT a good q/b.......when are fans going to get that? Look how he played this past year....he stuck it to Andy Reid who tried to improve him.....I have watched the Eagles go thru 4 different Coaches and never go to the Super Bowl.....this Coach won't either with the Convick ......not a good q/b
just do it

Northampton, PA

#7 Feb 14, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
<quoted text>he is NOT a good q/b.......when are fans going to get that? Look how he played this past year....he stuck it to Andy Reid who tried to improve him.....I have watched the Eagles go thru 4 different Coaches and never go to the Super Bowl.....this Coach won't either with the Convick ......not a good q/b
Reid took them to a Super Bowl in '05. You must have meant "won" a Super Bowl.
You can just as easily say, Reid stuck it to Vick. At 30 years old he decided to change Vick's game which led to no less turnovers or injuries. More turnovers than ever last year. Chip Kelly's offense and a healthy o-line could remove the situations that led to those things over the last 2 years.
Something that can't be forgotten in this whole thing is, Vick came much cheaper now and a lot of his money will have to be earned in the form of incentives for performance. Considering the QB's on the market and the fact that the eagles are rebuilding, getting Vick cheap is not a bad move. Especially in an offense that doesn't rely so heavily on long passes which require more time in the pocket.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#8 Feb 16, 2013
meant "NEVER WENT TO THE SUPER BOWL AND WON".....the owner wants a win and he isn't going to get it with the Convick.....awful q/b
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#9 Feb 16, 2013
the Convick came to the Eagles cheap because of his dog fighting......no team wanted him....he is still in that position....he is a very disliked q/b and also as a human being
just do it

Northampton, PA

#10 Feb 16, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
the Convick came to the Eagles cheap because of his dog fighting......no team wanted him....he is still in that position....he is a very disliked q/b and also as a human being
And there's one of the biggest problems on this forum. If you want to talk about how much you hate him, that's fine, but then keep football, his career and the subsequent misinformation about both, out of it. If you feel your opinion of him is justified, it doesn't need to be enhanced by incorrect facts.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#11 Feb 17, 2013
what incorrect facts???????? He is a known dog fighter. Get your facts straight
just do it

Northampton, PA

#12 Feb 17, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
what incorrect facts???????? He is a known dog fighter. Get your facts straight
That's your one fact that's correct. He is a known dog fighter. Now here's the ones that aren't.
"came to the Eagles cheap because of his dog fighting"
No, he came cheap because he wasn't a starter when he came back and he hadn't played or even practiced in over 2 years.
"no team wanted him"
Not only did the Eagles want him, so did a few other teams. Look it up.
"he is still in that position"
No he's not. There are other teams that would have signed him today. Look it up.
"he is a very disliked q/b"
How so, considering he was the MVP runner up 2 year ago plus a one time winner and one time runner up for the cover of Madden ? Look it up.
"he stuck it to Andy Reid who tried to improve him"
"tried to improve him"? How ? By putting him in a new system that failed miserably ? You shouldn't have to look that up. It's quite obvious.
Dispute that with something other than your opinion if you can.
just do it

Northampton, PA

#13 Feb 17, 2013
Hey shadoz, I found this while I was reading the articles on the right side of this page.

"Few could have blamed the Eagles if they determined to move on from Vick. But if they did, they would have parted ways with a player who would instantly become one of the most coveted quarterbacks on the open market".

Again... WOULD INSTANTLY BECOME ONE OF THE MOST COVETED QUARTERBACKS ON THE OPEN MARKET".

How does that fit in with your "no team wanted him... he's still in that position" theory ?

See how easy it is to find the real facts ?

Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#14 Feb 18, 2013
that is way to funny and so untrue.......he is an awful q/b.......the Falcons let him go and look how good the falcons are now..........there were no other teams wanting the Convick when it was wide open about his dog fighting.....he's a load!
just do it

Northampton, PA

#15 Feb 18, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
that is way to funny and so untrue.......he is an awful q/b.......the Falcons let him go and look how good the falcons are now..........there were no other teams wanting the Convick when it was wide open about his dog fighting.....he's a load!
I said, "Dispute that with something other than your opinion if you can." Thanks for proving you can't. If you're right, why can't you just prove it?
Let me help you. Upon his release from prison, 26 teams said they would not entertain giving Vick a try out. That leaves 6 that would. Almost 20% of the league. Far cry from "no one" isn't it?
Why people would rather be wrong and look foolish than look something up is beyond me. Christ, proof that there's a lot of interest in him now was right here on this page. Un-freakin-real.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#16 Feb 19, 2013
what a crazy reply...........the convick is an awful q/b if you want to call him that. I don't have to explain myself to you, everyone but you know that the Convick is a jerk.......as far as him being a q/b he sucks.....he is in the no where league not even close to Joe Montana, Brady's league..now they are some awesome q/b's
just do it

Northampton, PA

#17 Feb 19, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
what a crazy reply..........the convick is an awful q/b if you want to call him that. I don't have to explain myself to you, everyone but you know that the Convick is a jerk.......as far as him being a q/b he sucks.....he is in the no where league not even close to Joe Montana, Brady's league..now they are some awesome q/b's
"I don't have to explain myself to you"
That's right, you don't have to explain your OPINION to me. Everyone is entitled to their OPINION, but then don't reply as though your posts are based on something else. You've yet to prove that anything you've said has been a fact except that he was a dog killer. You don't even have a response to saying no one wants him, when an article right on this page said he "would instantly become one of the most coveted quarterbacks on the open market". If you want to live in the denial you surround yourself with, by all means enjoy it, but seriously, please try to remember what's fact and what's OPINION before you spout off like you did.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#19 Feb 20, 2013
just do it wrote:
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"I don't have to explain myself to you"
That's right, you don't have to explain your OPINION to me. Everyone is entitled to their OPINION, but then don't reply as though your posts are based on something else. You've yet to prove that anything you've said has been a fact except that he was a dog killer. You don't even have a response to saying no one wants him, when an article right on this page said he "would instantly become one of the most coveted quarterbacks on the open market". If you want to live in the denial you surround yourself with, by all means enjoy it, but seriously, please try to remember what's fact and what's OPINION before you spout off like you did.
yea i did write FACTS. The Convick is a known felon...he fought dogs to their death.......great q/b, year right. a real loser!
just do it

Northampton, PA

#20 Feb 20, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
<quoted text>yea i did write FACTS. The Convick is a known felon...he fought dogs to their death.......great q/b, year right. a real loser!
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just didn't see this post outlining the exact things you said that were NOT FACTS.
Like to try again ?
"came to the Eagles cheap because of his dog fighting"
No, he came cheap because he wasn't a starter when he came back and he hadn't played or even practiced in over 2 years.
"no team wanted him"
Not only did the Eagles want him, so did a few other teams. Look it up.
"he is still in that position"
You can skip this one. I already provided a quote from an article on this page that refers to him as "the most coveted QB on the open market" if the Eagles didn't sign him.
"he is a very disliked q/b"
How so, considering he was the MVP runner up 2 year ago plus a one time winner and one time runner up for the cover of Madden ? Look it up.
"he stuck it to Andy Reid who tried to improve him"
"tried to improve him"? How ? By putting him in a new system that failed miserably ?

Ok, now is your chance to prove any of that was correct.
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#21 Feb 21, 2013
go on with yourself and your answers. the convick is a known felon b/c of his dog fighting. everyone knows that except you. get real. he was an awful q/b on the falcons and an even worse one on th eagles. andy reid lost his job b/c of that jerk he tried to help. he is a thankless human being
just do it

Northampton, PA

#22 Feb 21, 2013
Shadoz wrote:
go on with yourself and your answers. the convick is a known felon b/c of his dog fighting. everyone knows that except you. get real. he was an awful q/b on the falcons and an even worse one on th eagles. andy reid lost his job b/c of that jerk he tried to help. he is a thankless human being

Let's do this one misconception / lie at a time since you obviously can't handle all of them at once.
How is it that "andy reid lost his job b/c of that jerk" ?
Shadoz

Taylor, MI

#24 Feb 22, 2013
go on with yourselves......andy reid a good coach that is the best thin they did was get rid of him after 15 years of nothing.....hahahahahahaha next is the felon to go..........hahahahahaha...... tom brady is one of the best q/b's around. look how many times he has been and WON a super bowl......not the convick he's a loser

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