If not Orton, how about these guys at...

If not Orton, how about these guys at quarterback?

There are 35 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 18, 2008, titled If not Orton, how about these guys at quarterback?. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

When deciding whether to commit to Kyle Orton over the long term, the Bears also have to consider what viable alternatives exist if they don't. Here's a thumbnail sketch of the quarterbacks who might fall into ...

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Da Bearss

United States

#2 Dec 19, 2008
No way are any of these bums an upgrade over Kyle. Cassel is the only one I'd even consider and with him you have to ask, is it the man or the system he plays in?
BearsFan2

Bradenton, FL

#3 Dec 19, 2008
What we need is a guy still in his 20's who has a proven high winning percentage with at least 30 starts under his belt. It would help if he has shown he can QB a team through the play-offs to a Super Bowl or provide a "winning spark" when called upon in relief.

It would be even better if that person has shown he can be among the Top 2 in the NFL in over 100.00 QB rated games in a season, the Top 5 in TD passes over 20 yards in a season, and dare I ask too much that he has been recognized as an NFL Offensive Player of the Month.

If we could find someone like that......but guys like that don't get traded and certainly not cut.

Except if they play for the Bears.
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#4 Dec 19, 2008
i just want the organization to admit that we are bad. We need to rebuild and draft as many qbs as possible lol. Gruden theory of QBs. I dont want orton. i want a quaterback. Once we admit our mistake since the superbowl, the fans will allow rebuilding
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#5 Dec 19, 2008
BearsFan2 wrote:
What we need is a guy still in his 20's who has a proven high winning percentage with at least 30 starts under his belt. It would help if he has shown he can QB a team through the play-offs to a Super Bowl or provide a "winning spark" when called upon in relief.
It would be even better if that person has shown he can be among the Top 2 in the NFL in over 100.00 QB rated games in a season, the Top 5 in TD passes over 20 yards in a season, and dare I ask too much that he has been recognized as an NFL Offensive Player of the Month.
If we could find someone like that......but guys like that don't get traded and certainly not cut.
Except if they play for the Bears.
rex lol
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#6 Dec 19, 2008
Da Bearss wrote:
No way are any of these bums an upgrade over Kyle. Cassel is the only one I'd even consider and with him you have to ask, is it the man or the system he plays in?
yes they are lol
you are hype on some orton
dont protect him. If you do that then the orgaizaiton will make a mockery of us again and agian
Mike from Platte City

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#7 Dec 19, 2008
The onlt one on the list I'd consider is Cassel. The kid is young enough and has had some 400+ yard games. He also has been backup to one of the better QB's in the NFL.

Here's the problem: Any QB on a team that doesn't protect the QB could fail. Add to this the fact that the receivers continously drop perfect passes, and even Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would look like subpar QB's.

I don't have the answer.

“Let's rock!!”

Since: Oct 07

Aurora, IL

#8 Dec 19, 2008
the truth is out there wrote:
i just want the organization to admit that we are bad. We need to rebuild and draft as many qbs as possible ****. Gruden theory of QBs. I dont want orton. i want a quaterback. Once we admit our mistake since the superbowl, the fans will allow rebuilding
From the Sun-Times:

"The Bears were tied for third in the NFL for fewest drops with 13 entering the last week of November; they're now tied for 15th with 23. Wide receiver Rashied Davis has seven and tight end Desmond Clark four. The problem has been across the board, as fullback Jason Davis even has one."

With this bunch of bums as receivers, of course Orton looks bad! Orton has overthrown a few, but many of the drops were beautiful passes that the WR/TE etc. bobbled and dropped. Ugh!!

Keep Orton, get some receivers. ps. Dump Grossman!!
Chris D

Biên Ḥa, Vietnam

#9 Dec 19, 2008
I would not mind seeing Orton for next year -- but let's draft a QB in the first two rounds in the one of the next two years. However, even better, I would love to see McNabb as the Bears QB and then let them look to draft a QB in the first two rounds in one of the next two drafts. McNabb is definitely an upgrade and will have 2-3 more years of good production while we find a long term solution. But the Bears need to commit (high draft pick) to finding that QB of the future.
mannytress

Rhinelander, WI

#10 Dec 19, 2008
Haugh,
step outside, face into the wind and open your fly.....
This is about the same chance that the Bears will do anything to change their QB situation, except they usually get wet.
Stephen

Houston, TX

#11 Dec 19, 2008
Orton may still end up being a good QB. I would give him another shot. However, I would love the idea of getting McNabb. I don't know why everyone thinks he is past his prime. The guy is only 32! That is not old for a QB! Look around the league at guys his age or older: Warner, Favre, Manning, Collins, Frerotte, Delhomme, Hasselbeck, Pennington, etc...

McNabb still has 4-5 good years left at least.
K20A2_S

Houston, TX

#12 Dec 19, 2008
Stephen wrote:
Orton may still end up being a good QB. I would give him another shot. However, I would love the idea of getting McNabb. I don't know why everyone thinks he is past his prime. The guy is only 32! That is not old for a QB! Look around the league at guys his age or older: Warner, Favre, Manning, Collins, Frerotte, Delhomme, Hasselbeck, Pennington, etc...
McNabb still has 4-5 good years left at least.
You took my thoughts exactly.....

I'd do the Cassel trade only if we get his offensive coordinator also......
madbear

Cabo San Lucas, Mexico

#13 Dec 19, 2008
orton = 5 yard passes

orton = sucks

it doesnt matter if we have randy moss, orton cant pass more than 15 yards
still draft one

United States

#14 Dec 19, 2008
Face it; Da Bears will keep Orton for next season cuz he's cheap. So they might as well spend their money on wide recievers and more offensive line!! Especially the O-line cuz that can help our run game and any QB in our future!
Neck Beard

Tinley Park, IL

#15 Dec 19, 2008
I think you have to give Orton another year or two. Overall, he has played pretty well and this is his first year with a wide open playbook. He has made some mistakes and may not turn out to be Peyton Manning of course, but he has shown that he can be a winner, even with the lack of play making receivers. I think upgrades in the receiving corps are more important than replacing Orton at this time. A high draft pick on a QB is not a bad idea while Orton plays out a 3 year contract.
NFL Expert

Michigan City, IN

#16 Dec 19, 2008
There is just no way this time can be super winners with Orton. He does his best but he is not a great QB. We need a great QB if we want a great team. These losers will go no where no how no way. I know. I predict with certainty they lose all the remaining games. It is obvious.
chi-man

Lethbridge, Canada

#17 Dec 19, 2008
Look ...just keep Orton....he knows the system and will be more consistant next year......no one seems to know this, but, Hanie, is a star in-waiting.....pick a qb in the draft, later rounds and concentrate on line-men......and a number one reciever.
Mike

Chicago, IL

#18 Dec 19, 2008
Why are we talking about this? Of all the problems with this team, Orton is NOT a priority. He's played damn well.

Please just sign on and shore up the defense.
34rocks

AOL

#19 Dec 19, 2008
face it,without wr's that can catch a pass and an O-line that dominates their turf-we will have another year like this,granted KO needs to throw a deep ball but you need wr's to create a threat cause they can catch it and time to let them get downfield. get wideouts and O-line upgrades then you will see a good offense esp. with Forte! he needs a good backup too!
1bearsfan

United States

#20 Dec 19, 2008
chi-man wrote:
Look ...just keep Orton....he knows the system and will be more consistant next year......no one seems to know this, but, Hanie, is a star in-waiting.....pick a qb in the draft, later rounds and concentrate on line-men......and a number one reciever.
I agree with you. We have Orton under contract for 1 more year.So have Orton start next year with Hanie at the #2 spot & let Rex leave. That will give Hanie 2 years on the bench to learn. But have them batttle for the starter spot next year.That will make Both Q.b's play better. Draft a Q.B in the later rounds. We need a #1 receiver either with our High pick or via free agency. Hester plus a #1 receiver will help us big time. I would like to see sure handed Earl Bennett in there as a 3rd receiver as well. Trade Rashied Davis,butter fingers.We will finally have Williams on the O-line next year. But we should draft 1 or 2 more O-lineman. We could use a good Free safety as well. I would like to see us go after a Bad Asss D-lineman. dont re sign Ogunleye. Get a guy who can register double digit sacks consistently. That will help our front 4 get more pressure. Last we should look to replace Vasher. Maybe Graham if he improves more,I dont know. Lets trash the Packers Mon Night!! Take care! BEAR DOWN!! GO BEARS!! WE BELIEVE!!
PhillyBearsFan

Newtown Square, PA

#21 Dec 19, 2008
I don't get all the consternation over Orton. He's only 26, he's started only 31 games, yet he's 20-11 as a starter, and his numbers have steadily improved in each season. His QB rating has gone from 59.7 to 73.9 to 80.1, and his completion % has gone up every year. I think he's definitely got upside, and his college record shows the same upward trend as his experience grows. Folks, playing QB the NFL is tough, and flashes in the pan (Matt Cassell? Derek Anderson? Mark Bulger?) are not necessarily as good as they might appear in one season. Steady progress and improvement is what you want, and if the WR's and OL are upgraded on this team, and if Orton can work on some of the bad habits (staring at his WR's late in the season) he can become a top 30% QB. Don't forget - he was in the top 10 early in the season. I don't think Orton is the problem here, and if they go 10-6, is that reason to toss out your QB who got you there?

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