Steelers rout Pats, 33-10

Steelers rout Pats, 33-10

There are 20 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Nov 30, 2008, titled Steelers rout Pats, 33-10. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Pittsburgh's NFL -best defense stopped Matt Cassel's two-game offensive surge and pushed New England closer to strange territory: a sideline seat for the playoffs.

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Since: Sep 07

Midlothian, Virginia

#1 Nov 30, 2008
It's extremely hard for Belichick to win when he's missing Tom Brady and illegally obtained film of opposing coaches signal calling.

I think Randy Moss dropped three passes that Braylon Edwards (From the Cleveland Browns) could have caught with two broken hands.

I have to give props to Matt Cassell, he doesn't cry like a little b^tch like Tom Brady does when he's losing.

“youbeateverythin g youknowthat ”

Since: Apr 07

Buffalo, NY

#2 Nov 30, 2008
Pats will be hard pressed to make playoffs, what a pity!!!
Fed Up in Towson

Cockeysville, MD

#3 Nov 30, 2008
Always great to see malevolent little Hoodie get his ass kicked, especially at home in front of the league's most trash-talking fans. That hit on Welker was priceless too -- worth all 15 yards just to have it on the highlight reel.

I was on the fence before today, but the Steelers are for real this season. If it hadn't been for that Roethlisberger flub on the opening series, the game would have never even been close.
Marc

Scottsdale, AZ

#4 Nov 30, 2008
Fed Up in Towson wrote:
Always great to see malevolent little Hoodie get his ass kicked, especially at home in front of the league's most trash-talking fans. That hit on Welker was priceless too -- worth all 15 yards just to have it on the highlight reel.
I was on the fence before today, but the Steelers are for real this season. If it hadn't been for that Roethlisberger flub on the opening series, the game would have never even been close.
LMAO... yep the squealers are for real....Its all good... I know you all like pulling my middle leg. Squealers for real, Hilarious!!!You all are a friggin laugh a minute... Always good to read fresh drivel from the black and fold.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

East Butler, PA

#5 Dec 1, 2008
Fed Up in Towson wrote:
Always great to see malevolent little Hoodie get his ass kicked, especially at home in front of the league's most trash-talking fans. That hit on Welker was priceless too -- worth all 15 yards just to have it on the highlight reel.
I was on the fence before today, but the Steelers are for real this season. If it hadn't been for that Roethlisberger flub on the opening series, the game would have never even been close.
Good call dude. The pats offense got schooled big time. They were 1-13 on 3rd down conversions. Hell the Steelers had a tougher game against the Bengals last week. The pats are last seasons news/ choke-job. They peeked years ago on D and without brady to put up big scores the D can't hang and the teams not good enough. The window has pretty much closed on this team. Brady will be back but he won't be as good. He'll be looking out his earhole trying to protect his knees.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

East Butler, PA

#7 Dec 1, 2008
GHT wrote:
We all know the Ravens and Steelers "tend" to split their series. I am not looking past the Redskins this weekend, but, it looks like the Ravens will need to beat the Steelers in 2 weeks to have a chance at winning the division and not rely on other teams. I had hoped for more out of the Pats.
I think this one may go down to the wire. If both teams win next week then the dec. 14 game could be the decider.

“Steelers Forever”

Since: Dec 07

Cranberry Township PA

#10 Dec 1, 2008
GHT wrote:
<quoted text>I am saving this latest "prediction". It would be nice to throw yet another one in your face after you're wrong. We'll see. Yes, if the Pats, Jets and Dolphins keep losing the Ravens will get into the playoffs regardless. It would be nice, from a Ravens standpoint, to go into the home Steeler game with equal records.
I may be crucified for saying this, but my only worry for the Steelers is that Ravens' game. IF we are to lose one...that will be the one. My Crystal Ball says Steelers beat Boys...Steelers beat Titans (just need to stop the run)...Steelers beat Browns! That just leaves you guys.

STEELERS ROCK !!!

“Steelers Forever”

Since: Dec 07

Cranberry Township PA

#12 Dec 2, 2008
Fire Trembley wrote:
<quoted text>
If the Steelers lose to the Ravens they could very well miss the playoffs. Titans and Cowboys should roll the Steelers.
Ain't happen dude! No way...no how!

STEELERS ROCK !!!
Mary Cassel

AOL

#13 Dec 2, 2008
Pretty tough talk from Fire Testies considering the Ravens have lost ever game they have played when they face a tough opponent with a winning record.

Combined Win/Loss vs teams Ravens Beat:
33-62-1

Combined Win/Loss vs teams Ravens loss to:
39-9

Ravens only fooling their fans.

Since: Sep 07

Midlothian, Virginia

#14 Dec 3, 2008
Bill in Cranberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Ain't happen dude! No way...no how!
STEELERS ROCK !!!
No, WDVE rocks, the Steelers play football. I think the last Steeler victory against the Ravens will be the last Steeler victory against the Ravens for quite some time. If I'm wrong, I'll kiss your wife.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#15 Dec 3, 2008
Motorhead Fan wrote:
<quoted text>No, WDVE rocks, the Steelers play football. I think the last Steeler victory against the Ravens will be the last Steeler victory against the Ravens for quite some time. If I'm wrong, I'll kiss your wife.
No question, the Ravens are on the way up, but is there any reason for thinking the Steelers are on the way down? It should be a consistently COMPETITIVE series again in the coming years, with lots of splits, provided your Sacco stays healthy (if Ben goes down in the future, Dixon is going to be formidable replacement--Leftwich is now). Right now, I'd give slight edge to the Ravens in offense, a definite edge to the Steelers in defense. Do you have any basis for your opinion that the rivalry is now one-sided, other than just hatred and wishful thinking?

Since: Sep 07

Midlothian, Virginia

#16 Dec 3, 2008
Rex J Steelman wrote:
<quoted text>
No question, the Ravens are on the way up, but is there any reason for thinking the Steelers are on the way down? It should be a consistently COMPETITIVE series again in the coming years, with lots of splits, provided your Sacco stays healthy (if Ben goes down in the future, Dixon is going to be formidable replacement--Leftwich is now). Right now, I'd give slight edge to the Ravens in offense, a definite edge to the Steelers in defense. Do you have any basis for your opinion that the rivalry is now one-sided, other than just hatred and wishful thinking?
I do have a basis for my opinion.

I believe that the home field advantage works to our favor as it did for Pittsburgh earlier in the season and that particular game was REALLY STINKIN' CLOSE - if you recall, the Steelers won it by a field goal in overtime when our offense was in it's infancy. I believe our offense has evolved into a multi-dimensional threat that can adjust appropriately to the Steelers defense (we smoked the Eagles on both offense and defense). It also stands to reason that the Ravens and the Steelers find a higher gear when they play each other. At this point in the season, it appears the Ravens have more in the tank than the Steelers despite having so many players on the I.R.

The Ravens aren't just hanging on to win their games, they're brutalizing teams. Have a look at time of possession, have a look at scoring in the third and fourth quarter. You get the feeling that the Ravens are looking forward to December 14th and the Steelers just want to leave town alive with their yellow towels in hand.

Yes, the Ravens are on the way up, but, I don't see a similar order of magnitude of improvement in the Steelers. They may not be on their way down, but, they don't appear to have made the quantum leap that the Ravens have made since their last meeting.

Good enough for you?
Slick McSteel

Slippery Rock, PA

#17 Dec 3, 2008
Motorhead Fan wrote:
<quoted text>I do have a basis for my opinion.
I believe that the home field advantage works to our favor as it did for Pittsburgh earlier in the season and that particular game was REALLY STINKIN' CLOSE - if you recall, the Steelers won it by a field goal in overtime when our offense was in it's infancy. I believe our offense has evolved into a multi-dimensional threat that can adjust appropriately to the Steelers defense (we smoked the Eagles on both offense and defense). It also stands to reason that the Ravens and the Steelers find a higher gear when they play each other. At this point in the season, it appears the Ravens have more in the tank than the Steelers despite having so many players on the I.R.
The Ravens aren't just hanging on to win their games, they're brutalizing teams. Have a look at time of possession, have a look at scoring in the third and fourth quarter. You get the feeling that the Ravens are looking forward to December 14th and the Steelers just want to leave town alive with their yellow towels in hand.
Yes, the Ravens are on the way up, but, I don't see a similar order of magnitude of improvement in the Steelers. They may not be on their way down, but, they don't appear to have made the quantum leap that the Ravens have made since their last meeting.
Good enough for you?
Hey buddy, last I checked the Steelers were in first place! You guys got some catchin up to do big time. I haven't watched all the raven games but I did see the ravens get their tail handed to them by the giants, a team that barely beat the steelers. Jacobs ran all over your guys. He only got a handful of yards against the steelers. Hands down Steelers defense is the best in the league. The ravens won't run on the black and gold you can take that to the bank.

The ravens are a good team, second best in the AFC North. That's sayin alot right there. Like I said, I don't follow the ravens too closely but whippin the tar out of the bengals and the browns is no reason to crow that your better than the team that is in first place.

Since: Sep 07

Midlothian, Virginia

#18 Dec 3, 2008
Slick McSteel wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey buddy, last I checked the Steelers were in first place! You guys got some catchin up to do big time. I haven't watched all the raven games but I did see the ravens get their tail handed to them by the giants, a team that barely beat the steelers. Jacobs ran all over your guys. He only got a handful of yards against the steelers. Hands down Steelers defense is the best in the league. The ravens won't run on the black and gold you can take that to the bank.
The ravens are a good team, second best in the AFC North. That's sayin alot right there. Like I said, I don't follow the ravens too closely but whippin the tar out of the bengals and the browns is no reason to crow that your better than the team that is in first place.
An overtime field goal at Heinz field against a non-fully formed Ravens offense is all that separates the Steelers and the Ravens from a first place tie. Three points is nothing to hang your hat on especially when there has been so much improvement in the Ravens and so little in the Steelers. Don't get me wrong, I think the Steelers are a tough, quality team - I just haven't seen the quantum leap, the improvement on an order of magnitude by the Steelers that I've seen in the Ravens. Maybe whippin' the tar out of the bengals and the browns isn't impressive (hell, you guys beat them too, so what? Did YOU guys whip the tar out of them?), but, outscoring opponents 80 something to 0 in the fourth quarter of their last 7 or so victories does say something.

Yep, the Ravens lost to the Giants and Indianapolis and they lost big - but, they only lost by three to the Steelers on your home field on a Monday night game at the beginning of the season. The Ravens won't be playing the Giants or Indianapolis on December 14th - they'll be playing the Steelers, on the Ravens home turf and the Ravens have made a quantum leap improvement since that Monday night game.

The Ravens will play like they've got nothing to lose and the Steelers will be playing like they've got everything to lose. My money is on the Ravens on December 14th.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

East Butler, PA

#19 Dec 4, 2008
Motorhead Fan wrote:
<quoted text> An overtime field goal at Heinz field against a non-fully formed Ravens offense is all that separates the Steelers and the Ravens from a first place tie. Three points is nothing to hang your hat on especially when there has been so much improvement in the Ravens and so little in the Steelers. Don't get me wrong, I think the Steelers are a tough, quality team - I just haven't seen the quantum leap, the improvement on an order of magnitude by the Steelers that I've seen in the Ravens. Maybe whippin' the tar out of the bengals and the browns isn't impressive (hell, you guys beat them too, so what? Did YOU guys whip the tar out of them?), but, outscoring opponents 80 something to 0 in the fourth quarter of their last 7 or so victories does say something.
Yep, the Ravens lost to the Giants and Indianapolis and they lost big - but, they only lost by three to the Steelers on your home field on a Monday night game at the beginning of the season. The Ravens won't be playing the Giants or Indianapolis on December 14th - they'll be playing the Steelers, on the Ravens home turf and the Ravens have made a quantum leap improvement since that Monday night game.
The Ravens will play like they've got nothing to lose and the Steelers will be playing like they've got everything to lose. My money is on the Ravens on December 14th.
All valid points but it must be pointed out that there are times this season when the ravens defense just implodes and gets the bird-sh!t kicked out of it. The offense is better and I've posted many times they are doing the right thing with flacco and the balanced rushing/passing attack.

Great strides have been taken on O for sure but look where you started...last place. If you have a nickel to your name and you find a nickel on the ground you've increased your net worth 100%...but you still only have 10 cents to your name. lol. The game will be a good one. You guys have to get past washington first. If the defense lays another egg sunday then the steeler ravens game won't mean as much...unless the steelers lay an egg sunday too.

“Steelers Forever”

Since: Dec 07

Cranberry Township PA

#20 Dec 4, 2008
Bob Roberts wrote:
<quoted text>
All valid points but it must be pointed out that there are times this season when the ravens defense just implodes and gets the bird-sh!t kicked out of it. The offense is better and I've posted many times they are doing the right thing with flacco and the balanced rushing/passing attack.
Great strides have been taken on O for sure but look where you started...last place. If you have a nickel to your name and you find a nickel on the ground you've increased your net worth 100%...but you still only have 10 cents to your name. lol. The game will be a good one. You guys have to get past washington first. If the defense lays another egg sunday then the steeler ravens game won't mean as much...unless the steelers lay an egg sunday too.
Very well put Bob. I believe the O is beginning to find itself. I also don't believe the Ravens will be able to run the ball against the Steeler D. The game at Heinz was early in the season and the Steeler D has gotten much better since then. I believe our this yardbird lover's glasses are a little to purple.

STEELERS ROCK along with WDVE!!!

“Lets GO BROWNS”

Since: Sep 08

Jamestown NY

#22 Dec 4, 2008
I hope the Steelers / Ravens game will mean something - that will be an all out smashmouth football game for sure. Pre-playoff game! It would be nice this week to see no-name Dorsey come in and throw for 400 yards against the Titans and knock them down another peg. Spoiler games can be fun even though it doesn't get you much.

Since: Sep 07

Midlothian, Virginia

#23 Dec 4, 2008
O.K., here goes, The Steelers lose to the Eagles 15 - 6 (The Ravens destroyed Philly). The Steelers lose to the Colts 24 - 10. The Steelers beat the Jacksonville Jaguars by 5. The Steelers beat San Diego 11 - 10 and beat the Browns 10 - 6 (The Ravens destroyed the Browns).

Two of the four games lost by the Ravens were blow outs (Giants and Colts - both who beat the Steelers). The other two losses were by one field goal (Steelers and Titans).

I have a tremendous amount of confidence that the Ravens can beat the Steelers on 14 December. We've won 7 of our last 8. We're improving. We aren't making the same mental errors we made when we played the Steelers early this season. I think Hines Ward won't be the factor he's been in games past, at least from a psychological stand point.

The only game that truly concerns me, going down the line, is the Cowboys in Texas Stadium where the Cowboys (and it happens to every team that plays there) don't get penalized all too often regardless of how much holding and pass interference they engage in.

All that said, I respect the Steelers team and I'm looking forward to a game that promises to be very physical and innovative with respect to the play calling.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#24 Dec 4, 2008
Motorhead Fan wrote:
<quoted text>I do have a basis for my opinion.
I believe that the home field advantage works to our favor as it did for Pittsburgh earlier in the season and that particular game was REALLY STINKIN' CLOSE - if you recall, the Steelers won it by a field goal in overtime when our offense was in it's infancy. I believe our offense has evolved into a multi-dimensional threat that can adjust appropriately to the Steelers defense (we smoked the Eagles on both offense and defense). It also stands to reason that the Ravens and the Steelers find a higher gear when they play each other. At this point in the season, it appears the Ravens have more in the tank than the Steelers despite having so many players on the I.R.
The Ravens aren't just hanging on to win their games, they're brutalizing teams. Have a look at time of possession, have a look at scoring in the third and fourth quarter. You get the feeling that the Ravens are looking forward to December 14th and the Steelers just want to leave town alive with their yellow towels in hand.
Yes, the Ravens are on the way up, but, I don't see a similar order of magnitude of improvement in the Steelers. They may not be on their way down, but, they don't appear to have made the quantum leap that the Ravens have made since their last meeting.
Good enough for you?
All fine arguments if you're talking about December 14th. But you suggested not only that the Ravens would win, but that the balance of power had completely shifted to the Ravens and that Steelers wouldn't win another game against them for a very long time. That assertion still sounds like nothing more than homering bravado (something we all indulge in from time to time).
As you say, the Steelers find another gear when they're playing each other, and different teams match up differently against each other, and other x-factors such as injuries and the weather are always in the mix, so I don't put TOO much stock in matching their records and scores against like teams. I almost think you can throw all of it out the window when these two teams suit up.
You mention the improvement of the Ravens O, and you're obviously right, but what people fail to realize is that the Steelers D has been getting better, too, with almost frightening consistency from game to game. They haven't reached their plateau yet.
It's looking like these game is going to mean something serious in terms of the playoffs for both, so it should be a good one.
Rex J Steelman

Slippery Rock, PA

#26 Dec 5, 2008
GHT wrote:
<quoted text>but......the Ravens O is vastly improved since then too. How amazing was that of Flacco to play as good a game as he did in Pittsburgh for his first NFL away game? In Pittsburgh??!! I remember Kyle Boller's first game in Pit. Harsh. I think the 2 have both improved and the game will be just as close as always. Maybe homefield advantage might be a factor here as the first game was?
Very impressive. I've been amazed by that kid all season--nothing seems to rattle him. Hats off to your man Ozzie for seeing things there that no one else did.

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