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Denver columnist to other NFL teams: Take Jay Cutler - please

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purplehaze

Canada

#46 Mar 18, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
Wednesday morning and Jackson is still our starting QB.
Jay Cutler is holding steady at 9 on the weenie-meter.
...man you forgot to mention KLINK...he's going to be P*S*S*E*D...still funny though!
Toolio

Minneapolis, MN

#47 Mar 18, 2009
Dicky wrote:
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I don't understand why you would rate Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger as great QBs. They won Super Bowls with their defense, and they did just enough to win. Even if you don't count those two as not really good, you can definitely include Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, and Jeff Hostetler as not really good QBs that have won the Superbowl in the last 20 years.
Dicky is absolutely right. You can include Eli in that. Roethelisberger is arguable because he got it done in the cruch this year, so it wasn't all D. In fact his offense won the game at the end. Him and that fantasy failure of a WR.
Indyfan

Fishers, IN

#48 Mar 18, 2009
Whoever gets Cutler will have to sell their future. He may be talented but I hear the work effort isn't good. The more I think of it we are better off in a deep draft to fill in our WR OL DB needs than to pay too much for a guy that is not all that he thinks he is. I don't think the Vikings are really interested unless a lot of other interest falls off and a bargain can be had. Besides none of the whiners on this site will put up too long with another whiner.
Dicky

United States

#53 Mar 18, 2009
xHP ni naD wrote:
<quoted text>hate to break it to ya Dickt Do but Hoss didn't win no superbowl unless you mean while in IR. he broke his back in week 12 and Phil Simms (who could make my list of average qbs to win) won the game.
However, on December 15, 1990, Simms broke his foot during a game against the Buffalo Bills. The following week, Hostetler, who had thrown only 109 passes in his career for the Giants, took over as the starting quarterback. The Giants won their final two regular seasons games and swept through the playoffs, defeating the Bills in Super Bowl XXV, 2019. During the game, he completed 20 of 32 passes for 222 yards, with one touchdown and no interceptions.
Frank

Spartanburg, SC

#55 Mar 18, 2009
Jeff Hostetler was the QB for the NY Giants in Super Bowl XXV (25). The Giants won, 20-19 over Buffalo when Scott Norwood missed wide right.

Don't believe me? Look up the stats. The Hoss never got much respect, but he played well in relief of Simms that year.

Plenty of 'average' QBs have won Super Bowls. I'd have to rate Trent Dilfer as the worst. But from Joe Namath (worst QB in HOF) to Jim Plunkett (the only retired two time winner not in HOF), you'll need a guy who can make plays, and the Vikings don't have that right now. Cutler? Hell, go get him, because he's better than anyone on our roster right now.
a GIANT forever

Bronx, NY

#56 Mar 18, 2009
Frank wrote:
Jeff Hostetler was the QB for the NY Giants in Super Bowl XXV (25). The Giants won, 20-19 over Buffalo when Scott Norwood missed wide right.
Don't believe me? Look up the stats. The Hoss never got much respect, but he played well in relief of Simms that year.
Plenty of 'average' QBs have won Super Bowls. I'd have to rate Trent Dilfer as the worst. But from Joe Namath (worst QB in HOF) to Jim Plunkett (the only retired two time winner not in HOF), you'll need a guy who can make plays, and the Vikings don't have that right now. Cutler? Hell, go get him, because he's better than anyone on our roster right now.
these average qb that won superbowls had overpowering defenses except maybe the 69 jets.i dont think denver fans really want this man to go.they dont have a choice because he has made it clear hes not playing for denver.so now denver fans want him out!
a GIANT forever

Bronx, NY

#57 Mar 18, 2009
Dicky wrote:
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However, on December 15, 1990, Simms broke his foot during a game against the Buffalo Bills. The following week, Hostetler, who had thrown only 109 passes in his career for the Giants, took over as the starting quarterback. The Giants won their final two regular seasons games and swept through the playoffs, defeating the Bills in Super Bowl XXV, 2019. During the game, he completed 20 of 32 passes for 222 yards, with one touchdown and no interceptions.
i remember the play when hoss held on to the ball in the endzone from a safety that could have been a touchdown.also otis had a career day rushing the ball.the giants d also kept that bills high powered o in check.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#58 Mar 18, 2009
Even the above average QB's need some help to win it all. Brett Favre (the evil one) had Reggie White and the #1 defense, plus Desmond Howard having a career day. John Elway had Terrell Davis and a great running game. Those are two HOF QB that would be without SB wins if it was not for a balanced team. That said, Cutler could be the final piece, but only if you don't get in a bidding war with Tampa, Chicago, Jets, etc and have to give up too much for him. Otherwise, let him go and take your chances with Sage and use your draft choices.
Huge Jazz

Chicoutimi, Canada

#59 Mar 18, 2009
Al Coholic wrote:
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Oh yeah, Pro Bowl mean anything to you? Not that good. Funny. Why would he go to work where you do when he actually has the TALENT and ability to make millions of dollars AND choose his work environment. I bet you would like to see Cutler dance for you... fruitcake.
Have a drink Al. One pro bowl means nothing. His won-loss is worse than T-Jack.

“Vikings Rock”

Since: Jun 08

Smallville, SD

#62 Mar 18, 2009
Huge Jazz wrote:
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Have a drink Al. One pro bowl means nothing. His won-loss is worse than T-Jack.
I think ole Al may be on to something, and not talking about a whiskey coke either. Cutler does not have an Adrian Peterson or anywhere near the defensive help that T-Joke has/had, so that W-L statistic is distorted. Even crippled ole Gus went 8-3, which should tell you something. You got to have the players around you. Cutler had himself, a couple really good WR's in Marshall and Royal, a decent (at best) O-Line, went thru seven RB's (he ended up with Tatum Bell, who could not even make the Lions roster), and a defense that was terrible. Put Cutler on a decent team and that stat goes way up.

“Zimmer Turner Overdrive”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#63 Mar 18, 2009
makes sense to me
Huge Jazz

Chicoutimi, Canada

#64 Mar 18, 2009
sodakviking wrote:
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I think ole Al may be on to something, and not talking about a whiskey coke either. Cutler does not have an Adrian Peterson or anywhere near the defensive help that T-Joke has/had, so that W-L statistic is distorted. Even crippled ole Gus went 8-3, which should tell you something. You got to have the players around you. Cutler had himself, a couple really good WR's in Marshall and Royal, a decent (at best) O-Line, went thru seven RB's (he ended up with Tatum Bell, who could not even make the Lions roster), and a defense that was terrible. Put Cutler on a decent team and that stat goes way up.
Interestng. But in that carse what is your measurement of success for the team? Lots of yards in the air by the QB or a playoff game?

T-Jake is not the reason for the playoff game, win or loose, butplayoffs is the name of the game.
levi

Dublin, OH

#65 Mar 18, 2009
look at cutler and the denver broncos offance in 08 non of them will be better just sit back and watch.
40for60

United States

#68 Mar 19, 2009
Dicky wrote:
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I don't understand why you would rate Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger as great QBs. They won Super Bowls with their defense, and they did just enough to win. Even if you don't count those two as not really good, you can definitely include Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, and Jeff Hostetler as not really good QBs that have won the Superbowl in the last 20 years.
If you happened to watch the latest Super Bowl, on the game winning drive, Ben R. was flawless. Ben threw a perfect pass to win the game, but even more impressive was the play right before the winning throw when he sailed another perfect pass into the end zone only to have the receiver blow the catch.
That is what a great QB can do for you, and yes, Ben should be on that list. It's not really about the numbers for Ben, he just shines the brightest when it's for all the marbles.
Al Coholic

Saint Paul, MN

#70 Mar 20, 2009
Mark, are you retarded? Brady Quinn for Cutler? Stafford making the Broncos better? Nice try. Romo is NOT leaving Dallas. This is the worst article I've read on a Cutler trade. Quinn has done nothing to date to say he is a better QB, Stafford will cost the Broncos an arm and a leg along with their other 1st round pick, not to mention he could be a bust, Romo is untradeable in big D. Broncos are better off trading Cutler to get some Defensive help + lower 1st round draft picks and signing a guy like Garcia or Leftwich. Give them EJ Henderson or Greenway and our 2nd rounder. OR our 1st rounder and next years 2nd.
Al Coholic

Saint Paul, MN

#71 Mar 20, 2009
Dicky wrote:
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I don't understand why you would rate Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger as great QBs. They won Super Bowls with their defense, and they did just enough to win. Even if you don't count those two as not really good, you can definitely include Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, and Jeff Hostetler as not really good QBs that have won the Superbowl in the last 20 years.
You know, I shouldn't say "Great" QB's, because that is a bit misleading of my intentions. These guys that I have mentioned have the ability to make "great" plays and are MVP caliber QB's in the SB and playoffs. Maybe they don't go to the HOF, but if you look, Eli Mannings was the MVP. Big Bens play in that SB was MVP worthy. Yes, Great D's win SB's, but for the most part you HAVE to have a guy who is a big time playmaker. If you missed the first part of my initial post, I said these teams that have had average QB's had DOMINATING D's who had players that won the MVP. But if you look at the History, the QB is most likely the MVP. If you put the Vikes D on the same level as Tampa, Baltimore and LT and the Giants, you need to have a drink.
Al Coholic

Saint Paul, MN

#72 Mar 20, 2009
xHP ni naD wrote:
<quoted text>yep most of the QBs on "that list" had that "thing" the ability to lead. the ability inspire teammates to play harder. Plunket wasn't great but he had heart..McMahan had heart...they could make something happen ... the Vikings don't have a guy like that (unless Sage just hasn't had a shot)We don't need a HOF QB and there aint many out there; we just need a guy who's confident in his ability and a coach that can maximize his talent. speaking of superbowl QBs T Jack reminds me of one. A LOOOOSER remember that mutt who played for New England against the Bears. Tony Eaton or Easton or whatever? remember how by about the 3 rd snap of the superbowl he was on his knees groping Richard Dent's and the Fridges zippers? If that aint TJack i don't know what is.scared, incisive little b***h. Give me a smart QB with a little heart and we'll have a ring
Exactly my point.
Al Coholic

Saint Paul, MN

#73 Mar 20, 2009
xHP ni naD wrote:
<quoted text>what about Washington with Doug Williams, Chicago with Jim McMahan, Raiders twice with Jim Plunket, Washington with Theisman, Washington again with Mark Rypin,(the Redskins must have had a real head coach to win with that bunch of bubs) and of course the biggest loooooser of all , Green Bay with the evil one. i wouldn't give a plug nickle any of them of them but they're all better than what we have, except the evil one. if you look over the list what they all had in common;(except Doug Williams which was a fluke,)(that was the year Disco Nelson dropped the ball in the end zone (tough catch) sending Washington to the superbowl where Williams heaves up five TD passes in the 2nd quarter.} what the all had was a great head coach,(except the evil one) and he had the refs in his pocket. my point is that the Vikings have enough talent to win it all with the roster we have...IF WE HAD A HEAD COACH oh yea and the evil one brett fvrea eats s**t . no i will not let it go
How many of these guys were SB MVP's? How many had TOTALLY DOMINATING D's better than the Vikes? I rest my case. Your odd to win the SB with a (T) Joke at QB are limited. I'd rather take my chances with a MVP QB.
Derek B

Worcester, MA

#75 Mar 20, 2009
As an avid Bronco fan I hate to think that we have to start over with another new QB however, in this case, I am all for it. I am sick and tired of listening to Cutler whine. Get him some cheese to go with it and ship him off to Dallas. I think that Romo would be a great addition to the Broncos. With the obvious building up of the Bronco defensive squad and a decent draft, the Broncos would be a playoff contender with Romo. Sure Romo has had his bad moments as well but this trade would be the best thing for all parties involved. Cutler and Romo would both get a fresh start and they would both probably do really well. This trade also would mean that both teams would still have high playoff hopes. Its a win win.....so to me....it a no brainer.

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