Trade Brady? Gulp!

Trade Brady? Gulp!

There are 38 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Nov 25, 2008, titled Trade Brady? Gulp!. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Thinking unthinkable thoughts this Thanksgiving week: Would the Patriots be better off signing Matt Cassel to a long-term deal and exploring the market for Tom Brady's services? I know, I know.

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MikeK

Philippines

#1 Nov 25, 2008
Understand your logic, but with Cassell being a free agent at the end of the year, the Pats would not save much money with the $10-$15mil they'd have to offer Cassell.

Cassell has worked well in the Pats' offense that he's understudied for 4 years and with a pretty talented group of receivers (Moss, Welker, Faulk, Watson) and fairly strong o-line. Not saying it's easy, but he has some advantages.

Brady is not old by QB standards and certainly not as old as Montana was when he was traded. Plus Young was a proven stud. Cassell is good, but has yet to prove himself to be able to maintain this quality of play over a full season and into the play-offs.

Billy Volek is also on the list of QBs with back-to-back 400yd passing games. Where is he now?

Bottom line: way too early to write-off Brady. Whoever signs Cassell next year will get a good NFL QB thanks to the time he has spent in NE with Brady, Belichick and McDaniel.
Jimiidy Crickets

San Antonio, TX

#2 Nov 25, 2008
Okay, I'm not sure what in the world, i mean what in the WORLD PEOPLE are thinking! Brady just came off not only his best, but the number one offensive best performace for any QB in the history of the NFL and now "fans" are talking tradeing him because of an injury he suffered. Brady may not be the same when he comes back, but then again, and chances are pretty likely that he will. He has already proven to be, if not top 3, the best NFL QB ever to play this game. If his knee heals back to 100 percent or close to it, he will still have atleast 5 more pro bowl calendar years. Let's stop the comparisons now. Cassel is becoming good, I wouldn't by any measure crown him top 3 in the afc like that idiot on the radio did.

To make an analogy on the difference between when Brady took over and Matt took over it would be something like this: Tom got into a broken down beat up dodge, and drove it to a superbowl victory! With that victory, this Dodge was able to buy new parts, go through a nearly COMPLETE overhaul until it wasn't a dodge no more. Now this thing Tom is driving is a Ferarri last year and this. Now Matt took over the drivers seat in this well oiled Ferarri, but he isn't used to such a fast vehicle, so what happens? He doesn't know how to handle it. After a few weeks the handling is finally coming to him tho which is good to see.

So you see, if Matt goes to another team, unless they have the parts, he isn't going to be posting these 400 plus yards throwing any longer. Brady was doing this with a receiving core during his 1st year that could be graded as a c at best. Matt has an A+ core around him. BIG difference. Anyways to end this, I think they will just franchise cassel for next year. See how Brady feels, and if all is well next year. They will most likely deal him at some point.

Sorry for the way the paragraph looks, I ain't going to reread this and spell check this for this site, it takes too much time.
Jimiidy Crickets

San Antonio, TX

#3 Nov 25, 2008
I mean deal Cassel is Brady is fine, and start grooming their new pick who didn't look to bad in the preseason.
LoWeLL 4 LifE

Braintree, MA

#4 Nov 25, 2008
Tom Brady is being exposed for what I always said he was: a system QB, nothing more.
joey

Hudson, NH

#5 Nov 25, 2008
LoWeLL 4 LifE wrote:
Tom Brady is being exposed for what I always said he was: a system QB, nothing more.
Thats hogwash .
manny

Brampton, Canada

#6 Nov 25, 2008
altough matt is playing well, his skills are no where near tom brady's. i am a pats fan and there is no other qb i would like to see next year in a pats uniform other than brady. Another thing you have to take into account is that this team is alot better than it was in the past when the pats won its 3 super bowl titles. The pats record is 7-4 but it should be better than that because they have one of the easiest schedules in the league.
Tony

Belmont, MA

#7 Nov 25, 2008
It's Belichik's call. If he thinks Tom can come back Cassell's gone. I mean, Tom has proved himself winning 3 SBs and being within a minute of winning a fourth. Yes Cassell's got a bright future but let's wait at least 5 more games to see if he can first, get this team into the playoffs and then if he does how far can he take them. Go Pats!
jimmyH

Raynham, MA

#8 Nov 25, 2008
you're DUMB! the jets and dolphins have no defense whatsoever. you should stop writing articles about sports and pick up a new hobby/career
SJones from Dracut

Dracut, MA

#9 Nov 25, 2008
Anyone who even thinks Cassels and Brady are even remotely close in talent needs to cancel his subscription to the NFL's Sunday ticket and get back on his/her medicine. The guy is slow with his reads and has trouble throwing over 8 yards. Belichik's a genious and has been able to build some plays around the kid and he's come through but that's about it. Belichik is going to need to stay 1 step ahead of the opponent's d-coordinators because it won't take them long to figure out what's working for Cassels now and defend it.
Tommy DeChico

Windsor, CT

#10 Nov 25, 2008
youz peeple are diiots if u think cassel is gooder than brady
The Patriot

Quincy, MA

#11 Nov 26, 2008
MikeK wrote:
Understand your logic, but with Cassell being a free agent at the end of the year, the Pats would not save much money with the $10-$15mil they'd have to offer Cassell.
Cassell has worked well in the Pats' offense that he's understudied for 4 years and with a pretty talented group of receivers (Moss, Welker, Faulk, Watson) and fairly strong o-line. Not saying it's easy, but he has some advantages.
Brady is not old by QB standards and certainly not as old as Montana was when he was traded. Plus Young was a proven stud. Cassell is good, but has yet to prove himself to be able to maintain this quality of play over a full season and into the play-offs.
Billy Volek is also on the list of QBs with back-to-back 400yd passing games. Where is he now?
Bottom line: way too early to write-off Brady. Whoever signs Cassell next year will get a good NFL QB thanks to the time he has spent in NE with Brady, Belichick and McDaniel.
Pretty much on target here, let me add we are also in a weak division with very strong offense players. We may only have one loss with Brady right now.
Teddy P

AOL

#12 Nov 26, 2008
jimmyH wrote:
you're DUMB! the jets and dolphins have no defense whatsoever. you should stop writing articles about sports and pick up a new hobby/career
The Jets are tied for 11th in the league in scoring defense, giving up 21.3 points per game. Cassel & The Pats put up 31 against them.

The Dolphins are 16th in the league in scoring defense, giving up 22.3 points per game. Cassel and the Pats scored 48 against them.

I'll agree I'm dumb, but those middle of the road defenses would have ranked even higher if not for all those points Cassel put up against them.
Stringer Bell

Brighton, MA

#13 Nov 26, 2008
I know you're probably just trying to stir up discussion, because no way you believe that the Pats should trade Tom Brady. In the Montana example you provided, he was entering the twilight of his career. Steve Young was an established QB (not to mention a future HOF). Let's not anoint Cassel as the Next Big Thing, especially since Tom Brady is coming off arguably the best year a QB has ever had. This isn't the 1980s. ACL tears aren't as career-threating. Stick with the proven gun. The one with three rings.
fan of football

Holland, MI

#14 Nov 26, 2008
trade brady? oh i get it a early april fool's joke. ha. ha. have a great thanksgiving and don't sell the team from methuen short.
Teddy P

AOL

#15 Nov 26, 2008
Stringer Bell wrote:
I know you're probably just trying to stir up discussion, because no way you believe that the Pats should trade Tom Brady. In the Montana example you provided, he was entering the twilight of his career. Steve Young was an established QB (not to mention a future HOF). Let's not anoint Cassel as the Next Big Thing, especially since Tom Brady is coming off arguably the best year a QB has ever had. This isn't the 1980s. ACL tears aren't as career-threating. Stick with the proven gun. The one with three rings.
Would I do it? Not right now. Would I explore all options? Of course.

And if you don't think the guy who said goodbye to Ty Law, Willie McGinest, Adam Vinatieri and countless others with 3 Super Bowl rings would do the same if he believes the move will make his team better, you might be in for a shock.
Teddy P

AOL

#16 Nov 26, 2008
fan of football wrote:
trade brady? oh i get it a early april fool's joke. ha. ha. have a great thanksgiving and don't sell the team from methuen short.
Not selling Methuen short. They've had a nice season. This Dracut team is special, though. No shame in losing to them....LOL

You have a great Thanksgiving, too!
Sacrafyc

United States

#18 Nov 26, 2008
Jimiidy Crickets wrote:
Okay, I'm not sure what in the world, i mean what in the WORLD PEOPLE are thinking! Brady just came off not only his best, but the number one offensive best performace for any QB in the history of the NFL and now "fans" are talking tradeing him because of an injury he suffered. Brady may not be the same when he comes back, but then again, and chances are pretty likely that he will. He has already proven to be, if not top 3, the best NFL QB ever to play this game. If his knee heals back to 100 percent or close to it, he will still have atleast 5 more pro bowl calendar years. Let's stop the comparisons now. Cassel is becoming good, I wouldn't by any measure crown him top 3 in the afc like that idiot on the radio did.
To make an analogy on the difference between when Brady took over and Matt took over it would be something like this: Tom got into a broken down beat up dodge, and drove it to a superbowl victory! With that victory, this Dodge was able to buy new parts, go through a nearly COMPLETE overhaul until it wasn't a dodge no more. Now this thing Tom is driving is a Ferarri last year and this. Now Matt took over the drivers seat in this well oiled Ferarri, but he isn't used to such a fast vehicle, so what happens? He doesn't know how to handle it. After a few weeks the handling is finally coming to him tho which is good to see.
So you see, if Matt goes to another team, unless they have the parts, he isn't going to be posting these 400 plus yards throwing any longer. Brady was doing this with a receiving core during his 1st year that could be graded as a c at best. Matt has an A+ core around him. BIG difference. Anyways to end this, I think they will just franchise cassel for next year. See how Brady feels, and if all is well next year. They will most likely deal him at some point.
Sorry for the way the paragraph looks, I ain't going to reread this and spell check this for this site, it takes too much time.
well said...couldn't have said it better myself. and to Lowell 4 Life, You obviously have no idea about football if you think Ton Brady is a system player...but let me guess you think Eli manning is good right???? Pathetic
LoWeLL 4 LifE

Braintree, MA

#19 Nov 26, 2008
Sacrafyc wrote:
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well said...couldn't have said it better myself. and to Lowell 4 Life, You obviously have no idea about football if you think Ton Brady is a system player...but let me guess you think Eli manning is good right???? Pathetic
Eli showed Brady,and the rest of the country who the better QB was last year.Eli handed Brady his a$$ in the Super Bowl!!!
Derek

Buffalo, NY

#20 Nov 26, 2008
jimmyH wrote:
you're DUMB! the jets and dolphins have no defense whatsoever. you should stop writing articles about sports and pick up a new hobby/career
What are you talking about?

The Jets have one of the best defenses in the league!

Are you even a football fan, cause if you are, you know nothing about sports apparently.
Voice of Reason

Chelmsford, MA

#21 Nov 26, 2008
You were right about one thing: You are an idiot.

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