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If not Orton, how about these guys at quarterback?

There are 35 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 18, 2008, titled If not Orton, how about these guys at quarterback?. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

When deciding whether to commit to Kyle Orton over the long term, the Bears also have to consider what viable alternatives exist if they don't. Here's a thumbnail sketch of the quarterbacks who might fall into ...

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PhillyBearsFan

Newtown Square, PA

#22 Dec 19, 2008
Sorry...shouldn't have included Bulger in the "flashes in the pan" category above. He's been pretty steady, just victimized by bad OL and no receivers the last 2 years.
truth talker

Downers Grove, IL

#23 Dec 19, 2008
Only one word is needed about future Bear QB and that is TEBOW! The kid is a winner and reminds me of Favre when he was younger and McMahon. Will do anything to win and lead a team. To heck with what the experts say about him playing QB in the pros, he will make it. Let Orton play for couple more years, groom Tebow and by 2011 SB winners.
JBS

Anaheim, CA

#24 Dec 19, 2008
PhillyBearsFan wrote:
I don't get all the consternation over Orton. He's only 26, he's started only 31 games, yet he's 20-11 as a starter, and his numbers have steadily improved in each season. His QB rating has gone from 59.7 to 73.9 to 80.1, and his completion % has gone up every year. I think he's definitely got upside, and his college record shows the same upward trend as his experience grows. Folks, playing QB the NFL is tough, and flashes in the pan (Matt Cassell? Derek Anderson? Mark Bulger?) are not necessarily as good as they might appear in one season. Steady progress and improvement is what you want, and if the WR's and OL are upgraded on this team, and if Orton can work on some of the bad habits (staring at his WR's late in the season) he can become a top 30% QB. Don't forget - he was in the top 10 early in the season. I don't think Orton is the problem here, and if they go 10-6, is that reason to toss out your QB who got you there?
So you prefer 10-6 and no playoffs to 14-2 and a Super Bowl appearance, eh? How curious. It's also interesting how Orton's "bad habits" suddenly developed when he stopped playing the Lions every other week and fair-to-good defenses got a look at him on film. It's always odd how that happens... It couldn't be that Orton just isn't as good as you'd like to believe, could it? Nah. He needs another chance. Two more years. Better receivers. A Pro-Bowl O-line. Then you'll see how good Orton is. Blah. Blah. Blah. Whenever anyone said anything remotely like that about Rex, you Orton-heads shouted them down, screaming that Rex needed to make all the players around him better. It was ALL HIS FAULT!! Well, 8-6 through 14 games with big losses in key games throughout the season. The 25th ranked offense. The 22nd best QB in the NFL. That's what you want from a franchise QB? Anyone who thinks Orton is "big upgrade" over Rex is an id.iot.(And for the record, Rex was no great shakes, either.)
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#25 Dec 19, 2008
Otis wrote:
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From the Sun-Times:
"The Bears were tied for third in the NFL for fewest drops with 13 entering the last week of November; they're now tied for 15th with 23. Wide receiver Rashied Davis has seven and tight end Desmond Clark four. The problem has been across the board, as fullback Jason Davis even has one."
With this bunch of bums as receivers, of course Orton looks bad! Orton has overthrown a few, but many of the drops were beautiful passes that the WR/TE etc. bobbled and dropped. Ugh!!
Keep Orton, get some receivers. ps. Dump Grossman!!
yes let grossman go! Orton still sucks at the end of the day lol. He make to many bad mistakes, but the only difference in a good qb and an orton is that he cant make up for them.
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#26 Dec 19, 2008
madbear wrote:
orton = 5 yard passes
orton = sucks
it doesnt matter if we have randy moss, orton cant pass more than 15 yards
lol so true i dont even know why im laughing
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#27 Dec 19, 2008
Neck Beard wrote:
I think you have to give Orton another year or two. Overall, he has played pretty well and this is his first year with a wide open playbook. He has made some mistakes and may not turn out to be Peyton Manning of course, but he has shown that he can be a winner, even with the lack of play making receivers. I think upgrades in the receiving corps are more important than replacing Orton at this time. A high draft pick on a QB is not a bad idea while Orton plays out a 3 year contract.
how about the bears do both. The salary cap gives them plenty of space to buy a wide out oline and qb to compete for starting postion, but we all know what happens when they say there is a competiion lol
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#28 Dec 19, 2008
Mike wrote:
Why are we talking about this? Of all the problems with this team, Orton is NOT a priority. He's played damn well.
Please just sign on and shore up the defense.
our defense is good enough to win with a good offense. It is not orton. I understand the wr suck, but he is putting up the same numbers as our other piece of qb did when we booed him people
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#29 Dec 19, 2008
PhillyBearsFan wrote:
I don't get all the consternation over Orton. He's only 26, he's started only 31 games, yet he's 20-11 as a starter, and his numbers have steadily improved in each season. His QB rating has gone from 59.7 to 73.9 to 80.1, and his completion % has gone up every year. I think he's definitely got upside, and his college record shows the same upward trend as his experience grows. Folks, playing QB the NFL is tough, and flashes in the pan (Matt Cassell? Derek Anderson? Mark Bulger?) are not necessarily as good as they might appear in one season. Steady progress and improvement is what you want, and if the WR's and OL are upgraded on this team, and if Orton can work on some of the bad habits (staring at his WR's late in the season) he can become a top 30% QB. Don't forget - he was in the top 10 early in the season. I don't think Orton is the problem here, and if they go 10-6, is that reason to toss out your QB who got you there?
true football fans know that qb ratings are not good to judge a qb by. Please dont talk completions when you talk about orton. 3 yard passes are still runs in my eyes. He sucks
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#30 Dec 19, 2008
truth talker wrote:
Only one word is needed about future Bear QB and that is TEBOW! The kid is a winner and reminds me of Favre when he was younger and McMahon. Will do anything to win and lead a team. To heck with what the experts say about him playing QB in the pros, he will make it. Let Orton play for couple more years, groom Tebow and by 2011 SB winners.
tebow= rex. duh
Good God Haugh

United States

#31 Dec 19, 2008
And exactly WHY shouldn't the Bears be in a position to offer a chance to start to Chris Simms....or anyone else for that matter?

I used to think you were a good writer, Haugh, but your idiotic Orton homerism has gone beyond tired and has moved to the lunacy category.

Orton isn't any better than Rex, and yet you type day after day until your fingers are cramped excuse after excuse to defend his stupid reads and bad throws all the while making sure Rex stays firmly under the bus that the writers (like you) and the fans threw him under.

While I am a Bears fan I would love nothing more than for Rex to go to another team next year and thrive with the proper team around him...and of course a competent coaching staff.

Meanwhile, we'll be stuck with 'franchise quarterback Kyle' who will lead us to many. many 9-7 seasons.

Super Bowls, here we come......oh wait.....
Tru2DaSox

Schaumburg, IL

#32 Dec 19, 2008
To this day I can't understand why there was such a love and hate thing for Rex with Media/Fans. Rex had his ups and downs just like all the high draft QBs do. Just look at the early yrs of both Manning brothers, Rivers, and others in the past who take few yrs to come through. Grossman did the same at times looking like top 5 QBs and sometimes not. I think if he had the weapons everone talks about here how far could he take us? Too bad its too late to turn back on Rex as it looks out he'll be out next yr to another team who will paly him right. In the mean time enjoy Oarton "the future QB".
JPM

Oak Lawn, IL

#33 Dec 19, 2008
Uhhh, I can't belive J.P. Losman is included in this league. Excuse me? I saw his last game this Sunday, when he said he "wanted to create highlights for others to see" when he's a free agent, and produced nothing but Henry Burris crap. He would drop back to pass...only to get scared and not throw the ball, and eventually panic and fumble, get sacked, or throw an incompletion/interception. It happened ALL GAME. So the above list of quarterbacks automatically lose credibility.
Gello

Dallas, TX

#34 Dec 19, 2008
I agree with ChiMan, starting with ota's have Hanie and Orton compete for the starting spot at QB. Go and try to sign A. Boldin for our #1 receiver and maybe a run stuffing dt, like Haynesworth from Tenn. he's avaliable. Draft some ol in the early rounds to build on.

Since: Aug 08

Nashville, TN

#35 Dec 19, 2008
Matt Cassel and Kerry Collins would be good choices to go with Orton as insurance, it would also make sense for the Bears to draft a QB. Certain teams have Achilles heels and for the Bears it is always QB.

“Let's rock!!”

Since: Oct 07

Aurora, IL

#36 Dec 19, 2008
Here's the link to all the stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition...

Some Bears Forum posters lusted after D. Andersen, he's not doing well at all! Orton is middling, but I still think he'd look a LOT better if the damn WR corps didn't keep dropping their passes!!

I mean, SHEEE-IT! You think some other QB is going to get better production with this team?

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